The Pahalgam attack in Jammu and Kashmir has generated a predominantly negative public sentiment characterized by anger, fear, and frustration. Many commenters are critical of the perceived failures of India's intelligence and security forces, expressing dismay over the lack of effective measures to prevent such attacks. The incident has heightened communal tensions, with some blaming religious extremism while others urge for unity and understanding. The government's handling of the situation and underlying political motives are also subjects of strong criticism, leading to widespread disenchantment. Furthermore, there is a palpable concern for safety among tourists and implications for local communities, with calls for improved security, accountability, and peace.

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All 4 of them Muslims . Asked if they were Hindu and then shot. 
Ani liberandu haru Terrorism has no religion vandai hindxan. The moment Muslim ko population becomes even 15% in Nepal yetai ni yestai hunxa. So yinharu ko population control ma rakhnu parxa

Former_Jello1011

Europe is suffering because of them. Nordic nations have weekly explosions, out of control rape crimes and no go zones. UK racing to become an add-on to Pakistan. The politicians in the West have destroyed the glory of their places importing people who hate every inch of their culture. 

How much more is needed before we declare this ideology as grave threat to democracy? It literally is. They hate democracy too. They want Sharia and stone pelting.

Symmetries_Research

Ok-Sympathy-3055

I am usually a pacifist, but I hope they are given the death penalty at this point.

Aggressive-Simple-16

Hate Muslims as much as you want

But also remember, A MUSLIM MAN fought against them and lost his life.
Don't demean and respect his sacrifice

LampardSon

Political issues hunthyo bhani, Nepali lai marna parni reason k cha??? It’s all about kafirs… Muslims le hindu identity garera marek bhanni sunyachaina?? Dekhyachina??

Super_Desk4320

many people won't like what I'm saying but this was to be expected. Guerilla tactics can't be done without popular support from the locals, India took away the autonomy of J and K (Was literally ingrained in the constitution until BJP wanted to stroke their ego) , sent settlers there, had their military oppress and sometimes even rape the locals. Any sustained guerilla attacks requires local support, specially in J and K where there are hundreds of thousands of  Indian officials protecting the border with Pakistan.

They killed Hindus, because the people who striped them of their constitutional rights happen to justify everything with Hinduism. Jihad or anything is an excuse for resistance. 

BJP fucked up, this could all have been prevented by Chinese style suppression of terrorism, make roads, hospitals and schools, give them extra reservation, give them extra marks in JEE and NEET, extra reservation in parliament, extra reservation in IITs, give them autonomy in their state, pump up their economy, this will reduce local support to the terrorists, and then institutional violence on foreign funded separatists. Bribe the locals to so that they tolerate your army. 

Institutional violence on everyone just makes the terrorists stronger.

Israeli tactics don't work, and it is persuaded by bibi, who would go to jail due to corruption if not for constant threat from hamas (which bibi created to suppress more secular fractions of Palestinian resistance)

Condolences to the victims, but you should not got to active occupation (both sides of Kashmir) for a vacation, its stupid.

Elegant-Subject-9211

India is the 4th strongest military, right? THEN HOW CAN TERRORISTS RANDOMLY CAME WALKING WITH GUNS SHOOT PEOPLE BY ASKING THEIR RELIGION AND EVEN VERIFYING THEM AND LEFT????? AND NO FORCES OR POLICES KNEW ALL THIS, THEY DIDNT SPAWN TILL THE LAST MINUTE? ALL THIS HAPPENED IN KASHMIR WHERE MILITARY IS ALERTED IN STREETS.   
This shocks me to the core.

Low_Cryptographer706

China hasnot said a word rey? k hoo kai thanapaae essai postauni

Oli_ko_Oligarch

AdParty7461

Very old and common US tactics. divide and conquer. 1. Recruit disgruntled citizens 2. Supply them used weaponry....

lauchuntoi

You didn't have to share the news with your own conspiracy theory. I don't see any bigger pictures (without finding more) other than it being an attack against indian hindus by terrorists.

ambitiousnepali

AdMajestic2343

Suitable-Resident-78

Read the comments, so much hate for Muslim community. While a part of people from the community cimmit crime and all, blaming all is just not right. I'm so scared to see that people are up voting and supporting extremist hatred comments and downvoting logical comments that are asking for proof and requesting not to just blame countries on the basis of hatred, without any proof. And also people calling others mullas just because they commented things that didn't support their views.

