Public sentiment is primarily negative towards Trump's recent comments and threats regarding New York City, with many expressing fear and disapproval of his perceived authoritarianism. Comments reveal frustration over his political maneuvers, leading to increased support for local candidate Zohran Mamdani as a viable alternative. The public is concerned about the implications of Trump's actions on democracy and local governance, with numerous calls for accountability and resistance against authoritarian tendencies.

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They haven’t even voted for mayor and they going this hard on him lol they scared big time

SignalTrip1504

Umm Taxes from NY fund red states. Go on cut off 100 billion if it’s means they get to keep their own taxes. NY will be up billions of dollars. No republican government can threaten NY because this is where the money is made.

NewEstablishment9028

"Doesn't behave?"    
What are you going to do? Take away his phone for a week &amp; send him to bed without dinner?

rammaam

&gt;denies Trump’s accusation that he is communist while reaffirming push to tax wealthy

Ah yes, because as we all know, the one and only definition of communism is making rich people pay a regular amount of taxes.

Fun_Effective6846

Trump will be dead by the time NYC receives $100 billion from the feds. They get about 7 a year.

According_Ad7895

Hes goinf to cut the money anyway.  Hes just looking for an excuse.

AdhesivenessFun2060

Hong Kong vibes.

A paranoid tyrant ready to choke functional financial organs if they don't bend the knee.

Jubjars

If your president… (insert news headline here) …you might be living in a dictatorship.

JessKicks

Nothing to see here, just a white man with a known history of racism, telling a non-white man "how to behave" and threatening punishment.

Helldiver-xzoen

Link to the article: [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/29/trump-zohran-mamdani-nyc-funds](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/29/trump-zohran-mamdani-nyc-funds)

marksaun_666

Mamdani should just withhold any federal taxes from the govt.

pdm0713

Or maybe the state find's a way to circumvent the system of having to pay federal taxes, considering they pay 320.1 billion dollars a year in federal taxes.

[deleted]

I'd say this feels deeply illegal, influencing a state election with blackmail, but breaking the law is the norm for Trump.

Realistic_Let3239

BZNHotwife

Trump threatens everyone - because he is scared of everyone!!

scarytree1

C4dfael

This is voter tampering in plain sight. Resist.

No-Bumblebee-4920

The petulant child who "needs to behave" is the moron in the White House.

ravrocker

So what you’re saying is Trump wants him to win.

opi098514

Working for the people? Fuck that guy, he wants to help poor people. Man he is just the worst! That’s MAGA.

AmbidextrousCard

# Let me guess on the timeline….

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catheterhero

Democracy in 2025 dies in a whisper: "this too shall pass."  
Get off your ass, make noise, THIS IS NOT NORMAL.

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DeltaBot

That danger is so well known that we developed a countermeasure centuries ago: the Secret Ballot. Your name and your vote are not associated with each other in the voting record, so the government can't do this without dramatically overhauling the voting process.

Kerostasis

Info: what evidence are you looking for. In your own post you acknowledge that this hasn't actually happened before. 

In your example of the New York election I don't see what the danger to the voters are: the person trump threatened was a politician, not a group of voters.

Therabidmonkey

I mean, the left has collectively villianized and dehumanized the right already with little political violence  coming from it. I dont see how a drastic change would come from reversing the roles here. 




Besides, most americans arent loony tunes over politics and will just treat midterms like any other.  There will be crazies, on both sides, but they'll get squashed quickly by police/citizens most likely.

IEATASSETS

I won’t try and change your mind…I just think you are out of touch with reality. Nobody is coming for democrats. Nobody is infringing your rights. Nothing has been taken from you. You’re fine…you’ll continue to be fine. Stop.

BGNorloon

Friend they don't need to use our voter registration data to decide we are a threat. We've boldly shouted all over social media that we are not friends to the regime.

And we shouldn't change that behavior. The more noise we make the more practically impossible it is to persecute us or target us in any way. Its safety in numbers. So identify as a threat. Its the American way 🫡

NotYourThrowaway17

I'm not going to bother talking about legal and institutional mechanics that might stop this scenario from happening (many people on reddit, I imagine yourself included, already think that that won't stop him, a not unreasonable fear).

I'm instead going to convince through the power of math.

