The public response to the Odisha vigilance raids is marked by a prevailing cynicism and skepticism towards systemic corruption. Many express frustration and anger at the entrenched corruption across government sectors, with a strong demand for more comprehensive and genuine anti-corruption actions. Although there is some appreciation for the vigilance department's efforts, distrust in the integrity and motivation behind the raids—perceived by some as politically driven—tempers positivity. The discussion acknowledges the societal impact of corruption, highlighting the challenges faced by honest officers in a corrupt system.

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It's normal

It's same frequency as in previous government too

Aggressive_Giraffe69

The frequency seems normal. Anyway, more the raids, the better for public.

Chad_Giraffe

The desire to show that the previous government was incompetent and that has bred so many corrupt officers under their wings.
Utility -
1. Use it in poll promotions
2. Create fear among the old loyalists of previous govt.
3. Create incentive for officers to work for interest of current govt.
4. In general a tool to breed loyalty amongst the executive 

Till now the current govt hasn't been able to tap and control the state executive machinery like Pandian had done. Many officers are bidding their time in hope of BJD returning. Any govt needs pliable officers to get things done without questions asked.

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The ruling party is inducting new members , it is more like a membership drive

Logical_slayer1977

Party has changed in state so maybe the old guards are getting punished

Formal-Anything-1598

Yes, corruption is deep rooted. There is no question about it.

Vigilance raid happens often, sometimes to keep BJD loyalist in check. All these people who are caught pay a lot of money not to get convicted.

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I am still waiting for the day when former IAS officer VK Pandian will be nabbed by Odisha Vigilance.

Disastrous_Address99

Vai sata kahile every single govt officer is corrupt , starting frm grp C clerk nd peons to class 1 offiers... Everyone is having their cut...if u cooperate with d system thn it works smoothly bt if u try to oversmart one another there where the foul play starts nd u might get nabbed smday nd the info is circulated by ur teamate only...This is how the system works for and against u simultaneously.

Royal_Trouble_374

CBI has nabbed ED commissioner IRS officer in Odisha is an "absolutely cinema" incident

Fs_Mulchand07

I have an opposite experience, My uncle was IAS in Karnataka- he held very high positions across the state and few years in delhi also- Never took a bribe- was transferred over 40 times in his career- just did his job. He recently passed away a couple of months ago at age 90- never was really sick - has 2 kids both married and settled in US, one is engineer and other is a doctor. His wife also worked as prof in govt college. He used to say - I never became super rich but lived a great life had enough money to do what he wanted to do, Never had fear that lokaytha would come knocking on his door and when he died - so many people came to see him that we were overwhelmed with people affection -he had helped over the years.

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I have this uncle in my society who is engineer(from old iit) in up govt. Now retired. Caught in 2009 in corruption case. Spent some time in jail. Suspended for sometime then reinstated now retired and enjoying pension.
 
Now let me share the expenses I saw over the years:
Year 2008, his 13-14 year old son came for football match in society wearing Nike t9 which costed 4500/- at that time.

Remember those most expensive Nokia phones from 2008. Yep they had 4 of them. 3 scarlet TV (lakh each that time).

Daughter did engineering in manipal from management quota (16-20lakhs ) in 2007-11. Then ms in Germany.  Another ms in Italy. Destination wedding in udaipur.

Son spent 3 years(2011-14)in kota for coaching with his Mom in a pvt flat/apartment. Did engineering(14-18) from some college in Southampton. Did masters in Italy(19-21). Got married. Now pursuing PhD(22-) in US.

I heard from someone in the society that he(uncle) owned 25 properties in ghaziabad/noida area all earned during the tenure of his service.

They have a pet dog from more than a decade and that dog's monthly expense is itself &gt;10k throughout the years.

This uncle still roams in a 15 year old alto though but with a driver because his hand can't function anymore due to some medical condition.

You can now extrapolate for ias/ips.

Only few unlucky ones get caught but only due political conspiracy or In case of defaming opposition. But money talks and deals are done and dusted.

Answering based on the last line of your post. It really depends on how you define happiness. In terms of consumption, sure they do very well. Their kids can afford to go the best unis abroad, buy the latest gadgets on a whim, go on fancy vacations etc etc. And a lot of them WILL NOT get caught. Their families reroute the money very cunningly through sham NGOs, consultancy fees etc. If this is how you define happiness and keep in mind that this is how the majority of our society views it, then sure, they are happy. 

Imo, however, there is only so much happiness you can buy. Sooner or later, you will have to confront the emptiness in your life.

KnownAd7588

See man if you don't take bribe they would transfer you and if you want to make a change they would threaten to kill you.
One person can't change this shitty system.