It's scary that people are starting to divide into religion and turning into extremists. IN NEPAL! 

Nepal doesn't need this hate and division.

Figuring-thingsout

Simple_Money_4241

kcprdp06

Evidence that this was orchestrated by the Pakistani government? It's all too easy to scapegoat Pakistan, but what actual evidence do you have other than bias Indian media that is already fueled with anti-pakistan vitriol and rhetoric?

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SpookyInstance

Sure_Light5553

IcyParfait3120

These buddhist people are so voilent, carrying guns and killing hindus. We all know buddhisim is the most violent religion in earth based on historical facts.![img](emote|t5_afta1v|52365)

SnooObjections

Eastbull89

I totally agree with you. I was watching the news before going to sleep last night and saw it. This terrorist attack is so brutal and horrible. This is bad news for India, the region, and also us.

Such terrorism must be strongly contested. Silencs means soft support. Our government needs to issue a formal statement to show solidarity. We should also show solidarity.

fogrampercot

Disliking India (politically) doesn't mean you should support terrorist attacks on innocent civilians. Alas, most of our countrymen are busy spamming "alhamdulillah" under the news of this attack. They say terrorism has no religion, yet they celebrate when kafirs die.

vyre_016

Those who committed this terrorist act are absolute scums. I hope they are punished for their crimes on Earth and also in Afterlife.

More people continue to lose their lives on the hands of these brainwashed animals, only because of the greed of Indian &amp; Pakistani governments.

Relative_Ad8738

What is more terrifying is some Bangladeshi people  celebrating this.

This-biggCat555

I'm shocked more people are not up voting this

noor-nazneen

RIP 🙏 🪦 
And yes moderate Muslims should speak up about this issue because the voices that will take this chance to blame the whole community is very vocal.

Eastern_Necessary_27

[Looks like](https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/pahalgam-attack-terrorists-checked-ids-pulled-down-pants-to-verify-religion-eyewitnesses-recount-horror-2025-04-23-986863) the terrorists also pulled down pants to verify religion. This is so vile. It reminds me of the Holey Artisan attack.

I’m just spectating the hypocrisy of bangus, some are celebrating, others are hell bent on trying to find a conspiracy and completely in denial, none of them has so far acknowledged the terrorism, I saw one post pointing out that a single Muslim guy died to prove that it wasn’t targeted terrorism, when we literally have eyewitness statements and videos of them checking ids and even genitals to see if they’re hindu and then killing them. This was clearly a jongi attack, and BD people are in their usual denial mode. No one bats an eye when minorities get attacked in BD(hill tract natives, hindus), Police comes forward and completely deny such attacks despite there being direct evidence and Bangus continue to play the victim card.

Small-Interview-2800

sanelde_senior

It’s disheartening to see some of my highly educated peers—even those from BUET—celebrating this. Those who are usually the "most vocal about human rights" are either justifying it or remaining silent. At times like these, one can’t help but wonder if affection and solidarity are, after all, tied to religion.

Top_Damage3758

**আপনি একটা খেলনা বন্দুক গাড়ির ডিকিতে রেখে পুরো কাশ্মীর ঘুরতে পারবেন?**  
**পারবেন না। আপনি এক ঘন্টার মধ্যে ধরা পড়ে যাবেন, অথচ এই সব জঙ্গিরা ৩০০ কেজি আরডিএক্স, বড়ো বড়ো বন্দুক, গ্রেনেড ইত্যাদি নিয়ে কাশ্মীরে ঘুরে বেড়ায়, কিন্তু ধরা পড়ে না।**  
**অদ্ভুত না?** \-- প্রাণজিত দে

Own-Bodybuilder4821

The attack doesn't seem to be possible without local help.