Consider: there are (as of last year) 24 million registered Democrats in the country.

Let's say Trump does what we all fear and starts using ICE as his personal militia.  ICE has about 20,000 TOTAL personnel.  They're outnumbered 1200 to 1.

Let's give Trump some handicaps.  "ICE now has a bigger budget than the Marine Corps!"  Okay, let's magically pump up ICE to the size of the Marines.  That's 170,000 personnel.  Still outnumbered 140 to 1.

Let's give him more handicaps.  "Trump will just declare martial law and turn the military on Americans!"  Okay, let's say Trump nationalizes every states' National Guard.  He recalls all personnel from every base and fleet around the world back home, activates every branch's reserves and sics them on registered Democrats.  That's about 2.1 million personnel.  STILL outnumbered 10 to 1.

Let's go \*even\* further.  "Trump will deputize all the police in the country too!"  That's...an extra 700,000 personnel, and changes the math from 10 to 1 to...9 to 1.

That's all the explicit cards I've stacked Trump's deck with.  Look at all the \*implicit\* cards I've given him:

1) Every member of the police and military will follow his every order without question (almost certainly not the case)  
2) Independents will sit back and do nothing while their friends, families and communities are assaulted (they most certainly will not)  
3) They have the logistics and facilities to actually carry out this operation (they almost certainly do not)

This plays into my final point.  Military dictatorship has one single rule: NEVER give an order that will not be carried out.  I'm just some random schmuck on the interwebs and I figured all this out with a few Google searches.  You think the guys in the military aren't aware of all these sticking points?  They know that if they are given this order and try to carry it out, they will almost certainly fail.  Heck, plenty of units will likely go AWOL and that creates further problems for Trump: if the military starts fracturing, he has to dedicate resources to keep everyone in line; that's even LESS resources available to go around and start rounding up people.  The moment the military starts breaking up is the moment any regime collapses.

TLDR: sheer numbers ensure that even \*if\* Trump is dumb enough to try, it will ultimately destroy his administration.

BowlEducational6722

They are counting on lay down and take it up the chute people like this just displayed.  Get off your butt and get out into the real world.  They don't have the numbers and every day they lose more and more.  Do you really think that there are people out there still sitting on the fence about this guy?  They are trying to use propaganda and intimidation to get people like you to lay down.  I cannot tell you how to gain faith.  The only thing I can tell you is if all you do is doom-scroll that's all you'll ever be a doom and gloom statistic.  We need warriors.  Not wimps.  I am not suggesting your fears are not warranted.  But they already have everything they need to go after those not supporting the Trump regime.  It's just so counterproductive that it shouldn't occupy even so much as a corner of your brain.  We will all find each other on the outside when the time comes and we all join hands when we defeat these Nazis for a 2nd time.  Have faith.  There won't be a third....

DescriptionBubbly934

Honestly, this take belongs in a doomer subreddit instead of CMV.

"This isn't necessarily a comment on whether the midterms will be free and fair elections, though I have my doubts about that as well." If this was coming from a right-leaning person, it would be seen as hyperbolic and dismissed with impunity. There will still be elections and they will be free and fair. If your worry is that elections will be stolen, well, isn't the election denying and we've all been told that you can't hold office and be an election denier, right?

The threat of arrest that Trump was talking about - and news organizations are trying to spin it differently - was if he defies ICE operations and doesn't allow them to carry out their business. Your accusation that Trump would have him arrested because he disagreed with him politically is false and misleading. ICE enforcement is a political disagreement between the Left and the Right, but enforcement of immigration law is what would get him arrested.

SnooDucks6090

I feel so sorry for you. You’ve listened to your Ecco chamber of fear for so long that you actually think you’re in real danger. You’re absolutely not, go vote the way you want, you’ll be safe from political violence.

I’m listening to the MAGAsphere a lot these days. There isn’t even an undertone of wanting to do violence to dems. In fact there’s sorrow being expressed that so many think they’re in danger from the right without any real threats.

MrAsimi

I'll just comment on the bit about the Mayoral election. Trump said that he would arrest Mamdani if he interfered with ICE operations. Whether you think ICE is justified in the measures it takes to deport illegal immigrants or not, to actively interfere with federal law enforcement from doing their job is a federal crime that depending on the severity of the crime can result in jail time. I know its rich considering its coming from Trump's mouth, but we should hold all Americans, including elected officials to the same legal standard. If Mamdani breaks the law by interfering with federal police investigations, then he should face punishment, potentially including jail time.

