The public opinion on India's suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty is strongly divided, primarily along national lines. Indian commenters largely support the suspension, viewing it as a justified response to Pakistan's harboring of terrorists and prioritizing India's own agricultural needs. Many argue that the treaty unfairly benefits Pakistan. Conversely, Pakistani commenters express significant frustration with their government's management of water resources, highlighting mismanagement and corruption. There are notable concerns about the potential humanitarian and ecological impact of the suspension, with fears of increased geopolitical tensions and possible retaliatory actions.

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stuXn3tV2

Is it just me or coalition or minority governments are more aggressive in their response to terrorism ? 

Even atal bihari vajpayee had a minority coalition when kargil war happened 

And even now , BJP is more aggressive now than in 2019 and 2014

CartographerOwn3656

With all due respect its nothing just a Publicity Stunned By Government Of India everone 
should study indus water treaty it can't be broken until both parties agree Depositary of this treaty is world bank its not a tap of water which someone can turn on and off

FunctionFew1561

While treaty has been suspended. Actual water is still not diverted out stopped. For that we need dams. This is just diplomacy.

neon5k

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What does this mean? India doesn't even have the infrastructure on our side to stop the flow of water, like this article is making it out to be

abhiSamjhe

James Wilson on Twitter:

"The Indus water will continue to flow due to gravity to Pakistan, since India has no storage structures on its tributaries Jhelum, Indus and Chenab to prevent the flow to downstream.  

In nutshell, freezing a treaty doesn't alter gravity flow."

I_am_myne

I think problem for Pakistan will not really show up immediately, because infrastructure to make any significant diversions do not exist on the Indus. They do exist on the other rivers however. 

 What may happen in the near term is that during the dry periods (inbetween monsoons) India may affect the predictability of the Indus by releasing water late which can severely affect the kharif crop. In addition India no longer needs to share flow data with Pakistan again making predictability a problem for their agriculture. 

Internally in Pakistan there are already significant tensions between the provinces about water rights. Principally between Sindh and Punjab. And interruption will hit Sindh hardest, as Punjab is the Pak fauj's heartland, and they will restrict the flow downriver. This will make the sindhis quite upset, and may even result in an insurgency.

Schwifty234

Folks, first of all India has been building a collection of inter-connected dams across the lower (eastern) three rivers to throttle water flow very well. 


Per the treaty we can take 100 percent of water, but till like 2015, things were moving too slow.




Since 2015 till 2023 or so, a lot of dams to do this were built and after the recent BHP dam setback it slowed down again.


India can deny Pakistan water in low flow months in chenab since 2023. 


In late summer it is not possible to stop water.


However delaying water supply by 10 days can have significant impact on crop plantation in Pakistan.


Another thing we are able to do is flush the silting. This will dump all water overnight in high flow months, desilting the dams for next seasons.


Through these knobs, if used effectively, Pakistan will feel the pain within 6 months or one crop season.


Already wheat produce is expected to be lower in 2025.

Due-Midnight1600

This is unfortunately a very dangerous game to play. When China cuts us off from the Brahmaputra, no one will come to our aid

paranoidpixel

If the water doesn't flow won't it flood parts of India? 

I have no idea about the Indus but damming waters leads to floods

AajBahutKhushHogaTum

I had a professor many years ago say at some point nations will go to war over water. Here we are.

milelongpipe

Pakistan is kinda royally cornered - if they do more terrorist attacks, it will bite them in the ass. 


If they attack dams on the river , it's an act of war . 


If they don't do anything, they will perish slowly. 


If they finally decide to do something, they will kill their biggest power - terrorism. 

This will be the casus belli for a great war between India and Pakistan

SignificanceNo7287

Wait, I’ve seen this one before…allow terrorists to operate from your country or sponsor them directly then act the aggrieved party when the place the terrorists attacked responds

icenoid

Pakistan has been funding terrorism with loans. Lately Pakistan sent terrorist into India to kill 26 Hindus. Despite hatred between Pakistan Shia and Sunnis and even though they have their own tribulations, Pakistan continues to find terrorism.

PatientGazelle1173

Pakistan can't expect water to flow toward them if they continue wanting the blood of innocent people to flow in the streets of India.

PlantTreesEveryday

World news is often just a collection of the worst take. If the world was run by you lot, nukes would have been dropped on every city in the world 10 times over. Seriously lack the ability to think beyond retaliation. Stupid people.

