Public opinion is marked by concerns about potential water scarcity and heightened geopolitical tensions following discussions to renegotiate the Indus Waters Treaty. The discourse highlights India's drive to adapt the agreement to current issues such as climate change and evolving political dynamics. However, skepticism prevails regarding the feasibility of such changes given existing infrastructure constraints, and fears are expressed over the potential for escalating conflict between India and Pakistan.

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Comments are at the extreme.  Like, India will make Pakistan starve for water, and Pakistan will have millions dying.

I don't think none of this will happen.  India, can't just stop the water from going to Pakistan (regardless of the argument of who owns it, who should use it, etc), just considering the sheer volume of the waters.  

Also, India will not play with the livelihood of millions of people who have been living by the rivers for ages (regardless of their country hood).  It is entirely unfathomable.

I think India's intention in updating the treaty 

1. To include climate change effects and contemporary changes and add/update SOPs accordingly.
2. Ironing out terminologies (removing loopholes) for quicker and amicable conflict resolution.
3. Ensure conflicts (delaying tactics or genuine issues) are resolved between two parties only.
4. Enforce Pakistan to build more dams by limiting the water - India can finally prove to Pakistan that they are indeed wasting water and with proper dams and canal system, Pakistan can survive and actually benefit.

curiousstrider

Submission statement

* 1. The existing treaty was signed in 1960 when India-Pakistan relations were not riddled with (open) hostilities and wars.
* 2. As per the current treaty, around 80% of water is used by Pakistan, and the rest 20% by India.
* 3. Most of the rivers in the treaty originate in India.
* 4. Looking at other similar examples, the countries with origins in the rivers have kept a bigger share. 
* 5. India's first PM Jawaharlal Nehru signed such a generous treaty and even agreed to provide grants (split over 10 years starting from 1960) to Pakistan to build canal systems.
* 6. This grant continued during and even after the 1965 war.
* 7. India's current PM Narendra Modi gave a statement that "Blood and water cannot flow together" in 2015.
* 8. Now, India seems to make the balance in how water is shared.

Never made sense that India signed away its water rights and I must say India and Pakistan havent ever been in good terms let alone when this was signed.

Nehru was an idealist and blind to the realities of the world. He signed it away hoping that it will pacify pakistan and its anxieties but guess what? India has been stuck without its most potent coercive weapon without breaking treaties it signed and lose legitimacy in the international state. India got nothing back as a gesture but be bled by a thousand cuts.

And Pakistan has been taking advantage of this situation by mobilizing militants saying India steals its water and also obstructing legal construction on the Indian side.

Now India is using loopholes in the treaty to potray Pakistan as not holding up its end and violating the treaty thereby nullifying the treaty.

As an Indian, I hope India wrests control of the rivers and give Pakistan access based on behaviour. A openly coercive weapon. Pakistan is neither militarily, diplomatically or economically able to counter that in the current situation. Now might just be the time with China staring at a downturn and international isolation.

Edit:https://theprint.in/diplomacy/why-india-wants-to-modify-indus-waters-treaty-with-pakistan/1338494/

This article is an excellent read to understand the current issue and Pakistan's mistake that has now allowed India to finish building the dams anyways while Pakistan dragged its feet by insisting on another arbitration court instead of progressing with an independent expert.

Now fait acompli and India wins in the short term atleast

PoorDeer

That was literally in the treaty, So no issue. 

Second - This won't really do much, India can't really stop the flow of water into Pakistan without risking a refugee crisis of millions of Pakistanis.

Longjumping_Meat_138

Doesn't india have some beef with china about water control issue? Would be tricky to pressure Pakistan while they will have similar issue with China.

genericpreparer

Sorry state of affairs with the way Reuters and Al Jazeera have done "journalism" on India Pak issues. I can understand indian media being heavily biased in the opposite direction with their silly "entertainment first" news but this amount of shithousery from international news sites? 

RationalPsycho42

As a gesture of goodwill, India agreed to give Pakistan 80% of the water under the IWT a deal many consider unfair. Despite wars &amp; provocations, India has consistently honored that treaty. So why is it unreasonable to now ask for a more balanced share, especially when India has a significantly larger population to support?

IamAdvikaaa

Blood and water will not flow together, stop the terrorism get the water

Parking_Ear8014

India should just donate a stable government to Pakistan. I think they need that more than water

smackythefrog

Conjaybro

No country is obligated to feed its enemies.  Pakistan is at fault for causing this situation with their attacks against India.

The-M0untain

Won't the monsoons make this impossible?  I don't know if the rivers at play are affected by them or not.

beached

They don’t need water 💧 

They are interested in rivers of honey 🍯.

shoppingdiscussions

Water wars have been coming for decades. Climate change will only accelerate it. 


  Mass cheap energy and desalination plants will help some areas survive, but many are gping to die.

UnionGuyCanada

KGN-Tian-CAi

brickyardjimmy

JKlerk

nateguo

This will be a humanitarian and ecological disaster. 