KrakenCrazy

I don't believe there will be widespread violence at the polls or after. I believe that the current laws around polling places will do a good enough job at protecting voters, as will the inability to tell which party one is pulling the lever for at the polling place- an individual trying to drive into a line of voters runs the risk of taking out more of his party's supporters than his opponent's. 

I do agree that there may be more violence against elected individuals- for instance the Hortman/Hoffmann shootings in Minnesota demonstrate that there is clearly a risk lawmakers are taking by being publicly the face of the party in a time where one party has been encouraging and pardoning violence done by its supporters. 

I don't agree that it'll change the outcome of the midterms, unless an elected individual is shot and killed, prompting a second special election to fill the gap. But even that is unlikely given the increased awareness in general after the Luigi incident.

I also don't agree that citizens will somehow be targeted for voting Democrat; this would be done more by party affiliation as votes are not public. This is already happening, though, as Trump has targeted Democrat-run states for ICE raids and not Republican-run states, and many other EOs which have unfairly targeted California, Illinois, and NY. 

Bottom line- don't fear injury or death. Go out and do your civic duty, vote as your conscience requires, and if you see something, say something, and save lives.

cheez0r

I think you're overestimating the momentum Trump and Maga have. The thing about incumbents is that they get blamed for everything. No one likes incumbents and that's a big part of why Kamala wasn't a strong candidate--she was too closely tied to the prior administration. Trump's approval rating is already in the gutter and while it looks to us like he promised to implement project 2025 and is doing so, his non-Maga supporters think he's just a normal president who likes theatrics and explictly said he would not implement 2025 but instead return to "normalcy". The more crazy shit he pulls the less likely conservatives who aren't nutjobs will stay home even if they would still vote for him.

In contrast, every liberal I know has never been more ashamed of being American than they are now. I personally feel as a white man like an outsider in my own country and didn't celebrate the 4th of July this year because what is there to celebrate. I'm fired up and will absolutely be voting in every election I possibly can, and absolutely not for any Republican, potentially for the rest of my life. I hate being embarrassed by my country and am ashamed of being American for the first time in my life. I used to tear up when hearing the national anthem and now I just think it's a joke.

You need to factor in: 1. Incumbents lose momentum and 2. This is the most divisive administration in our lifetimes (so far) and has people still fired up to limit the damage it does to us. Once these are factored in, whatever dumb shit the administration tries to pull will only be done against the public will and against folks who are very fired up, which is very difficult for anyone to do.

ru_empty

I think it's cute we still think we are having midterm elections.

downvote me all you want. you think these people just did a rush job on a career suicide bill without insight into what's to come? They are already cancelling and postponing elections testing the waters. Just because you close your eyes to reality doesn't; mean it's not happening.

TacticalCocoaBunny

SquidsArePeople2

States run elections, though.

Where I'm at, I'll probably be relatively safe. 

But in some places, islands of blue in lakes of red, election officials are certainly going to need to beef up security...assuming the state doesn't make that illegal or otherwise hamper that effort.

TheMissingPremise

You’re worried that Democratic voters will face retaliation just for voting? Bro, take a step back. If anyone’s getting targeted for how they vote in this country, it’s Republicans. And it’s already happening.



Try walking around a major city in a red hat. Try having a GOP bumper sticker in a blue neighborhood without getting your car keyed or your tires slashed. People lose jobs, get doxxed, harassed, and even assaulted just for voting conservative—or hell, just admitting they did. That’s not theoretical. That’s not “maybe someday.” That’s now.



Look at what happened during the 2020 election cycle and beyond. Left-wing activists went door to door harassing Trump supporters. Businesses posted signs saying Republicans weren’t welcome. People were physically attacked at rallies. And now, you’ve got openly leftist circles online saying Trump voters “don’t deserve a place in society” and joking about assassinations like it’s just another meme. That’s what actual voter intimidation looks like—when one side makes it socially, professionally, and physically dangerous to support the other.



You want to talk about threats to democracy? Start with the side that screams “vote how we like or you’re a fascist who deserves what’s coming.” That’s not democracy. That’s soft totalitarianism dressed up as moral superiority.