Suspicious-Buddy8506

my lab partner parents worked in a job which is traditionally considered as full of corruption. He is now in singapore and his sibling just got gold medal from IIT.Mnay of my classmates whose  parents are corrupt are working in FAANG now. People think they are rich because of FAANG salary.

One of my prof has 100 crore property (thats only paper value) and got govt prof job only becasue ab pvt main kya karna hai kama kar. Here also plagiarised Phd thesis to get the job

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recently an IRSEE officer got caught with 50 lkah bribe. Children educated in manipal and BITS and working in adobe now shifted to amazon. if you do enough googling you can easily get their linkeidn id so chcek their careers

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My schoolmate parents PCS recruit. Now my schoolmate only roams europe doing NOTHING.

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Every bungalow in  NOIDA has a corruption story,when NOIDA was developed every influential portion got  some

Ok_Tiger_5515

We all should watch this video lecture, it will give us a new perspective.

[https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs?si=plHTjbIPks4CORKD](https://youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs?si=plHTjbIPks4CORKD).

It is for rulers, but it's the same toolkit for everyone who wants to stay in power.

_Epic_Avacado

&gt;All 3 of them are rich, with multiple properties, and all of them acknowledge that it’s the “gifts” they received. They shared that it’s how the system works and almost all the officers are corrupt.

They are right its the SYSTEM (goverment). Im going to give you an example, there's an ias who wasn't corrupted but the cm of his state called him personally and told him that he has to "accept his cut". So in the end he had to accept it.

&gt;I was wondering if someone here knows a civil servant closely and could share how corruption impacts them.

It's a good life. I won't go into the details 

&gt;I like to believe that no one gets away with anything wrong ever ( I am not saying they would be caught, but corruption is wrong and it should have an impact) , but seeing them is questioning my belief.

Its wrong everyone knows that but the question is what can you do? Are you going to fight against it? Your body will be found next day with a suicide note next to it.

&gt;So, essentially my question is , can a corrupt civil servant lead a happy life without regrets?

At the end everything is about money. Just because you are corrupt doesn't make you a bad person. If you supposedly become a bad person after getting corrupt/money then you were never a good person in the first place

12e22i

Elite corruption is a part of ALL societies. In fact the “exchange” form of corruption acts as steroid for economy (read about bureaucratic and corporate corruption in China). As long as corruption is an accepted norm in the system, even people with conscience will not feel a lot of guilt. So in a nutshell, as long as you are not caught, corruption makes life better.

sayemraza

 you see in india those (among wealthy not middle class)who are happily working with 100% honesty is because someone from their ancestors took the bullet(corrupt practice be it acquiring land or tax evasion in business)

CAG ka kaam hai govt k kharche ka hisab krna. Check who is present cag of india. Where was this cag in his ias tenure posted in 2002. 

ye sab imandari, aur religion bhakti aur acche kaam punar janam ye sab middle class (80%india) ko control krne ka astra hai..koi ni thookne wala mar k chaloge imandari k jeevan pe...bacche biwi se gali alag milegi ki kuch wealth ni jod paya.. be selfish. Be business oriented. Help others make money by making money for yourself. Ye corruption corruption bol k demean krne se jo satisfaction milta usse net worth ni badhta .. understand the working of real world. Day you will realise every fucking thing right from marriage to education to materialistic demand to religion to politics to advertising to international relation cross border relations is only about one fucking thing called MONEY you will understand the game.
Everyone is born corrupt. It's just a matter of getting seat at top of the table.

When I was 18-20 Yr old I used to think like you do. Now I am 29 and see things happening in the world with an  open mind. Some understand the game early some late.. some never. Power and money ka lahu ek bar chakhne ki der hai..sari duniyadari samjh aa jati. 

help people(powerful) and get help from people(powerful). 

 imajine the favours you can draw from a politician in power (by doing him favours)for your family, kids, your loved ones in business, education ,health, paperwork, getting land etc etc. It's a give and take world.


Usually when we are below 25 with minimal work experience of real world and most of our time absorbed in media industry, movies , tv, news, etc our mind is conditioned to think corruption bad politician bad and we live in our own utopia. As you grow and start seeing things from Pov of MONEY being involved(who is benefiting) you will understand how things work.

RTO officers, AEs in civil engineering department, IAS etc. have potential to earn in 1000+ crore. If they don't go berserk in taking bribes, they can lead a comfortable life.

I am doing civil engineering. My friends are here just to take the degree and then they will prepare for government jobs. 4-5 are there whose parents are in government job. They all have 2-3 iPhones, branded clothes, all apple accessories, a personal car, Kawasaki bike and they carry 20-30k in cash. Damn, I envy them. All of them will use reservation now and along with their father, they will also earn bribes.