KeithCGlynn

PoK should be on the table while discussing Indus water treaty. Nothing else. Terrorism can be managed by bombing their bases

goshdagny

The not so funny part about this is that China is doing something similar to India with the Brahmaputra river. The river originates in Tibet (that’s another whole issue) and is a major source of water for a large swath of northeastern India. China just approved the largest dam in the world to be built on the river and reroute the waters, which will be devastating for the region downstream. Bottom line, this region will be seeing  an increase of water-related conflicts in the coming years.

squintamongdablind

flammablepatchouli

Pak has fallen on hard times, did this all start with them harboring bin laden? Getting strong armed by India and a series of bad deals with China.

isawabighoot

Just to clear up some misinformation here. India can’t just cut off water to Pakistan like that. The Indus Waters Treaty was signed in 1960 and it’s backed by the World Bank. It legally binds both countries. India gets the eastern rivers (Ravi, Beas, Sutlej), while Pakistan gets the western ones (Indus, Chenab, Jhelum). India is only allowed to use the western rivers for things like run-of-the-river hydro projects, which don’t store or divert significant water.

Even if India wanted to reduce water flow, it would take years and billions to build the kind of infrastructure needed. These projects aren’t quick or easy, especially in the mountainous terrain. And any real diversion would face massive legal challenges, not to mention international backlash.

If India actually went ahead and tried to block or significantly reduce Pakistan’s water, it would be seen as a human rights issue. That water supports around 80% of Pakistan’s agriculture. The global community wouldn’t stay silent. It’s not just politics anymore, it would affect millions of lives.

So yeah, tensions may be rising and statements may sound strong, but in reality, weaponising water isn’t something that can be done easily or without serious consequences.

caliberon1

I don’t think people realize that by doing this India sets a precedent for china to do the same to them with their yarlung zangbo dam, once it finishes construction

Bored_Aviator

Sorry state of affairs with the way Reuters and Al Jazeera have done "journalism" on India Pak issues. I can understand indian media being heavily biased in the opposite direction with their silly "entertainment first" news but this amount of shithousery from international news sites? 

RationalPsycho42

As a gesture of goodwill, India agreed to give Pakistan 80% of the water under the IWT a deal many consider unfair. Despite wars &amp; provocations, India has consistently honored that treaty. So why is it unreasonable to now ask for a more balanced share, especially when India has a significantly larger population to support?

IamAdvikaaa

Blood and water will not flow together, stop the terrorism get the water

India should just donate a stable government to Pakistan. I think they need that more than water

smackythefrog

Conjaybro

No country is obligated to feed its enemies.  Pakistan is at fault for causing this situation with their attacks against India.

The-M0untain

Won't the monsoons make this impossible?  I don't know if the rivers at play are affected by them or not.

beached

They don’t need water 💧 

They are interested in rivers of honey 🍯.

shoppingdiscussions

Water wars have been coming for decades. Climate change will only accelerate it. 


  Mass cheap energy and desalination plants will help some areas survive, but many are gping to die.

UnionGuyCanada

KGN-Tian-CAi

nateguo

This will be a humanitarian and ecological disaster. 

DentistCertain3897

brickyardjimmy

JKlerk

Ah the water wars….we’ve been expecting you my friend (I know they started a while back).

realized_loss

What will happen on a bigger scale in the future: various countries will have water shortages and become unliveable, sparking mass migrations and civil unrest globally.

Water Wars are coming.

This may be a bad precedent to set for us, what you do to others you can’t cry when others do the same to you.

Edit: Fellow Redditors - do you know there is another river in our country called the Brahmaputra - we are downstream and our lovely neighbours can block that water because they are allied with the military state on the left.

Sorry-Water-8530

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The government also called an all party-meeting for tomorrow. 

Defense minister and home minister to speak and address.

Griffindor-69

The all party meeting looks like serious shit.

arghyaghosh0104

Here are 5 major announcements made by the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA):

**Suspension of Indus Waters Cooperation**: India has suspended the Indus Waters Treaty, under which 39 billion cubic meters of water from the Indus River system flows from India into Pakistan annually. The treaty, which governs the sharing of river waters between the two countries, has long been considered a symbol of cooperation even amid years-long conflict.

**Closure of Attari-Wagah Border**: The iconic Attari-Wagah land crossing, a critical point for trade and people-to-people contact between India and Pakistan, has been shut down with immediate effect.

**Ban on Pakistani Nationals Entering India**: The entry of Pakistani citizens into India has been suspended indefinitely. This includes both visa services and cross-border travel permits.

**Expulsion of Military Advisors**: All military advisors posted at the Pakistan High Commission in New Delhi have been expelled, signalling a downgrade in military-to-military diplomatic engagement.