So yeah, maybe take a hard look at which side actually punishes people for voting the “wrong” way. It’s not the one waving flags—it’s the one carrying bricks and Molotovs when the vote doesn’t go their way.

duganaokthe5th

Just wear a Maga hat if you're that scared unless that is more likely to get you attacked by dems like in San Francisco.

ParadoxicalPurpose

Considering your name is not on your ballot, it’s really hard to identify who a person voted for.  Couple that with elections being run by states, the federal government never even sees the ballots.

Unique_Statement7811

The nastier the Republicans get, the more we need to protest, call our Congresspeople, organize, frustrate ICE, protect our undocumented neighbors, provide mutual aid, and vote in overwhelming numbers. 

We, the people need to become a political Behemoth who will thwart Trump now, install a veto-proof majority in 2026, elect a revenge-minded Democrat in 2028 and then keep that people-power going and get on the asses of every single elected Democrat until they finish the job of both prosecuting GOP leaders and ICE agents, as well as, undo every piece of legislation from Trump 2.0 (and then some).

Tucolair

My parents are immigrants. Give me an example of citizens who aren't born to undocumented parents, having their citizenship revoked.  
When I ask this question, here's what people usually point to:

\- [citizens being detained, but not their citizenship revoked or deported](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-immigration-raids-trump-citizens-b2775393.html)

\- [4 examples of people violating their VISA / Greencard conditions](https://time.com/7297802/trump-administration-wrongful-deportations/)

\- [Wikipedia article which has 3 instances of children being deported with their undocumented parents so they dont separate the families](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Americans_from_the_United_States)

But I still haven't been able to find any credible sources for people saying that law abiding naturalized immigrants have anything to worry about.

TheSauceeBoss

I’ve heard that every election cycle for years now and every time NOTHING HAPPENS. Because despite what the media and people on TikTok might say, the US is a country with a lot of political freedom. This isn’t like some other countries where ballots aren’t anonymous or have paramilitary voter intimidation squads roaming around.

arc777_

How can the government possibly go after random people who voted blue? They’re struggling enough as is with the mass deportation of illegal immigrants.

The people who probably are at risk of right wing political persecution and leftist activists and politicians. Like people such as Zohran Mamdani or Palestine activists.

Historically people like that have been targeted by the deep state.

Kaleb_Bunt

Their past actions demonstrate that no one can count on MAGA Republican to be restrained by any legal, moral or ethical principle. The only question they ask is whether or not they can get away with whatever crime, literal or figurative, serves their interests. Trump has taught them that the American legal system is easily played/corrupted by anyone wealthy enough to keep hiring lawyers—and that MAGA voters will cheer any action that harms a lib, an uppity woman, or a person of color. So, further corrupting American voting—that is, in addition to already practiced gerrymandering, bogus voter purges and outright voter intimidation—is certainly possible. A counterpoint is that Republicans need a (permanently minority) second party to maintain the pretense of true democracy in the U. S. And many Democratic officeholders are only too willing to fulfill that role. So merely being a Democrat may not immediately make you a target; it will just make it easier for you to become one.

BaldOrmtheViking

As an American I now believe we have two possible futures:

Trump's policies collapse the United States to the point where every single person is personally affected in a negative way on at least several different fronts,

Somebody with sense comes in to mitigate the damage and smartly has Trump do only what will harm a small enough percentage of the country that the rest of us can "not care."

I fear the second one, not the first. I do not fear a collapse of the US, because I welcome it. I went to a Fourth of July protest yesterday and was screamed at more than I ever have in my entire life, and at any other protest. I feel like I am in a bad dream and keep flinching or hoping somehow I can wake. 

IMHO, there will be a day when Trump calls on his reporters (who by and large have all the guns) to "bring order back to America." On that day, if even 1/1000 people who voted for him do it, there will be 77,000 people with their guns on the streets, killing people. The police will support them for sure. They know who we are, and you can't imagine the contempt they have for anyone who isn't like them. In my mind, this is a reality which is possible in both above scenarios. 

If I could I would leave the US and never come back, but I love this country (or rather what it was,) and I can only hope that we can get back to that. But I have just about lost all hope. I have seen these last 10 years that most humans are cruel and selfish, and I can't know how to come back from that. I only fear where we can go from here.

