The public opinion on the Indus Waters Treaty tension post-Pahalgam terror attack is predominantly negative, filled with skepticism, distrust, and concern over potential escalation. Many express doubts about India's motivations, suspecting opportunism or false flag operations. Criticisms are levied against the Indian government for perceived intelligence and security oversights, while anger towards Pakistan's alleged historical support of terrorism is evident. Concerns also exist over the security of tourists, the effectiveness of diplomatic solutions, and the geopolitical ramifications for both nations. The discussion highlights a complicated mix of national pride, geopolitical theory, and human tragedy.

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GeoIndModBot

China can't do anything even if it was not occupied  by the so-called trade war.
India can construct dams in chenab and jhelum. Both sources are in india. Indus india doesn't even use so nothing china can do that will affect india. Brahmaputra's volume increases in india only also the people who are dependent on brahmaputra are very low. Only people who will be affected would be banglus.

Bhenjo_Chloride

Real world impact. 
1) india will build dam aggresive without thinking about any prior condition. Already indian has build many dams and many projects are in middle 

2) more water can be provided to Jammu and ladak region and further diverted to punjab and other others region which is already suffering from water shortage. 

3) If india don't reverse this decision then in coming years we will see very very bad effect on pakistan. There 84 percent rural population dependent on this

BROWN-MUNDA_

There is no reason to immediately build anything. Just backing away from the treaty is bad for Pakistan.

Let me explain a bit about how generous the treaty is to Pakistan.

Satluj, Beas, Yamuna, all flow in Himachal Pradesh. You know what the largest river in HP is? Chenab.

All for Pakistan according to IWT. The river literally drains through the largest freshwater sources in HP, Ladakh, and Kashmir but cannot be used locally in any capacity. All so that the water in its entirety can be given to Pakistan.

Indus needs no introduction either. It has a similar story.

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Let's talk about China now. 

China butting into the Indus in any capacity would be bad for Pakistan. It essentially forces a realignment of Indus treaty. 

But it's not that big an issue for India, because China haven't played along ever on water issues. Their position has always been (minus the diplomatic speak) that they will use the rivers as much as they want. If they had a way to use the Indus today, they'd build a dam on it. Same for Brahmaputra.

As things stand, none of the Indian regions will be too badly affected by this change since the necessary water flow for NE can come from dams on the Brahmaputra and easily filled during the monsoons.

That's not to say there is no effect. Some smaller channels of Brahmaputra that naturally flowed into the NE have been cut off, causing some local livelihood issues. However, a good portion of that has been (is being) dealt with by some economic diversification.

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Response from US or other players remains to be seen. They are more likely to be on the side of keeping the status quo and using secondary tactics to placate India. This front is essentially a wait and watch thing.

HAHAHA-Idiot

its not suspended. in abeyance. legal distinction. we wont stop water but can stop sharing flow data or delay sharing. has economic impact as planning becomes difficult.
i think this is an economic lever.

just one of many levers we can pull. better than kinetic approach. defeat thru lawfare.

lolw0lf

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Nothing will happen, because nothing ever happens.

Beneficial_Big7595

It's not suspended but being held in abeyance until Pakistan "credibly and irrevocably abjures its support for cross border terrorism". I don't know what they specifically mean by that though.

armallahR1

What happened in Kashmir is purely sad. Even the locals mourned it. There are differences and disagreements, but killing innocents is just vile. I disagree with what BLA is doing to innocent people And I definitely disagree with what happened in Kashmir.

Williamweasley

Do the irrefutable proof that it was carried out by Pakistan's support. Reads like something they have always wanted to do.

BroadRefuse

desolatoration

What does this mean for the ordinary Pakistani and the industry? Any effects?

arhamshaikhhh

They already knew we were having and would face problems with water, so they decided to do this on purpose to make things worse! Well, what else could we expect!

Top_Masterpiece_2053

India's response to Pahalgam attack appears less like a security protocol and more like a **coordinated political theatre** — rushed, disproportionate, and suspiciously convenient. No investigative findings have been made public, yet India has revoked all visas issued to Pakistani citizens, expelled diplomatic staff, reduced the Pakistani mission size by nearly half, and urged ICC to keep Pakistan out of future tournament groupings. This is **not a diplomatic response — it’s a manufactured escalation**.