firenati0n

I believe the Government of Bangladesh has already issued a statement condemning the terrorist attack. Most educated individuals likely share the same sentiment. This is a deeply tragic event for humanity.

king_john_2598

Now Indian Muslims will be marginalized even more. 😐

Otcoron

In your second last paragraph you posted hateful anti-Islam stating that  if Bangladeshi Muslims don't condemn the atrocities against India (that sponsors terrorists,  attacks and murders citizens of other countries like Canada &amp; Pakistan) than it is indicative of their faith, what nonsense! You are implicating fellow Bangladeshi Muslims if they don't condemn attack on RSS infested India. 
Are you loyal to Bangladesh or a foreign nation India because you are Hindu? If an Indian Muslim posted this he would be lynched already with his family in jail and their home demolished by your co-religionist RSS fanatic ruling govt. 
Checked your profile haven't seen you condemn when Indian sponsored Baloch terrorists kill Pakistanis? 
So as per your mentality only Hindus are innocent human beings. Very unfortunate psyche and this shows Pakistan and Bangladesh can't trust their Hindu minorities who are more loyal to the enemy state India.

Zamanakh_34

The lady sitting beside her dead husband was heart breaking.. 💔💔

jamessmith9419

Brutal barbaric 
I pray the instigators rot in hell

spikeineyes

manjohnkump970

How would Muslims in Pakistan or Bangladesh react if 3 Hindus with guns ask tourists to remove pants to check circumcision, and ask them to recite gayatri mantra, failing which they shoot 26 muslims in the head in front of their wives?

There are bound to be tensions in the most liberal of countries if such a thing happens. In Pakistan, this will definitely lead to massive riots, like those after babri, which led to 30 temples getting destroyed.

More Hindus were killed that day than number of beef based lynchings in about a decade(which are more complicated than simple hate but I digress).

Altruistic_Snow_910

You said you had to support Palestine. But I am sure you would condemn what Hamas did. I do. But let's be honest and try to understand what are all reasons why Hamas did that. 

Desperate young boys, with no hope for their lives, being oppressed for their entire lives, perhaps their parents were killed, their electricity and water are controlled by Israel. Sometimes killed by the IDF. And Hamas killed innocent civilians. This is strongly unfortunate. But, there will always be this kind of hatred towards the Israeli people and even civilians until there is peace and safety for BOTH of the populace, which Israel doesn't agree. 

Similarly, here. The Indian government has [law, ](https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/03/24/kashmiri-journalist-detained-under-draconian-indian-law)by which it oppresses the Kashmiri people. It has been working day and night to change the demographics of Kashmir. It's highly islamophobic tendencies against Muslims, is only one of the key reason. There are new settlements in Kashmir initiated by the Indian government. It's EXACTLY what Israel did to Palestine. It's fucking SETTLER COLONIALISM! 

When we see through the entire idea, why peace is not possible in the region it's depressing. The Indian government, much likely the Israeli government is not interested in peace, because they are far more powerful than some fucking terrorist living in cave or something. They can garner this terrorism theory to further get votes. 

  
**Moreover, Bangladeshi Muslims don't care about Palestinian or Kashmiri people. They are supporting them, without having read any literature regarding the subject matter. They care about Palestine because of the mosque, and they are muslim. I say I don't care about the mosque. But give people right to life. (so, don't look into comments, they are morons.)**

CosmicCitizen0

Sounds like India is very unstable. Kashmir, Punjab, Manipur all fighting for independence. Maybe UN should send their troops there.

Edit: look at all the Indians cosplaying as Bangladeshi downvoting, haha.

RawSauceBoi

This is heartbreaking and henious act. But I have some doubts in mind. Is butcher of Gujarat playing his old trick again? At this point of time he will be the most benefited one because of this act.

Odd_Economist_8898

godrick00

It's a black stain on the fight for freedom against India's occupation in jnk. It was a premeditated t**rist hate crime as they were specifically targeting innocent unarmed 'hindus'. This is a dastardly and cowardly and unislamic and actually negatively impacted their cause. Massive L to the trf and as a practicing muslim from a aalim family schooled in tahfeez and a hafez I completely and vehemently condemn this action and the organization as a whole. 