Spiritual_Swing_2326

I Would love nothing more than to disagree with you,  but I can't.  I'm running for office as a Democrat though I'm more Purple than red or blue.  I have hope though.  I am going to meet people where they live,  talk face to face,  Keeping as much information as possible from the online  forums.  In this age of technology we are use to going online to be anonymous, but that chicken has now come home to roost.  Online is where and how we are tracked.  The U.S government I'm sure has technology to track everyone's online behavior,  I'm betting even behind those VPN'S and Firewalls, BUT....

We have history on our side,  we MUST FOCUS, on becoming united and Indivisible seeking liberty and Justice for ALL. 

BUT....
We have to get offline and rekindle our human connections, with Trump and his MAGA CULT looking through all our online data,  using our treasury to bankroll his propaganda machine, He is seeking to keep Americans indoctrinated with Hate for well everything that is NOT MAGA. 

I hope we can pull up from this nose dive, because if we can't,  CIRCA 1935-1943-Germany that is what not just The U.S.A. is in for,  but the world. 

Anyone who would like to help the Resistance please reach out.  I hope this day finds everyone doing well,  please rekindle your offline relationships!

StephanieSteiner2026

I'd be less concerned about the prospect of Democrat voters being rounded up, and more concerned about how the violent rhetoric from the talking heads, on both sides of the aisle, will further sow division.

This division, in turn, will lead to more acts of political violence. This political violence will lead to the United States eventually fracturing into a Civil War type conflict with comparisons to the Bosnian Wars and Syrian Civil War.

There has already been an alarming increase in political violence these past few years; be it Jan 6th, the Covenant School Shooting, the Kenosha Shooting, the needless deaths during CHAZ/CHOP situation, the Michael Reinhol and Aaron Danielson Killings, as well as the 2022 Buffalo Shooting. To name a few, as there are too many to begin with, and that's without mentioning all the public officials that have been targeted these past several years.

History has shown us that when people refuse to coexist, it inevitably leads to conflict, and conflict only leads to more misery.

And for anyone who comes at me, trying to say that one side is worse, while the other is on 'tHe RigHt sIdE Of hIsTOry", don't waste your breath. I've heard all the mental gymnastics before of people trying to defend the indefensible. If you side with scum for the sake of political tribalism, there is going to come a point where you are going to get exactly what you deserve.

Edit: Grammar

RoamingRivers

The government doesn’t have the ability to rescind citizenship of people born in the US. Denaturalization can’t be done on simple speech grounds. If you lie about being in ISIS, maybe but not for political speech. And the courts would respond negatively, to put it mildly.

-Ch4s3-

No they won't and we won't see shit change period.

I'm registered democrat and voted republican in every local and major election I've been able to vote in. Wanna know who knows this fact? Not a soul. Votes are cast in a ballot box no one can see, no one can tell what's going on in, and no one can tell you how to vote. 

As for calling for the revocation of citizenship, it's solely in regards to people who have come to the United States and acted against its interests by way of policy or action. Not some jingoist or racist policy, quite simply just a bunch of shit talking based on national security concerns. No one has lost their citizenship, no one has lost their right to vote, no one is losing jack shit. 

I'm sorry if this came off as rude but this doomer shit is getting absolutely retarded. No, the man who was president already for 4 years and his established democratically elected allies are not going to turn into actual fascists who will put brown people in camps "like WW2!!!" Shit is gonna be fine, drink a beer, kick back, and relax

dwarven_cavediver_Jr

Safety in numbers. The idea that the right can target tens of millions for their possible voting habits is alarmism. That isn't to say that palantir isn't making a list 10s of millions of people long, it's just in order to rank high enough in this list to be an enforcement priority, you're going to have to be doing something that's an overt threat to the fascist system and it'll have to be known to them that you're doing it, and you're going to have to do it in a way that doesn't create its own form of safety in numbers. That is to say that if you're a lone wolf you will be picked off. If you're rooted in organizing the people, when they come for you, they come for all of you. Much better odds there. Organize your communities. Yes, it will land you a few positions higher on the list. But it will also make you a much harder target. We all have to do this. It's the only way fascism has ever been defeated without a foreign intervention. No one is coming to save us. It's up to us. 