DentistCertain3897

Bigmoochcooch

Ah the water wars….we’ve been expecting you my friend (I know they started a while back).

realized_loss

What will happen on a bigger scale in the future: various countries will have water shortages and become unliveable, sparking mass migrations and civil unrest globally.

Water Wars are coming.

Captain-Obvious-69

This may be a bad precedent to set for us, what you do to others you can’t cry when others do the same to you.

Edit: Fellow Redditors - do you know there is another river in our country called the Brahmaputra - we are downstream and our lovely neighbours can block that water because they are allied with the military state on the left.

Sorry-Water-8530

gastro_psychic

lndigoChild

They already knew we were having and would face problems with water, so they decided to do this on purpose to make things worse! Well, what else could we expect!

Top_Masterpiece_2053

Who cares bro anything happens they blamed Pakistan 💀 tomorrow if modi has a son bro's will say it's caused by Pakistan

Basic_Conclusion7519

Guys, apart from silly jokes and stuff in the reply section, I want to discuss this issue of backing away from Indus water treaty.

Can someone discuss the consequences for India for breaking a 'binding' treaty? Will the international mediating powers start pursuing India to get back into following the treaty, or will India stay away from the treaty with impunity?

AbdullahJanSays

I get it, this is what’ll get them the local vote bank.

Altruistic-Owl5694

gimmick, i feel bad for the high commissioner tho, the guy's life must be hell shuttling back between explusion and reinstatement.

Ok-Maximum-8407

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India can't build a dam there. The terrain isn't fit enough to build a dam to stop water from going into Pakistan. And the river actually originates in china. China can also stop India's water. 

There is a reason why India hasn't built a dam there in 78 years.

LogicalPakistani

accousticuser69

Just Modi trying to gain some support. Nothing else.

albelaraahi

Let me order tea from the nearest quetta cafe.

Rust-here

1: where will india store the water . It has no reservoirs or dams to redirect the water. New dams will take at least a decade to build.

2: what this does is gives india impunity to build dams. Earlier it would gave needed world bank or pakistans permission. 

So no water flow into pakistan is not going to stop overnight but it may in some years

SnooCupcakes2611

If India tries to screw with Pakistan water supply, we are looking at a military response from Pakistan. May even go nuclear if need be. The Hindutva are morons trying to pick a fight with Pakistan.

Berserk123

Clark718

Pak should go to China and ask them to stop water to India. China threatened India with this  warning in past whenever they have conflict with india

deadpoolzilla411

One-Body-31

Pajeets smell in this thread is quite strong.

Clear-Total3421

the thing that these indians don't understand that kay bhai humnay itnay saal apnay defense budget say khilonay nahi banaye ,aap ungli
karo badley may aapko pura hath milega ,also pls try to come with some sensible statement pls pakistan khatam kardengay ye kardengay wo kardengay blud you have 7 lac army personnels in indian kashmir ,what were they doing grassfeeding 🥴

Putrid-Raisin7382

Over 68% of under five deaths in your country are due to malnutrition and you talk about Pakistan having shortage of food

Royal_Disaster3

As a Hindu Indian, this just sucks. When there is an act of terror, people need to use their brain. Removing water is just horrible.

Why not request an arrest of Hafiz Saeed and jointly figure out how to combat terror group operations instead of emotionally jumping to something punitive?! :(

sshivaji

The sensible thing to do is for India and Pakistan to negotiate a deal - you dont bother us in Kashmir and we wont bother you in Baluchistan and KPK. That is a pretty fair deal for both parties.

ISI and RAW should jointly ensure that this deal is honored, especially at the borders. Then we should end this suspension of Indus Water Treaty and move on in life. 

If we can also make the LOC the official border along with this deal, we can have permanent peace and put behind all this acrimony once and for all. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Impossible_Virus_329

ChonkyUnit9000

Hopefully they'll take shower with the water they'll reserve from that.

Beneficial-Can-7794

i m an indian and i would like to say that what else do you expect . i mean those mfs were literally on a genocidic mission (if thats a word) . we need to have the support of pakistan s people on this since we all know about the millitary s control and its involvement with these groups . by this we might be able to drag some attention of your people . and btw its just suspended not over .

Best-Contract-5412

I was fine with everything in India until they revoked the treaty.

If they wish for war, it is our duty to oblige. We can not accept India setting the terms of water use. They can not be allowed to rob us of water again. Destroy the dams if they don't come to their senses.

AstaraArchMagus

a lot of neighbours of kasab in the comments here crying this won't affect them at all . 

okay buddy hold your horses .

InterestingEngine305

Junior_Unit1865

Initial-Classroom154

There is a reason behind it which isi has strategically done .modi was in KSA while this happened and thus weakened  the meeting since Pakistan is a bunny of mbs, Vance went to India so it’ll hurt India USA relations as the USA can’t do much about pak as we are important to counter the iran axis.This is also to take revenge for Jafar express attack and to create Hindu Muslim divide for future operations in India.
These seem the reasons isi did this .
Anyways violence should never ever ever be the answer .In the end the generals go back to their homes but the widows can’t forget .Kashmir and balochistan must be solved peacefully .Hope some day peace Prevails and South Asia can become like Europe.There isn’t any Hindu or Muslim but first a human

Prestigious_Set_5741

Ihatepros236

They are just opportunist USA proxies nothing more.