But wait! We’ve seen this playbook before:   
\- Pulwama (2019)  
\- Pathankot (2016)  
\- Uri (2016)  
Each time, **Pakistan was blamed within hours**, and each time, **no international or transparent investigation was allowed**. Instead, public sentiment was inflamed, elections were won, and domestic crises were pushed out of headlines. Now once again, the pattern repeats itself—with one glaring possibility:   
  
**\[This could very well be a false-flag operation**, designed to serve **political, electoral, or military objectives.\]**

And let’s not just pretend these tactics are beneath states. History shows that governments, especially those with declining democratic norms, **have staged incidents** to:

* Justify diplomatic hostility or war posturing
* Distract from economic or political failures
* Galvanize public support through fear and nationalism
* Silence dissent by presenting an external threat

Even more troubling is the **collective punishment imposed on ordinary Pakistanis**:

* Visas cancelled, even under SAARC—a treaty India is bound to respect
* Patients, students, scholars, and pilgrims targeted indiscriminately
* Diplomatic staff treated like enemies, not counterparts

If India genuinely believed Pakistan was responsible, why avoid a third-party investigation? Why rush punitive actions instead of evidence collection? The answer lie in the **political utility** of conflict with Pakistan — it serves as a **reliable distraction** and a **nationalist adrenaline shot** for domestic audiences.

What’s also telling is the **hypocrisy in India’s geopolitical posture**. When Pakistan is made to be involved, India adopts the role of regional hegemon, issuing ultimatums and cutting ties. But when the **real giant —China — asserts itself**, India suddenly looks to the US, Quad, or other global players for support, never daring to apply the same bold aggression. That double standard exposes the **strategic bullying** at play.

I'm gonna call what it is: **selective aggression, potentially built on a lie**, and dangerously normalized under the guise of “national security.”

tormenturator

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They blame anything and everything on Pakistan even without proof.

musingmarkhor

And there it is. False flag to force the issue.

Jade_Rook

So now India will turn off water like it's a tap. Band kardo bhai, if you can. Indus River system is a natural waterway.

PAKISTANIRAMBO

looks like this is what they wanted all along: false flag operation.

ISBRogue

so that was their whole plan eh. to let this terrorist attack happen and then use this as a justification to end the treaty.

Grand-Rule9068

Lol everyone on this sub who was saying 'why are posts about the Pahalgam attacks being posted here, it's India's problem not ours' ...ab araam hai? Things will get worse. There will be retaliatiory attacks. Everyone on either side of the border is going to be affected by the aftermath. Sigh.

RevolutionaryMap8820

Are mods fucking sleeping? Stop this brigading of Indians!

ImportantCheck6236

Pretty much shows what they wanted to do in the first place. A false flag operation to suspend the treaty.

Silver-Shadow2006

Modibots are here with a vengeance. Don't engage them.

googo1

They were planning to suspend it before, so they staged a false flag.

archestro

Why is India written as I\*ndia in the title of this post? Is there a rule in this subreddit that India cannot be mentioned in a title of a post? If so, then why is there such a rule? Does anyone know?

Polaris_northstar

It's a sanctioned treaty under UN and the World Bank, they cannot unilaterally abandon it. It's a gimmick pulled by their right-wing government to earn political points in the eyes of indians who are agitating for a hard measure. They will come to their senses shortly.

Ok-Maximum-8407

Hostile_Insurgent_47

rofl, this is gonna be another iran moment.

nothing ever happens.

Deadlyname1909

We need to work with China, expand nuclear power dramatically, and start desalination plants ASAP

BuffettsBrother

flysaad90

Why are you putting an asterisk, India is not a censored word on Reddit

nomiinomii

What are the moderators of this subreddit doing. The comments are filled with indians, Ban them immediately. They literally are cancelling the indus water treaty and this could escalate very quickly in the coming days. Moderators need to wake up, and kick out the ones famous for smelling bad around the world.

moneybuyspower

Is the Indian army so incompetent? They have a million soldiers lined up across occupied Kashmir and yet this so called act of terror has happened. 
There army must be asleep along the LOC!

pughlaa

No wonder why every neighbor of India hates them.

wrapcannon

Baycharo ki kali gand mein dum nahi tha militarily tou yehi ker sakte thay. Pakistanis should better start some good water management and salination as we have a bully next door.

witchkingofangmar777

One more "truck ki batti". Lag jao sab iskey peechey ab, yaaaayyy!!

fivethirtyfiveam

idontlikenwas

So where the hell were the boys when jaffar express incident happened. Despite everyone knowing who was funding the incident.

taimoor09

Pure-Raise8350

What happened what was the main starting point of this heat up ?