&gt; "(In context of battle) Do not unalive women or children or **non-combatants** and do not unalive old people or **religious people**..."

(Ibn Majah 2858, Abu Dawood 2669)


&gt; "Go forth in the name of Allah... Do not unalive a woman, or a child, or an old man, and do not deface or unalive animals except for food."

(Al-Muwatta, Malik)

As for some of the indians; it's just mob mentality. They do not care about those Hindu lives instead they care about what next to vent their hatred on to forget about their bitter lives. If they had cared they would be sending condolences to the family's and not propagate the same hatred. Instead of providing constructive and nuanced takes and offering intricate steps to a solution they just shut their brains like bottlenose dolphins and chalk it up to Islam and the 2 billions Muslims. Yeah so easy no, "Muslims are the vermins". Well guess what we are here to stay so either give inclusive and positive solution otherwise keep to yourself.

bongorpola

Both BD and India have shit stains. So if some BD people celebrate this, I don't think that matters or we all should be up in arms about that as that's very much expected behavior from both us and our neighbors. There are no shortages of POS in this godforsaken subcontinent.

And for our government, if they want to send their thoughts and prayers it's good, and if they don't want that's also good too. India atm acting like an enemy state,  who cares whatever happens inside them. I am sure Vance will say something derogatory/threatening about BD in his upcoming speech because India asked him to do so. Who cares if communal violence or whatever else rises in that country, let's be fucking indifferent to them.

lazy_bastard_001

Its sad 
But nothing to do with us..
Still they will tag the whole Muslims for it..

Unlucky_Client_7118

As I wait for my friend's cremation ceremony tomorrow, there's no other thought that crosses my mind than to imagine what he must have felt at that moment. The last thing he saw before it all happened. He had so much potential and so much to live for, taken away from us, so cruelly. I keep thinking of the what ifs - what if he had just not planned to visit Kashmir, what if he had gone a day earlier or planned for later..what if he had gone an hour before or planned for later. Somehow, it seems like his fate led him there and that's the only thing that helps me make a little sense of what has happened. I have become numb to everything being shown on media and elsewhere - the truth of the hour is - when you lose someone to tragedies like this, nothing matters. We always talk about "justice" and "revenge", but those don't bring the person back. I still cannot believe that he is no more, this has been a nightmare and a very cruel one at that. There's no place in rotten hell for people who did this to him. I'm not one to post on reddit often, but I wanted to do so because I don't want my friend to become another statistic that becomes forgotton as time passes. I know we quickly become desensetized to things like this, but we need to remember that the victims were real people who mattered and deserved to live, and did nothing wrong by being there. His life mattered, and we will never be able to fill the void that he has left behind. I'm not sure on when he will receive justice, but I do hope that he finds the peace he went to look for.

dri_dri_

How in the world is there 0 security? I mean the airport has more security than a freaking conflict zone.

thegamer720x

I’m still in Kashmir and our original plan was to go to Pahalgam tomorrow. We visited Sonmarg on Monday and Gulmarg yesterday. There were army personnel stationed every 5 minutes along the road in Sonmarg when we rode in car to the Thajiwas glacier base point. But once we reached the spot where local people crowd to haggle with tourists, there were no army or police in sight any further. Gulmarg had very few army in sight along the way though we got to see CRPF convoy vans frequently but again none at the tourist point or further along the ride in ATV. I guess the same would have been the case with Baisaran as well. I feel at least a couple of police or army should have been there at a place where over 3000 tourists are present at a time. That’s a major security lapse.

JobGroundbreaking752

Thank you for sharing the on-ground reality. Much needed in this time

Complex_Feedback_748

This is heartbreaking. I was in Kashmir last year around Independence Day, and I remember feeling constantly on edge. Even though the locals were kind and incredibly helpful, I couldn’t shake off the fear. Just two days before one of our outings, we found out there had been a militant shot down in the area—but no one told us at the time. The stories I heard later were honestly terrifying. It’s scary how fragile safety can be

Puzzled-Noise-

Why no one's holding the government accountable??? Everyone's using this to justify their hatred for communal harmony. This is NOT a political issue, this is a NATIONAL ISSUE and must be treated as such. This is a threat to our security. Time to put aside political beliefs and face this crisis as a nation.

boomboombakdan

Glad you are okay my guy. Take some rest and have a breather, people take out their time for their vacations only to suffer at times like these. Kudos to the locals for handling it calmly but tourism is gonna cripple no matter what. 