Build relationships and figure out roles and pledge to your neighbors,friends and other comrades that if they come for any of you, you all stand together.

full_metal_communist

Here’s the real danger. Anyone who opposes Israel. Zohran Mamdani has received a level of threats that no other far left politician has. Eric Johnson is just as progressive and nobody is saying to put him in gitmo. Zohran opposes Israel and their influence in the US and it’s costing him a lot to do so, but it’s what he believes in. The reason Ilhan Omar doesn’t receive the same threats is because she doesn’t have the power to directly influence the Israel issue. But then consider Thomas Massie who opposes Israel, and the GOP is going to spend millions to primary him out because his voice is so influential and is turning a lot of heads. Trump is already deporting anti Israel students, preventing them from entering the country. The mainstream democrats oppose this policy as an immigration issue under the guise of due process. What they don’t care to oppose is the pro Israel agenda here because they are in on it too.

Nicktune1219

Seems to me the Democratic voters are the ones who are dangerous.  They're the ones setting shit on fire, attacking people. They're becoming insatiable in their lust for violence.

Recently, Dem law makers found themselves disturbed as their own voters started demanding blood.  Some lawmakers have told Axios that their own base is demanding blood to grab the attention of the press and public, telling them that violence was the answer to to what they viewed as America's political crisis.

The Democrat base is in a frenzy and their bloodlust is growing.  They're reaching a pivotal point where they are trying to justify extreme action.  This comes of course after the failed attempts against Trump last summer.

The Democrats have cried wolf and stoked fear too long for too hard, and now their base is ravenous.

Jaded_Jerry

Yea will be hard to get past your own "peaceful" protests

primo1627

I am very, very happy that my state doesn't require registering with a party.  It's getting wild out here.

vonnegut19

I'll bite.

If Trump and/or the GOP want to target likely Democratic voters, they'd be rounding us up right now.

Even in states where voters don't register as members of a party, it's very easy to predict who someone will vote for. Voter participation records are publicly accessible and parties use them all the time for GOTV efforts. If Homeland Security were to pull up my voting participation record they'd see that I voted in every Democraric primary going on 2 decades now.

That being said, back in 2020 a Trump supporter defaced one of my lawn signs and spray painted my fence with "Trump 2020." But that's a far cry from the government stripping me of citizenship, as you stated.

davossss

It is more likely that Democratic voters are still not united and think it is not worth voting for the Democratic Party.

This has caused the Republican Party to completely control both houses, most state and local government departments, local parliaments and judicial systems.

Then Republican voters took advantage of this opportunity to infinitely magnify their own advantages and introduce a large number of regulations that are beneficial to MAGA political forces.

In the end, the Matthew effect was formed, the Democratic Party was permanently marginalized, and Democratic voters were either dismantled, or chose to shut up, or joined the moderates in the Republican Party.

Crafty-Average-586

This could almost fit into the doomer forums.

Look, this was a fear tactic spread before the 2018 midterms. Because "ohmigod! Trump's coming for us!" fearmongering.

It didn't happen then. It'd not going to happen now.

Those "political opponents" getting arrested? Yeah, they're breaking laws. They're not getting arrested because of their political view, although that political belief is leading them to do stupid shit.

Those having their immigration status revoked? By and large, it's because they're actually doing stuff that is prohibited, or indicates they fraudulently filled out their paperwork.

I get it. Your political team is screaming we're doomed, and telling you to panic. They're telling you that it's the single greatest threat, we've ever faced (for the 30th time in the past 14 years or so). They're telling you that you *need* to panic. 

But I want you to step back, and take a deep breath. Now, ask yourself, "the people that are telling me to panic.. do they have a self-interest reason for me to panic?". The answer is "yes, they do".  Which means, it's probably not a reasonable time to panic. 

You see, if you panic, you blindly listen to what they say and tell you to do, and just go along. You don't stop and think critically. 

So, don't panic. Don't listen to fear-mongers.

AcceptablePea262

It seems to me that there’s going to be severe intimidation at the polls in 2026. They’re hiring more ice agents than the FBI DEA and ATF combined. They’re not going to be looking for Harvard graduates for these jobs. If you’re a neo-Nazi, one per enter, proud boy or the like then you’re a shoe in. It seems to me that they will almost certainly be at every polling place dressed for a battlefield and they will be threatening anybody who might be a Democrat with deportation. Trump is already saying that we should be able to deport American citizens too. That Trump is a big Hitler fan and this is how he gets his own SS.

worklikeacat

We’ve already had elections since Trump was inaugurated and Democrats have done well.