Parking-Sun-8979

This is after all why india continues to occupy Kashmir, they control our water source. They’ve wanted to make the IWT bilateral for a while now and Pakistan rightfully refused. 

Regardless of what anyone believes, the water wars are coming and we don’t seem to be preparing for it. There’s no diplomacy when it happens.

noshiet2

The treaty can’t be unilaterally suspended sadly.

bharikeemat

Even if the tourists were killed by muslims how does that mean that pakistan was involved in it. There are muslims in india as well. Such unnecessary hate

Brushandshade

Does that mean we won't have floods anymore? Maybe India is doing us a favor.

Good_as_any

Most important is the nature of killing....
1. They asked their name.
2. Identification ( of kafirs).
3. Terrorists used ways to make sure they are killing non muslim only.
4. Asked to offer namaz.

Failed....shoot. :(

Medical-Newspaper896

They have been trying to do this for a long time under Modi . Isn't it convenient they got this attack just to then pull this

Consistent-booper

The treaty had survived three major wars as well as cross border terrorism since 1960. Pakistan has never taken responsibility for terror activities in India. Yet, most of the deadliest terror outfits and terrorists have found safe heaven there. The world is not blind. If india is daring to touch the IWT, that means it’s time for Pakistani peace loving population to clean the house and do it fast. If the Indus River system water is impacted, Pakistan’s economy will be down the drain. So Pakistan has clear choices, and it should choose wisely.

UP2ON

Senior-Error-5144

I really hope not but most probably PAAK Fauj is behind this. In two years or so their reputation has tanked faster than the twin towers so they will try to use this to better their reputation.. you know we are fighting and India is our enemy and Kashmir.. all that masala

zenitsu_wayne

As I wait for my friend's cremation ceremony tomorrow, there's no other thought that crosses my mind than to imagine what he must have felt at that moment. The last thing he saw before it all happened. He had so much potential and so much to live for, taken away from us, so cruelly. I keep thinking of the what ifs - what if he had just not planned to visit Kashmir, what if he had gone a day earlier or planned for later..what if he had gone an hour before or planned for later. Somehow, it seems like his fate led him there and that's the only thing that helps me make a little sense of what has happened. I have become numb to everything being shown on media and elsewhere - the truth of the hour is - when you lose someone to tragedies like this, nothing matters. We always talk about "justice" and "revenge", but those don't bring the person back. I still cannot believe that he is no more, this has been a nightmare and a very cruel one at that. There's no place in rotten hell for people who did this to him. I'm not one to post on reddit often, but I wanted to do so because I don't want my friend to become another statistic that becomes forgotton as time passes. I know we quickly become desensetized to things like this, but we need to remember that the victims were real people who mattered and deserved to live, and did nothing wrong by being there. His life mattered, and we will never be able to fill the void that he has left behind. I'm not sure on when he will receive justice, but I do hope that he finds the peace he went to look for.

dri_dri_

How in the world is there 0 security? I mean the airport has more security than a freaking conflict zone.

thegamer720x

I’m still in Kashmir and our original plan was to go to Pahalgam tomorrow. We visited Sonmarg on Monday and Gulmarg yesterday. There were army personnel stationed every 5 minutes along the road in Sonmarg when we rode in car to the Thajiwas glacier base point. But once we reached the spot where local people crowd to haggle with tourists, there were no army or police in sight any further. Gulmarg had very few army in sight along the way though we got to see CRPF convoy vans frequently but again none at the tourist point or further along the ride in ATV. I guess the same would have been the case with Baisaran as well. I feel at least a couple of police or army should have been there at a place where over 3000 tourists are present at a time. That’s a major security lapse.