If tourists are not safe, same can be extended to the locals. Did things even changed over the years?

Ligma_Sugmi

I have been saying this since yesterday, how the hell does something like this happen in such a popular and crowded tourist spot with no security presence whatsoever? Total intelligence and security failure. This isn’t some hidden trail in the mountains, it’s a major tourist hub. The terrorists managed to get in, attack and murder civilians, cause this much damage and escape without being intercepted. I mean, wtf!!! How were there no alerts, no officers, nothing? 


Absolute shame on those responsible for keeping the area safe. This is not just a lapse, it's negligence. 


There have been people saying stuff like “they only have to get lucky once” to cover up the intelligence failure of the government  but it's the government’s job to make sure they never get that chance. It’s their job to stop these “one-time” wins before they happen, especially in high-risk areas like this. If we keep brushing off every failure with “they only have to win once,” we’re basically saying we should just accept this as normal. That’s not acceptable.


And huge respect to the locals who stepped up. They probably saved dozens of lives just by keeping everyone calm and getting people out.

Mayor_McCheese7

I was curious about this - This isn't something that happened over seconds or minutes, why was the response time so poor? In such a high-tension area, so much chest thumping done daily about our military, but how come it took so long for a response?

Advanced_Tangelo

But i'd still say Sonmarg still had better army presence than the " mini Switzerland ". Pehelgam also has apt army presence but the " mini Switzerland " is completely isolated. No vehicle can go there, you need to go there via horse, atv or helicopter. They planned and attacked the position that is tough to reach with little to no security. Compared to that Sonmarg for the most part has security at every tourist location.

isthisneeded29

I was there a month back, there’s zero security at the scenic places. My heart goes for the families who lost their loved ones. The heart aches for Kashmiri’s as well, they were all kind and lovely to us. My driver there said, “ab idhar pathar koi nahi utha ta.” 
Their economy who’s heavily dependent on tourism will definitely take some hit. 
My father, an army veteran, was afraid when I told him I’m going to Pahalgam (I was not aware then that it comes in Anantnag or in Pulwama district both of which are terrorist prone areas). He explicitly asked me not to tell anyone that I’m a son of an army personnel or even get involved in political discussions. Now I know why. 
For the first time I a 32 year old is realising that I’m not safe in a particular territory of my own country. 
The heart feels sorry for the lost soles, the heart aches because I’m helpless and can’t do anything, it’s also filled with rage because people like you and me will forget what has happened, log fir wahi language and caste ka mudda bana lenge, but the heart demands - ankh k badle ankh. 
Kill all those terrorists, kill all who were involved whether they are here in India or anywhere else. 

We want justice and not condolences. 💐.

PlumForsaken4124

I was in Kashmir in February last year and what you said is true about lack of security. 

Srinagar is very heavily guarded and checks happen so often. 
But when you go out of Srinagar, you are on your own. 
I mean, it’s a valley and there are millions of dark spots. 

Most of the locals are good and welcoming and they are part of the typical tourist industry.
But you can tell that none of them want to belong to India or be identified as Indians. They hate us.

Srihari_stan

I had been to Palagham couple of years ago. My father was a former central govt employee in Ministry of home affairs. My understanding is army/CISF are deployed at strategic locations. Others are often at checkpoints. It’s not humanly possible to cover all of Kashmir. Rmbr Kashmiri’s are already fed up of army all over the town. From what I sense it’s a failure on the part of intelligence.

srinivazzi

I don't get what you are saying completely. Maybe my comprehension is bad.
But Two things are true. 
1. Terrorists are the main culprit here and not a religion or a region.
2. Intelligence of Indian government they so much boast about failed.