I know one uncle who was AE in Bihar. He retired in 1990s and he had accumulated a total of 90-100 crore in those time(This amount isn't reachable for 99% of corrupt officers even today).

He has three kids. All of them lived a lavish life. Heck even his daughter's husband is AE too and even he is damn corrupt 😂. He retired recently.

I know a civil court judge who has earned enough that his three generations can sustain.

Even Pappu Yadav, Bihar politician recently told in a podcast that one Darogas earned Rs 5 crore a month. If they get posting in station near ganga river(read about Bihar sand mining mafias) then they can even earn 10+ crores. 

Fact is most of the officers aren't even punished for taking bribes. They are just suspended. Even when they are suspended, they get their salary.

hair-loss-alt

i will give you many examples if you want

My batchmate is a close relative of a BJP MP in bihar. He got 8000 rank in JEE but cannot tell what is integration.

These people also get into clubs and fests and simply spend club money or fest money in five star hotels.Frankly the only struggle facing  were those who came from villages and had to pay full fees. SC ST got free education, rich got into good clubs and paid tuition fees from fest and clubs.

You just dont knwo the sacms in tier 1 colleges. I only had one reaction in tier 1 college-oh so thats how money is earned

The biggest trap which is sold to us is that skills are needed. The only thing needed is connections.Go and read in vyapam scam who bribed to get medical seats. In my tier 1 college, the dean himself got his children a seat by fraud and believe me this tier1 college is almost the best in india

One of my relative worked in a bank in rural areas. He was corrupt as fuck. He has share in all the government schemes meant for poor. Actually the whole system was so corrupt that if he would not take share he would be considered as fool. From mukhiya to dalaal to bank manager everyone used to get their cut. He earned lacks of rupees every month. But he never invested it anywhere in fear of getting caught. He spent all of it on liquor and mutton. He was always surrounded by 10-15 people who only wanted free liquor and meat. His kids are completely failure. They were in different world when the money keep coming. Today, both of his sons are jobless, not educated. He didn't even send them to good private colleges. Now they are good for nothing. He married his first daughter to a jobless guy. The total cost of marriage was not even 5 lacks that includes dowry as well. The second daughter was married to group d employee. 

So even though he earned in millions, he couldn't use it. His kids are suffering a lot. Karma has its own way to punish. Hence why,  honesty is the best policy.

ashwin313

my nana was in such a position that he could easily become lakpati or even crorepati but never took bribe but instead asked for a chicken or vegetable lol . He was strict and disciplined asf

I have seen corrupt officers but once saw a honest young officer and oh God! he was truly amazing. He was the DC in our district. I can say that corruption does give people a lot of money but honesty and integrity rewards you with something which no amount of money can buy and that is respect.

Hey-UwU-Hey

IRS logo ko bhi milta hai kya   
UNDER THE TABLE????

Yes, definitely. However you can earn a lot of money legally too. Let's see how:

Suppose you are IAS/IRS and you have decent family networth (like a house or two). Use your influence and find a commercial rentee(especially bank). Your rent will increase.

Help a relative/friend in opening a business with your influence, indirectly. All those corruption for taking NOC of fire department etc. will not be there as you are government officer at high post. Make someone from your family a partner in that company and again use your influence to grow the business. It us unethical but not full fledged corruption.

High ranking officers usually know the project way before it is made public. Tell someone from your friends/family to buy a land near the site and when project is announced, boom.

Take insider information from companies and convey it to your trusted friend. He will buy it for you. Then 50-50 share.

Usually, these are some not so intensely corrupt practices.

Are you people for real? Corruption is the worst!

purpurne

Do everything as you would for God.  
You wouldn't lie to God and make back deals, so don't with people.

Corruption destroys a society from within, because it creates distrust in institutions. When people don't trust their institutions, which should be an example to them, they don't trust each other. This is what kills harmony.

Can anyone list some of the most corrupt jobs other than civil service which have a high scope of earning under table money along with data 
To everyone reading this 
Please reply if you are truly aware of the situations 

Though I'm not a government job aspirant, I want to know this as this is my college project.
Every response will be appreciated

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Odisha's Vigilance Directorate has intensified its crackdown on corruption, conducting a series of raids across the state. A noteworthy incident involved Baikuntha Nath Sarangi, a chief engineer in the rural development department, who was found with assets worth crores of rupees, significantly disproportionate to his income. Raids uncovered over Rs 2.56 crore in cash, multiple properties, gold, and luxury items. Sarangi attempted to dispose of the cash by throwing it out of his flat window as officials approached. Simultaneous raids were conducted at multiple locations linked to Sarangi, following credible information of his corrupt activities.

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