I wish our government grow some backbone to counter their nonsense bullying.

mdamoun

It is an excellent and dare I say much awaited step. 

Anyone doubting if it was the right move from India needs to watch this 2 year old Youtube video that is about 10 mins long to understand how we were stabbed repeatedly despite making jaw dropping humanitarian goodwill gestures to the Pakistanis. 

People can blame Nehru for being stupid enough but I believe he was trying to ensure the future is peaceful. 

Just 1 year after his death onwards the betrayal began again. 

[Watch the video](https://youtu.be/DLIWVwkUZ_c?si=z8zQzjlIPjy_wFX5) and share it widely for every Indian to know the facts of the Indus water treaty.

Party-Bet-4003

Ab mohit ke ghar paani kaise pahunchega😢

ChaaluKutiya

so how long will this post be up for? let's see

subhashg547

girlikeapearl_

rain north paint liquid joke overconfident lush money aware smell

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santrupt1994

Mohit ? Ab to paani bhar ke rakh le bhai l. Kyu reddit pe time waste kar raha

silverscance

wow itne saare comment delete kar rha hai ye mod

VipulWarti

Mohit ki Maa ki c.. Madar c ka bacha.. F delhi sub..

atunucallin90

CourtroomBatman

Plastic-Bonus8999

Isn't there any way to remove that mod ,are all mods Pakistanis here?

Liesstraightheaddown

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/indus-water-treaty-suspended-attari-checkpost-shut-government-response-pahalgam-attack-2713599-2025-04-23

LunarAviator

Not enough, no cricket matches at any level whatsoever.

HandsomeVish

Something started peacefully at last,,,



💖💖💖

cursed_devil

ankitd25

T_U_S_H_A_R_

Can someone help me understand? 

As per what I read, the dams currently working on the indian side manages its own share of Indus river, as per the treaty. 
So 20% of water supply of Indus stays with India, and India makes sure to use a 100% of that 20%
Previously, India let their share flow in pak. 


Does India have dams and systems to redirect the Indus river, of which 80% is going into pak? 

Because, then we should should expect a reaction from world bank. And also if it is important why hasn't pak cried out yet?

No-Effort2363

The very fact we had pakistani military envoys in India is insane to me.

Why the hell did we entertain military envoys of a sworn enemy country.

Certain things just don't make any sense.

Also indus water treaty is just a lollipop. Even if we wanted to completely cutoff pakistan from indus water. We don't have the necessary infra to do so.

unemployeddumbass

Pulwama ke time pe bhi ye kiya tha. Kuch strong step lena hi hoga

kaladambar69

TurboV8King

Dipa1314

A few more dams can ensure I can run my gaming rig for a few more hours.

doctor_anku

Is it just me or has someone else also repeatedly saw the Indus water being stopped only to be opened later on? I see this news every time Pak attacks India.

simplyhuman4934

manwithn0h0es

sumitsingh10

Pitiful-Error7900

We have a defensive policy … because nobody tracks these things… let me tell you somethings …. “TERROR ATTACKS will keep happening in the valley” because we have to succeed every time , they have to succeed only once . This is one of those times. It is very very hard to predict the enemy targets for any defensive based strategy. Even israel failed on October 7th , even with its technological superiority 

Now let me tell you some changes that have happened in the valley under this government 

1.  The lifespan of any terrorist in the valley has been reduced from 2 to 3 years to few weeks as of now

2. The response time of our guys in this incident was literally 20 to 30 minutes…. The trek is of around 40 to 50 minutes …. This is the reason ,terrorists had to run away immediately or else the casualty rate could have been much much higher

3.  Most of the time security forces , knowingly leave an area because if we want true normalcy, you cannot put people under constant surveillance. This has hampered our army as well as this was the reason pulwama was carried out

4. It is said around 60 terrorists are still active in the valley… also this time the terrorists are better trained as before…. One local who went to pakistan for training went there in 2017 .. He trained for 8 years and is now deployed in the valley

5. As per local sources the terrorists have completely forgone any technical dependence. People are literally being told to drop rations below marked trees that is then passed on to them 3rd or 4th hand. 

6. One more thing … about local support…. Our army has directed the people that if a terrorist comes to your house … dont try to act smart and try to move out and inform about them … else if even one escapes …. They come back and will kill the local and their family entirely…. Feed them but take money from them .. then when they leave then inform the local army forces

Also people understand that these people has an entire state apparatus (ISI) behind them , providing them intel , logistics and even local support…. What our government and forces have been able to achieve is monumental despite that

So please do not reiterate congress/liberal lines… Those pieces of shits would have done nothing bit candle marches and “Kadi Ninda” 

Have patience , I have faith in our government (at least in this one) vengeance is the ask and it will be delivered…. 

But on our terms and when we want … don’t rush and simply wait and watch

P.S - If you want regular military updates about what happens in the valley and/or pakistan check “elite predators” and “Aryavarta Updates” on telegram or X

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