Also I have been to kashmir and all it's famous places atleast twice in last two years and number of security personnel has never been an issue. Our driver who is a kashmiri, always almost gets irritated while taking us to these places due to extra convoys and military halts that causes inconvenience to local but I am not faulting army here as they have their protocols.

So I don't get your point about less security. As per my experience there is ample security in all tourist places and on main roads. You can't have soldier on every door and that is something locals detest even more and I can comprehend why.
Yes baisaran valley is an exception where there is no security and there wasnt any even when i visited. and that is where the intelligence comes into play and where failure happened. There are soldiers in betab valley ,aaru valley, and other major attractions in pahalgam always.

Also all the kashmiris in these tourist area are tourism dependent and are truthful people. So no surprise they helped.

dragonsaredead

But the majority of our population doesn't care about facts. They are using this as an excuse to bring out their hidden venom and hatred. They deliberately combine the sample with the ensemble (aka composition fallacy) to stereotype a whole religious group. This country is doomed.

Fooled-by-Randomness

Yeah, it’s a massive security failure—no denying that. And let’s be real, Indian intel feels like it’s running on fumes right now. Modi can’t keep dodging accountability forever.

But hold up—what ‘propaganda’ are you talking about exactly? Why so scared to call it what it is? This was clearly a religion-driven terrorist act. You really think those guys pulled this off without local backup?

Even the victims’ families are saying it loud and clear—the terrorists were checking names, asking religious questions, doing identity filtering.

So again, what exactly is the ‘propaganda’ here? Sounds more like denial, or worse, deliberate deflection

Serious-Finger4635

when u see the first thing the ruling party does is ghiblify a tragic image of a person mourning over the dead body of their spouse to propagate communal trash you immediately know all the politicians in this country care about is how to retain their seat for another 5 years. There is no value of human lives, no accountability,  only trashy politics. The darkest part of this whole shitshow is that sufficient brain dead people exist in this country to feed into this trash and keep the politicians afloat.

Nirbhik

Thanks for sharing your story! Hope everyone is able to get through the tough times and perpetrators are brought to justice.

ThickStuff7459

If the things being said about “they checked my husband’s penis to make sure he wasn’t a Muslim, and then shot him” are true, the outrage is valid. Calling it propaganda is utter bullshit because now every Hindu is unsafe not because of where they come from or who they are but just because they are Hindus. If you say this is propaganda, then all the bad things about Israel being said literally everywhere are also propaganda. Killing because of difference in identity without any other motive has to be the scariest form of killing. It comes from an ideology of one person being superior than other just because they come from a different faith. You should be scared.

CrossSpy

"What’s circulating online is mostly propaganda" -&gt; What part? That they didn't ask for religion? So you have more idea than the actual victims?

"And the youth—how can they resist when all they want is to stay alive and support their families? These locals aren’t even seeing basic development. They're stuck in the cycle, not because they support it, but because survival leaves them no choice" -&gt; All Indians should get out of this saviour complex - "If only we did more development, things like this would not happen". Every new govt that comes in at Centre thinks the same and then fails. This is not true. There is a large majority that supports terrorism. It is not even a minority. How do I know - I belong to the place. I have suffered through this. So please take out this idealist view point of a region starved for development. It is a religious issue. Sitting in your comfy homes - it is very easy for you to comment. Don't teach us.   
  
They support it. They cover for it. Doesn't mean that they will not help tourists or there aren't good people who will go out of the way to help someone in need. But an overwhelming majority will not go against their own if it comes to that. There will be posturing. There will be performative declarations. But the bottom line is that this is Islamic terrorism. It has overwhelming support in Kashmir.

chuck_norris08

Jammu is support to be high secure zone, and intelligence should've seen this coming I really don't in what's happening here.

Narrow-Finding-2547

https://preview.redd.it/ipdj3p9cxlwe1.jpeg?width=1125&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=22eb118347110b712004e6fcfd6fa1d0ca08ed67

The Home Ministry has been very complacent about matters of national security.

A_Certain_Monk

It was a terrorist attack. Its time for the nation to unite. But people here are going on and on about indian government. Its NOT a political issue. Stop fighting amongst ourselves. 