JobGroundbreaking752

Thank you for sharing the on-ground reality. Much needed in this time

Complex_Feedback_748

This is heartbreaking. I was in Kashmir last year around Independence Day, and I remember feeling constantly on edge. Even though the locals were kind and incredibly helpful, I couldn’t shake off the fear. Just two days before one of our outings, we found out there had been a militant shot down in the area—but no one told us at the time. The stories I heard later were honestly terrifying. It’s scary how fragile safety can be

Puzzled-Noise-

I was curious about this - This isn't something that happened over seconds or minutes, why was the response time so poor? In such a high-tension area, so much chest thumping done daily about our military, but how come it took so long for a response?

Advanced_Tangelo

I have been saying this since yesterday, how the hell does something like this happen in such a popular and crowded tourist spot with no security presence whatsoever? Total intelligence and security failure. This isn’t some hidden trail in the mountains, it’s a major tourist hub. The terrorists managed to get in, attack and murder civilians, cause this much damage and escape without being intercepted. I mean, wtf!!! How were there no alerts, no officers, nothing? 


Absolute shame on those responsible for keeping the area safe. This is not just a lapse, it's negligence. 


There have been people saying stuff like “they only have to get lucky once” to cover up the intelligence failure of the government  but it's the government’s job to make sure they never get that chance. It’s their job to stop these “one-time” wins before they happen, especially in high-risk areas like this. If we keep brushing off every failure with “they only have to win once,” we’re basically saying we should just accept this as normal. That’s not acceptable.


And huge respect to the locals who stepped up. They probably saved dozens of lives just by keeping everyone calm and getting people out.

Mayor_McCheese7

Why no one's holding the government accountable??? Everyone's using this to justify their hatred for communal harmony. This is NOT a political issue, this is a NATIONAL ISSUE and must be treated as such. This is a threat to our security. Time to put aside political beliefs and face this crisis as a nation.

boomboombakdan

Glad you are okay my guy. Take some rest and have a breather, people take out their time for their vacations only to suffer at times like these. Kudos to the locals for handling it calmly but tourism is gonna cripple no matter what. 

If tourists are not safe, same can be extended to the locals. Did things even changed over the years?

Ligma_Sugmi

But i'd still say Sonmarg still had better army presence than the " mini Switzerland ". Pehelgam also has apt army presence but the " mini Switzerland " is completely isolated. No vehicle can go there, you need to go there via horse, atv or helicopter. They planned and attacked the position that is tough to reach with little to no security. Compared to that Sonmarg for the most part has security at every tourist location.

isthisneeded29

I was there a month back, there’s zero security at the scenic places. My heart goes for the families who lost their loved ones. The heart aches for Kashmiri’s as well, they were all kind and lovely to us. My driver there said, “ab idhar pathar koi nahi utha ta.” 
Their economy who’s heavily dependent on tourism will definitely take some hit. 
My father, an army veteran, was afraid when I told him I’m going to Pahalgam (I was not aware then that it comes in Anantnag or in Pulwama district both of which are terrorist prone areas). He explicitly asked me not to tell anyone that I’m a son of an army personnel or even get involved in political discussions. Now I know why. 
For the first time I a 32 year old is realising that I’m not safe in a particular territory of my own country. 
The heart feels sorry for the lost soles, the heart aches because I’m helpless and can’t do anything, it’s also filled with rage because people like you and me will forget what has happened, log fir wahi language and caste ka mudda bana lenge, but the heart demands - ankh k badle ankh. 
Kill all those terrorists, kill all who were involved whether they are here in India or anywhere else. 

We want justice and not condolences. 💐.

PlumForsaken4124

I was in Kashmir in February last year and what you said is true about lack of security. 

Srinagar is very heavily guarded and checks happen so often. 
But when you go out of Srinagar, you are on your own. 
I mean, it’s a valley and there are millions of dark spots. 

Most of the locals are good and welcoming and they are part of the typical tourist industry.
But you can tell that none of them want to belong to India or be identified as Indians. They hate us.