Beneficial_Aside_518

There are 80+ million "enemies". I say good luck to them. And to you, stop being defeatist and arm yourself.

stlshane

I agree and I’ve been saying this since the height of qanon. They have been literally demonizing democrats and insinuating them as been the most evil of evil, to the point of literally child trafficking. So now we are at a point to where those accusations were so extreme that it was enough to tilt the spectrum more right of center. I was afraid to the point that democrats will be dragged into the streets at some point in our future but I’ll keep that as a personal fear and not spread that fear to the masses.

WWTDD3000

You need to unplug from MSNBC and TYT for at least a month

gatorhinder

For the most part, this has been an intelligent conversation, dare I say a debate? The contrasting viewpoints continue to point to a divided America. I can't for the life of me understand why. In the election it was pretty clear that the choice was between good and evil... And yet here we are. That says volumes. The opposing voices that pop up on every thread indicates to me that there is a widening chasm in America. 

I am watchful and hopeful, but I have also loaded all of my spare magazines.

TechheadDD

Until the Democrat party does a little self reflection every election is going to be dangerous for them.

Conscious-Function-2

Don't care vote anyways. If you are scared to vote, it's even more important that you do so. If you let the idea that they are going to do violence prevent you from voting then they already won without the violence. Fuck them. not scaring  me away.

gill_smoke

No data is private anymore.  They absolutely know how you vote &amp; that will be used against you in the future.  Palantir &amp; Peter Thiel are the nail in that coffin.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/08/14/agent-of-intelligence-how-a-deviant-philosopher-built-palantir-a-cia-funded-data-mining-juggernaut/

https://youtu.be/TZOoT8AbkNE?si=cDaoOzmXsdLjZXWN

https://medium.com/the-political-prism/the-great-data-robbery-of-2025-e88db23179a5

PatienceElectronic66

Next summer they will try to push through that federal law to force people voting to mach their name at birth.  There will be no time for it to be challenged on court,there will be no stay and mass confusion on predominantly married women being able to vote.


The mass layoffs in the federal government will also mean any body who has changed their name will not be able to get proper documentation.



That's the big rig.  Don't be surprised.

NothaBanga

It’s too much effort and too obvious for republicans to intimate democratic voters at the polls, they just need to use the same tactic they used last year: fake bomb threat, voter purge and burning democratic ballot box to achieve their goal. If democrats won they will just allege voter fraud and refuse to seat elected democrats, or Trump will just cancel midterm if he believes there will be a republican wipeout.

userfromau

The best predictor of future behavior is one’s past behavior. 

There is no better example of that than the 2024 POTUS election. Americas moderates and swing voters, who are the ones who actually decide elections, had a choice between a second Trump term and a second Biden/Harris term, and chose Trump. 

Look at which party weaponized the government and went overboard with lawfare. Look at which party withheld FEMA rescue services during disasters. Look at the political affiliation of rioters and insurrectionists. 

Democrats made policies that people lost their jobs for refusing to take experimental COVID jabs. Democrats went after Trump for fraud for a bank loan, which he actually fully repaid, early even. Democrats convicted Trump of felonies which were converted misdemeanors, but there was no qualifying felony to attach the misdemeanors to which qualified the conversion. 

The George Floyd riots and insurrections were widespread and ongoing, by democrat affiliated people. The lone Republican incident (Jan 6th) was tiny and mild in comparison. Then the 2025 immigration riots kicked off, and while democrat politicians were ready to let things get out of control again, Republican politicians put a lot of boots on the ground immediately, which was a hugely effective deterrent. Democrat controlled areas that didn’t saw widespread violence, vandalism, looting, and lethal force being used against law enforcement.  Then Trump activated National Guard and deployed nearby marines to LA, which was a very effective strategy, and the violence was contained. 

Both sides like to shoot their mouths off when they are upset. But look at what each side actually does. Look at what they actually do, not what their opponents accuse them of doing. 