Affectionate_Arm3371

This is not a case of Hindu-Muslim, this is a case of absolute failure of our information agencies. They were clueless about such a big attack. What are they even doing? Secret services for no reason. No accountability of local administration? 

Media not highlighting such a big failure from our administration.

Aarvy271

Exactly it's baffling and surprising to have zero security in that region.

It's a total failure and disaster of govt and intelligence,it seems like they are waiting for something like this.

tera_chachu

TheStormStryker

So what we should do now? 
We all know that locals kind of have some perticular leaning and govt after govts have failed to prune those leaning and people across the borders give more fuel to those.

And locals were helpful? As many terrorists come from across the border almost same or may be more numbers come from locals.(acc to previous history)

Not condoning any mistakes of the govt. They are most responsible.(failure of intelligence and many important points that you yourself have mentioned)

But here they are not attacking some govt institution? It’s class of people (a particular at that one) Hindu Tourists.

Massive_Technician98

What happened in Pahalgam is tragic and terrifying, no doubt. But I’m not sure what this post is really getting at.

If there was no police presence or emergency support, that’s squarely on the J&amp;K administration. Law and order is a state subject. And let’s address the obvious double standard: you can’t demand demilitarization to make Kashmir feel less "occupied," then blame the army for not being around when violence happens. That’s pure hypocrisy.

Yes, intelligence may have failed here, but no intelligence system is error-proof. Pretending otherwise is naive. For every attack that slips through, hundreds are stopped silently, especially in J&amp;K, where threats come from both local networks and cross-border support.

And this part. “hold accountable the ones who create conditions where terror thrives”. what does that even mean? Are you seriously saying Indian authorities are to blame, not the terrorists who actually committed the attack? That’s not just unfair, it’s dangerous reasoning.

The locals stepped up, and that’s admirable. Even though I said earlier that the J&amp;K admin is responsible for law and order, security, and development take time, especially in a region as sensitive and complex as this. This isn’t negligence. It’s a result of walking a tightrope in a conflict-sensitive region.

Edit: Some commenters have mentioned that since J&amp;K is a UT, law and order falls under the centre. That is true, but not directly. Law and Order in UTs is overseen by a Lt. Gen, who is appointed by the President. In this case, that would be Lt. Gen Manoj Sinha. Additionally, as I stated in the last part of my response above, it is not entirely fair to place all the blame on the J&amp;K admin either, as this region is conflict-sensitive. Having said that, that's not my main contention with the OP. Not sure why only this part is being focused on. Weird.

jittarao

This govt is indulging in cost-cutting in every domain, including defense. Yesterday Col. Bakshi rebuked this govt policy of stopping proper recruitment in army post covid and then we have this shit-show called 'Agniveer' as if you are going to lay down their life for a salary which is equivalent to a stipend.

Almondsniffer40

Glad you and your family are safe, OP. I can't comment on the security but one thing I can agree with you is how hospitable locals are, especially towards tourists. If you think about it, they are the ones who are suffering the most.

LeatherAndChai

Btw, the place where this happened is way up. It's baisaran valley. I went exact same place last year.

There are 2 ways to go up. Either by pony rides or just trek. Pony ride might take 2-3 hours. Normal trek takes 2 hours.

Me and my brother trekked up 2 hours. So it was that up.

I might not go back again ever in Kashmir.

tejas3732

The fact such war prone areas should have high security and restricted for tourists.

JustARandomGirl4

Good god i cant even fathom the scars the people there must have

tarundham

 What propaganda are you talking about? People were being shot for being non Muslims. This is just sad that such posts are allowed here. Idk how you guys can turn the narratives.

ProfessionalMovie759

no security?? wtf!!! failure of system and politicians not taking any sort of accountability for this failure.

KramerDwight

Why aren't Amit Shah and Ajit Doval resigning. This is a serious lapse in security. If Me or you fuck up big time in our jobs we'd be promptly fired. Why do ministers get job security inspite of their absolute incompetency. This is absolute BS. AMIT SHAH SHOULD RESIGN OR BE FIRED.

drick121

My father was in Pahalgam the exact same day of the incident. Luckily he didn’t go to Baisaran because it needs a trek/horse ride and he is 66 years old. He is fond of travelling - he wanted to visit Kashmir again for the tulip season. 