Srihari_stan

I had been to Palagham couple of years ago. My father was a former central govt employee in Ministry of home affairs. My understanding is army/CISF are deployed at strategic locations. Others are often at checkpoints. It’s not humanly possible to cover all of Kashmir. Rmbr Kashmiri’s are already fed up of army all over the town. From what I sense it’s a failure on the part of intelligence.

srinivazzi

I don't get what you are saying completely. Maybe my comprehension is bad.
But Two things are true. 
1. Terrorists are the main culprit here and not a religion or a region.
2. Intelligence of Indian government they so much boast about failed.

Also I have been to kashmir and all it's famous places atleast twice in last two years and number of security personnel has never been an issue. Our driver who is a kashmiri, always almost gets irritated while taking us to these places due to extra convoys and military halts that causes inconvenience to local but I am not faulting army here as they have their protocols.

So I don't get your point about less security. As per my experience there is ample security in all tourist places and on main roads. You can't have soldier on every door and that is something locals detest even more and I can comprehend why.
Yes baisaran valley is an exception where there is no security and there wasnt any even when i visited. and that is where the intelligence comes into play and where failure happened. There are soldiers in betab valley ,aaru valley, and other major attractions in pahalgam always.

Also all the kashmiris in these tourist area are tourism dependent and are truthful people. So no surprise they helped.

dragonsaredead

But the majority of our population doesn't care about facts. They are using this as an excuse to bring out their hidden venom and hatred. They deliberately combine the sample with the ensemble (aka composition fallacy) to stereotype a whole religious group. This country is doomed.

Fooled-by-Randomness

when u see the first thing the ruling party does is ghiblify a tragic image of a person mourning over the dead body of their spouse to propagate communal trash you immediately know all the politicians in this country care about is how to retain their seat for another 5 years. There is no value of human lives, no accountability,  only trashy politics. The darkest part of this whole shitshow is that sufficient brain dead people exist in this country to feed into this trash and keep the politicians afloat.

Nirbhik

Yeah, it’s a massive security failure—no denying that. And let’s be real, Indian intel feels like it’s running on fumes right now. Modi can’t keep dodging accountability forever.

But hold up—what ‘propaganda’ are you talking about exactly? Why so scared to call it what it is? This was clearly a religion-driven terrorist act. You really think those guys pulled this off without local backup?

Even the victims’ families are saying it loud and clear—the terrorists were checking names, asking religious questions, doing identity filtering.

So again, what exactly is the ‘propaganda’ here? Sounds more like denial, or worse, deliberate deflection

Serious-Finger4635

Thanks for sharing your story! Hope everyone is able to get through the tough times and perpetrators are brought to justice.

ThickStuff7459

If the things being said about “they checked my husband’s penis to make sure he wasn’t a Muslim, and then shot him” are true, the outrage is valid. Calling it propaganda is utter bullshit because now every Hindu is unsafe not because of where they come from or who they are but just because they are Hindus. If you say this is propaganda, then all the bad things about Israel being said literally everywhere are also propaganda. Killing because of difference in identity without any other motive has to be the scariest form of killing. It comes from an ideology of one person being superior than other just because they come from a different faith. You should be scared.

CrossSpy

"What’s circulating online is mostly propaganda" -&gt; What part? That they didn't ask for religion? So you have more idea than the actual victims?

"And the youth—how can they resist when all they want is to stay alive and support their families? These locals aren’t even seeing basic development. They're stuck in the cycle, not because they support it, but because survival leaves them no choice" -&gt; All Indians should get out of this saviour complex - "If only we did more development, things like this would not happen". Every new govt that comes in at Centre thinks the same and then fails. This is not true. There is a large majority that supports terrorism. It is not even a minority. How do I know - I belong to the place. I have suffered through this. So please take out this idealist view point of a region starved for development. It is a religious issue. Sitting in your comfy homes - it is very easy for you to comment. Don't teach us.   
  
They support it. They cover for it. Doesn't mean that they will not help tourists or there aren't good people who will go out of the way to help someone in need. But an overwhelming majority will not go against their own if it comes to that. There will be posturing. There will be performative declarations. But the bottom line is that this is Islamic terrorism. It has overwhelming support in Kashmir.

chuck_norris08

Jammu is support to be high secure zone, and intelligence should've seen this coming I really don't in what's happening here.

Narrow-Finding-2547

https://preview.redd.it/ipdj3p9cxlwe1.jpeg?width=1125&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=22eb118347110b712004e6fcfd6fa1d0ca08ed67

The Home Ministry has been very complacent about matters of national security.