Past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. That’s why good drivers get better insurance rates than bad drivers. It’s why violent felons aren’t allowed to own guns. It’s why there are credit reports. It’s why you shouldn’t marry a cheater. In recent years both sides were pissed when “their guy” wasn’t in the White House. But which side just complained a lot, vs which side was rioting in the streets?

GeneralLeia-SAOS

Having a ~30% approval rating and year-over-year loss in voting turnout will hurt them more than any external force.

Can’t intimidate voters who don’t show up.

PropDrops

That doesn't sound wild at all.  From the outside perspective, the US is already at least a decade past the point where it should have had international observers for elections.

Snurgisdr

Midterms require Democrats to focus on lower working class people. They comprise a third of the country but completely  unrepresented . Many of the 70,000,000 non-voters are in this group. Be unrelenting with message health- care for all . I’ve presented idea to move on organization head, Tom Hartmans on Free Speech TV, as well as voicing concept on Washington Journal.

Downtown_Ratio_603

Two Democratic politicians were assassinated this year, following an attempted assassination of the Pennsylvania governor. 

Trump has talked openly about disappearing “home growns” and has empowered law enforcement to violate civil liberties.

And he’s already tried to overthrow the government once.

Republicans are dangerous.

Ok_Chemist6567

As much as I'd LOVE to be able to change your mind I can't as we have proof that is not the case. This past election in America we have had several bomb threats, ballot boxes being lit on fire, and other various threats to democrats (during and prior to both voters and politicians) in Primarily Blue areas.

WiltedTiger

You are not being hyperbolic. Fascist will do whatever possible to keep power. Theyve broken countless laws and likely interfered with the last presidential election in multiple ways.

America has fallen, the fascists have won. Voting is likely as legitimate as Russian voting. 

But we can still resist.

rsmmt1009

We should not be ruled by fear. We must vote no matter the consequences. Our ancestors have fought and some have died for our right to vote. Taking a stand on something you believe in is never without risk, we should fight for a system where we can vote without fear, not shy away from that fight.

HeadManagement8898

What evidence do you offer in favor of this conjecture (beyond just 'american politics' and 'weaponization of media and demographics' whatever that means) what actual specific incidents or statements are you referring to, and what sort of events, statements, or precedents would change your mind?

awfulcrowded117

I don't think they will go this route because its more reliable and easier to identify likely political enemies via their social media, their demographics, the types of TV they watch, etc than it is simply by just looking at what party they are registered as. I'm an independent but MAGA would put me up against the wall and blow my brains out for sure.

girldrinksgasoline

Bottom line: Don't vote "blue not matter who". Vote integrity into offices everywhere. Vote SANELY.

HunterWithGreenScale

So: martial law then? Because that’s the only way the federal government can “take over a city” against the will of its elected officials and citizenry. Is that where we’re headed?

LoserBroadside

Seems like a distraction from him being in the Epstein list.

Weekly-Talk9752

With him interfering in an election, he's almost guaranteeing Mamdani wins easily

Jolly-Midnight7567

Hahahaha. Hahahaha. Brother has lost his damn mind lmao

ZugZug42069

And I’m looking into “no fucking way”.

botany_bae

Yeah... I think he's lost his marbles.

Does Trump realize how major of a event it would be to have federal law enforcement spread in mass numbers across California, New York, Florida, Washington DC, Texas, and every major player in the game from around the world ?

He's going to be messing with peoples money and their families.

This is an insane power move. A complete unimaginable test of power and loyalty 

It's definitely going to be an awesome training exercise for the entire world.

Can Trump actually pull this together ?.... Yes... !

I'm really not sure that it's a good idea, but it will definitely be entertaining and horrifying at the same time.

It's not considered martial law until the Generals take command over the governor. Until then, it's just a scaled act of criminal justice..

Yeah.... The president can order the Generals to take command over the governors even arrest the governors.

Difficult_Coconut164

Trump is letting America know that if he didn't like the candidate selected by the people, he will use the military against the American people. Trump is telling America we will not have free and fair elections. He is the one who decides.

AhBee1

Seems like a distraction from the Epstein list

ScarBrows156

“Crime would be down to a minimal or much less” da ferq??

jiggscaseyNJ

That guy says anything. For better or worse, you can’t take anything at face value.

NiemandDaar

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