Army presence has been reduced significantly in Kashmir over the last few years. Those who are actively serving, can confirm that they were expecting an attack to happen sooner rather than later. 

They have taken strong measures against Pakistan by abetting the Indus water treaty. I see a lot of folks condemning the attacks. The locals will suffer the most - their economy will take a massive hit.  

Imagine living in a country where you can’t even travel safely. If you do star gazing at night, you are r*ped. If you set up a tent in a forest, you are r*ped and murdered. Instead of going to enjoy nature, you go to a tourist spot with 5k people within 5 kms, you are shot dead. Go to a beach state, and the cab union will rip you off. No need to imagine - it is everyone’s reality in India. 

Tourism in India is a joke - it is minimal value for money, unsafe and underwhelming. The whole trek to Baisaran is risky and dangerous. In other countries, there are proper trek paths. Above all, in which country do you demand for army to be present in a tourist spot? 

If you try to get away from the crowd, you will likely die. If you stay in the crowd, you carry the risk of dying in a stampede. The amount of filth we leave in tourist spots is nauseating. We scream at each other and on phones in the presence of others, as if that is our right. 

When you vote the next time, think of all this instead of silly things like Kannada vs Hindi. The ones protecting you at the border are doing it irrespective of the language that you speak. Most people don’t realise it, and that is why we are where we are. 

We vote for people who are just like us, and hence we get the governance that we deserve.

polite_scrawler

Damn bringing out the big guns to change the narrative and propaganda.

Next step:
It was all peaceful.

Brahmin terrorists came and killed Dalits  after checking caste certificates .

Edit:
Boohoo. Youth needs development…. storyline

Can you image what would have happened if Osama bin Laden was educated?

sardinoboy

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Pahalgam

Key_Wall9244

So, asking for religion &amp; selectively murdering of everyone except 1 faith, looking at penis to check for circumcision, asking to recite islamic verse &amp; then killing anyone not following these is propaganda? 



Blame government, 100%, this was an intelligence failure, but don't deny the facts that this was a religiously targetted massacre.

Hrit33

You really such a big attack happened without the help of locals ?


Out of the attackers 2 were locals as well !!


Many good Kashmiris maybe there but don't forget the terrorist and we need to be strict with them .


Many people have started saying this was an Inside job and bjp did it and God knows what goes in there mind . 


Do you guys have shame or not ? 

InterestingEngine305

The problem is secular people who are not accepting that innocents were killed because they were Hindu. It's not about communal hatred. My army friend's friend got killed just because he was Hindu so yes there is religious angle. I understand local supported the tourists but as per Army(you can check statement) this kind of attack is not possible without local support. Just once keep your emotions side, forget govt and just ask this question do they deserve to be killed just because they were Hindu?
There is no shame denying the fact that all these terrorists came to show other religions what they are. Same thing they did with Kashmiri pandits and if people really worried about this communal tension lets ask majority muslim people to change their society first.

nikita1712

BUT - you're saying the terrorists and the party that funds terrorism is not to be blamed? You think these barbarians wouldn't strike if there was security?

Sanjanadash7

And we’re supposed to trust this Reddit post. How is this not propaganda?

gottic

PS Thank you for this field report from beautiful Kashmir... horrible drama !

But looks  like this was..allowed to happen ?!? Typical pattern during such attacks.

Namaste, greetings from  Polska to Indian people.

RayonsVert

If you put more military boots on the ground people cry about why so many, the most militarised zone in the world, locals living in fear etc. And now that there is a terrorist attack you want security every 2 metres from you.

calvinspiff

WhatsApp groups are already flooded with omar abdullah is CM and security was his job. Govt job was to safeguard LOC. Internal security is with CM. And ppl are believing that.

Society groups are considering denying entry for any sort of labour work for a particular community going forward. Those who wanted this gap to be created were successful. Plan is working.

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