A_Certain_Monk

It was a terrorist attack. Its time for the nation to unite. But people here are going on and on about indian government. Its NOT a political issue. Stop fighting amongst ourselves. 

Affectionate_Arm3371

This is not a case of Hindu-Muslim, this is a case of absolute failure of our information agencies. They were clueless about such a big attack. What are they even doing? Secret services for no reason. No accountability of local administration? 

Media not highlighting such a big failure from our administration.

Aarvy271

Exactly it's baffling and surprising to have zero security in that region.

It's a total failure and disaster of govt and intelligence,it seems like they are waiting for something like this.

tera_chachu

TheStormStryker

So what we should do now? 
We all know that locals kind of have some perticular leaning and govt after govts have failed to prune those leaning and people across the borders give more fuel to those.

And locals were helpful? As many terrorists come from across the border almost same or may be more numbers come from locals.(acc to previous history)

Not condoning any mistakes of the govt. They are most responsible.(failure of intelligence and many important points that you yourself have mentioned)

But here they are not attacking some govt institution? It’s class of people (a particular at that one) Hindu Tourists.

Massive_Technician98

This govt is indulging in cost-cutting in every domain, including defense. Yesterday Col. Bakshi rebuked this govt policy of stopping proper recruitment in army post covid and then we have this shit-show called 'Agniveer' as if you are going to lay down their life for a salary which is equivalent to a stipend.

Almondsniffer40

What happened in Pahalgam is tragic and terrifying, no doubt. But I’m not sure what this post is really getting at.

If there was no police presence or emergency support, that’s squarely on the J&amp;K administration. Law and order is a state subject. And let’s address the obvious double standard: you can’t demand demilitarization to make Kashmir feel less "occupied," then blame the army for not being around when violence happens. That’s pure hypocrisy.

Yes, intelligence may have failed here, but no intelligence system is error-proof. Pretending otherwise is naive. For every attack that slips through, hundreds are stopped silently, especially in J&amp;K, where threats come from both local networks and cross-border support.

And this part. “hold accountable the ones who create conditions where terror thrives”. what does that even mean? Are you seriously saying Indian authorities are to blame, not the terrorists who actually committed the attack? That’s not just unfair, it’s dangerous reasoning.

The locals stepped up, and that’s admirable. Even though I said earlier that the J&amp;K admin is responsible for law and order, security, and development take time, especially in a region as sensitive and complex as this. This isn’t negligence. It’s a result of walking a tightrope in a conflict-sensitive region.

Edit: Some commenters have mentioned that since J&amp;K is a UT, law and order falls under the centre. That is true, but not directly. Law and Order in UTs is overseen by a Lt. Gen, who is appointed by the President. In this case, that would be Lt. Gen Manoj Sinha. Additionally, as I stated in the last part of my response above, it is not entirely fair to place all the blame on the J&amp;K admin either, as this region is conflict-sensitive. Having said that, that's not my main contention with the OP. Not sure why only this part is being focused on. Weird.

jittarao

So, asking for religion &amp; selectively murdering of everyone except 1 faith, looking at penis to check for circumcision, asking to recite islamic verse &amp; then killing anyone not following these is propaganda? 



Blame government, 100%, this was an intelligence failure, but don't deny the facts that this was a religiously targetted massacre.

Hrit33

Glad you and your family are safe, OP. I can't comment on the security but one thing I can agree with you is how hospitable locals are, especially towards tourists. If you think about it, they are the ones who are suffering the most.

LeatherAndChai

Btw, the place where this happened is way up. It's baisaran valley. I went exact same place last year.

There are 2 ways to go up. Either by pony rides or just trek. Pony ride might take 2-3 hours. Normal trek takes 2 hours.

Me and my brother trekked up 2 hours. So it was that up.

I might not go back again ever in Kashmir.

tejas3732

The fact such war prone areas should have high security and restricted for tourists.

JustARandomGirl4

Good god i cant even fathom the scars the people there must have

tarundham

 What propaganda are you talking about? People were being shot for being non Muslims. This is just sad that such posts are allowed here. Idk how you guys can turn the narratives.