**Reduction of High Commission Staff Strength**: India has asked Pakistan to reduce its diplomatic presence in New Delhi to a skeletal staff of 30, effectively slashing the mission's current operating capacity of 55

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Knight-Peace

If terrorists are not held accountable, they will attack again because they know they can get away with it.

As India is the upper riparian country, it had all the cards, and Pakistan depends on the Indus Valley Basin for a majority of its domestic needs. The treaty was not at all favorable to India, but the then Prime Minister Nehru went ahead with it, thinking that it would help foster some cooperation with Pakistan. Obviously, that never happened. India and Pakistan have gone to war four times after it, along with multiple skirmishes over the decades, but India has upheld its part of the deal throughout.


In 2019, after the Pulwama terror attack, India, which was using only 14% of its mandated 20%, started using the full 20% of its own share, which Pakistan didn’t like. Now, there are talks of suspending the treaty entirely. 


The Indus Water Treaty does not have an exit clause as it was meant to last indefinitely. Generally, India has a good reputation for honoring its treaties, but I wonder on what basis it could get out of this one. Without an exit clause, it’s difficult, but following the maxim rebus sic stantibus, a party may no longer be bound by a contract if there has been a fundamental change in the circumstances that existed at the time it was signed, though the claim is tenuous. Or by mutual consent of both countries, though i don't see that happening. 


Though this is an existential threat to Pakistan, realistically India cannot do much to divert much of the water immediately. It would take 10-15 years to do that. 

Affectionate_Bee6432

This should have been taken long back. Good that the government has paused the treaty. 
In reality i think it would take years to build dams and to divert flow, but India should not back down and should keep it as is.

saw_nick

Was about to post the story!

Glad you did it first!

It's a very substantial development as Indus water treaty is a major pact between the two countries that hadn't been touched.

Pakistan is a failed military state masquerading as an 'Ally to the west Democratic nation'. Situations are certainly starting to stirr up. Water is a very precious commodity in Pakistan owing to the extensive irrigation policies from British Era till now.

I think we may see further rising in tensions between these two states, with this being the accelerator.

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Hrit33

I wonder if this is just posturing or will they actually stop the water to Pakistan?

Shubh_K30

armchairphilosipher

is there a way to verify that India will actually stop or divert water flow to Pakistan ? 

current suspension means basically no data sharing, no 'obligation' to share the water under the treaty.


Asking because if they actually do what they say, we should see Pakistan crying to China and potentially resulting in upstream water from China getting siphoned.

theenigma017

&gt;India has suspended the Indus Waters Treaty, under which 39 billion cubic meters of water from the Indus River system flows from India annually.

It's really shocking that we're at this point. Truly... It's just so sad to see what's happened, to be honest. I mean, the fact that the Indus Waters Treaty, which has been a symbol of cooperation for so long, has had to be suspended... well, it just shows how grave the situation is. It's a necessary move, of course, protecting our citizens is paramount, and it's incredibly concerning how this has unfolded. A lot of us are just praying for peace and safety now. I hope things improve quickly.

Tremenda-Carucha

That’s it? Israel sent Palestine back to Stone Age when they attacked civilians

Minute_Tea3754

All party meeting called. RIP PAK (1947-2025)

Murky_Code_

another exciting step on the way to global collapse, war and devastation.

this time, we'll get to watch it all live, wearing our favorite team's colors.

seattle_lib

ArtNo6305

The indus water, ik it's a dumb question but how would india stop it suddenly? Like the treaty had restricted india on building dams though and even if india starts building it would take months and year.

I am genuinely curious because I don't think it will affect them overnight but surely it would affect Pakistan in later.

( pleasw don't downvote me I am just a curious person so yeah I would appreciate your reply 😭😭)

Gullible_Ad_1395

Bearish on pakistan long term. They’re gonna get ecologically decimated slowly over the course of decades.

Western_Context8987

Wow yet another war. The world really can’t get a break huh.

kingOofgames

Extra-Beginning-5927

I can't imagine the consequences of India's attack on Pakistan. To be honest, the various problems exposed by the Indian army are really speechless. Submarines were detonated in their own ports, military aircraft crashed regularly, and the logistics system was poor and corrupt. Such an army has almost no combat effectiveness. Why can't Indians live in peace with their neighbors? You have terrible relations with almost all your neighbors, and your military capabilities are not enough to deter them. Can you solve all this in a peaceful way? China is watching all this, please don't act rashly.

One-Conflict2062

Is there any evidence Pakistan was behind the attack? Kashmir is a delicate place on the best of days, it could well have been a domestic Islamist group.

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