ProfessionalMovie759

no security?? wtf!!! failure of system and politicians not taking any sort of accountability for this failure.

KramerDwight

Why aren't Amit Shah and Ajit Doval resigning. This is a serious lapse in security. If Me or you fuck up big time in our jobs we'd be promptly fired. Why do ministers get job security inspite of their absolute incompetency. This is absolute BS. AMIT SHAH SHOULD RESIGN OR BE FIRED.

drick121

My father was in Pahalgam the exact same day of the incident. Luckily he didn’t go to Baisaran because it needs a trek/horse ride and he is 66 years old. He is fond of travelling - he wanted to visit Kashmir again for the tulip season. 

Army presence has been reduced significantly in Kashmir over the last few years. Those who are actively serving, can confirm that they were expecting an attack to happen sooner rather than later. 

They have taken strong measures against Pakistan by abetting the Indus water treaty. I see a lot of folks condemning the attacks. The locals will suffer the most - their economy will take a massive hit.  

Imagine living in a country where you can’t even travel safely. If you do star gazing at night, you are r*ped. If you set up a tent in a forest, you are r*ped and murdered. Instead of going to enjoy nature, you go to a tourist spot with 5k people within 5 kms, you are shot dead. Go to a beach state, and the cab union will rip you off. No need to imagine - it is everyone’s reality in India. 

Tourism in India is a joke - it is minimal value for money, unsafe and underwhelming. The whole trek to Baisaran is risky and dangerous. In other countries, there are proper trek paths. Above all, in which country do you demand for army to be present in a tourist spot? 

If you try to get away from the crowd, you will likely die. If you stay in the crowd, you carry the risk of dying in a stampede. The amount of filth we leave in tourist spots is nauseating. We scream at each other and on phones in the presence of others, as if that is our right. 

When you vote the next time, think of all this instead of silly things like Kannada vs Hindi. The ones protecting you at the border are doing it irrespective of the language that you speak. Most people don’t realise it, and that is why we are where we are. 

We vote for people who are just like us, and hence we get the governance that we deserve.

polite_scrawler

We are short of 200,000 ( 2 Lakh) full time soldiers in our nation, in the name of budget cuts. Government has no money to protect the nation. What do you expect.

Interesting_One_2899

Damn bringing out the big guns to change the narrative and propaganda.

Next step:
It was all peaceful.

Brahmin terrorists came and killed Dalits  after checking caste certificates .

Edit:
Boohoo. Youth needs development…. storyline

Can you image what would have happened if Osama bin Laden was educated?

sardinoboy

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Pahalgam

Key_Wall9244

You really such a big attack happened without the help of locals ?


Out of the attackers 2 were locals as well !!


Many good Kashmiris maybe there but don't forget the terrorist and we need to be strict with them .


Many people have started saying this was an Inside job and bjp did it and God knows what goes in there mind . 


Do you guys have shame or not ? 

InterestingEngine305

The problem is secular people who are not accepting that innocents were killed because they were Hindu. It's not about communal hatred. My army friend's friend got killed just because he was Hindu so yes there is religious angle. I understand local supported the tourists but as per Army(you can check statement) this kind of attack is not possible without local support. Just once keep your emotions side, forget govt and just ask this question do they deserve to be killed just because they were Hindu?
There is no shame denying the fact that all these terrorists came to show other religions what they are. Same thing they did with Kashmiri pandits and if people really worried about this communal tension lets ask majority muslim people to change their society first.

nikita1712

The news centers on heightened tensions between India and Pakistan following the Pahalgam terror attack in which 26 people, including tourists, died. The attack has been condemned by the UN Security Council, though criticisms arose over the lack of direct attribution to groups like The Resistance Front. Pakistan's political leader Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari made inflammatory remarks about the Indus Waters Treaty, threatening that blood would flow if water was diverted. Indian leaders, including Pawan Kalyan and Asaduddin Owaisi, have strongly reacted, criticizing Pakistan's stance and recalling Pakistan's struggles with terrorism, including the assassination of Benazir Bhutto. The situation is exacerbating diplomatic relations, with suggestions for India to escalate the issue at international forums like the UN General Assembly.

Indus Waters Treaty Tension after Pahalgam Terror Attack

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