The public sentiment surrounding the delisting of inactive political parties is polarized, with significant frustration from southern India expressing feelings of alienation and demanding greater representation and autonomy. While some view the initiative positively as a necessary political reform, there is a prevalent undercurrent of dissatisfaction regarding the current government's approach to accountability, economic policies, and representation, leading to a mixture of cautious optimism and deep discontent.

Election Commission

Political Parties

Government

Politicians are a reflection of the people, and not the other way around. Politicians behave the way they are incentivized to behave. Watch them backtrack and change tune every time they say something the people *really* don't like. 

This, the people don't care about. So, neither do the politicians.

besse

https://preview.redd.it/3chvccfr1c8e1.jpeg?width=3024&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=bc60d20813ec43ba1699e6c4a696d39c47cf8dd4

This was in Artesia California and I'd know only an Indian would eat that shit. I had clicked it to share with friends. Anyways,

I really feel that Indians think it is beneath them to clean up. Aiyo can't pick it up cause my back hurts. Lets leave some work for Kachrawala they will do it. Well and truly lazy people.

rhyme_pj

Politicians are the same people, why would expect them to be different?

bhodrolok

fierze16

political parties represent people. If people don't care, they don't care.

thekingshorses

What are political parties? 🤷 Same bunch of Indians...

[deleted]

kammycoder

Quiet opposite.. how do you think political parties would care about littering when a normal citizen does it all the time

How will they? They only know how to start something. Never look after anything till the end.

The worst time this hits me is during and after Independence Day and Republic Day! They fight for the flag and the nation and when it gets stamped on and thrown anywhere and everywhere!

googleydeadpool

Specialist-Court9493

Angle of incidence = angle of reflection, and vice-versa.

antiray

as if political parties control the people and not the other way round.

oldschoolguy77

It's said that political parties outdo the dump yards.

tutya_th

They don't even respect their party flag , classic haramkhors. 

International_Cake15

Political parties and their blind followers are uneducated and shameless.

Indians on a human level have an element of shame. So there is still hope for them to embibe civic sense.

AdSpiritual2846

Reminder: This is not a debate subreddit, it's a place to circle-jerk about communism being cool and good. Please don't shit on flavours of marxism you feel negatively towards. If you see a meme you don't like just downvote and move on, don't break the circle-jerk in the comments.

*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CommunismMemes) if you have any questions or concerns.*

AutoModerator

I've got family who love in the province they run, so take this with a grain of salt, but they sat that their State (Kerala) was made a much better place to live and that their politicians stick to their guns as far-left anti-capatalists. This is the best we can get with electoralism, imo.
TL;DR
Pretty solid, overall

Edit:I'm stupid, fixed mistake

AychMH

I prefer the actual communists the CPI(Maoist) who are working towards smashing the bourgeois state.

Recent developments of them
https://redherald.org/2023/07/17/developments-in-the-peoples-war-in-india/

moond0gg

Mr-Stalin

Revisionists. Join the Naxalites instead.

Looks like people here aren't differentiating between CPI and CPI-M.
CPI barely has any presence, though it's one of the six national parties.
CPI-M is a revisionist anti-revolution pro-china party. They want all the revolutionary maoists to surrender. I've spoken to the ex head of the party/politburo and that guy is a complete idiot (Prakash Karat), he even wanted to change the name of the party to social democratic party.
They did well in Kerala but not so much in West Bengal, losing power in the latter. 
They're also bad at addressing caste issues, the whole politburo is upper caste with just one woman.

CPI maoist is the most based party in India and probably in the world.

glucklandau

Long live the CPI Maoist the rest are not communist

thinkingoutloud1917

Critical support. They represent the gold standard for the electoralist apth in any communist party. Though I've heard that they're going revisionist recently by cutting subsidised university education in the state and attacking the Naxalites. For max basedness, they should form a United Front with the CPI (Maoist) so that the revolutionaries get more support and are able to grow faster.

GloriousSovietOnion

Works fine enough in a democratic state such that it increased literacy and multiple other social factors by a fuckton.

Sooryan_86

Both the CPI  and CPI (M) are too much involved in religion for some reason. Even babasaheb thought the same. But i kinda get it. You can't get votes without favoring a side. 
But the other left parties such as RCPI and SUCI are more left than the CPI 
I'm from Kerala which is ruled by CPI (M). The second term of their rule is a disaster. They are way too arrogant now. Still better than the rest of the states though.

johnbleubucket

Good party for what I've heard, they could probably go further if they played nice with the communal parties buy then again they wouldn't have achieved what they achieved if they hadn't stick to their policies

Kilyaeden

OddName_17516

It got divided like 10 times and there's a different party for each ideology. (10-15 ultra left guerrilla parties, 4-6 parliamentary "communist" parties etc). 
We still have control over trade unions and students unions. Left student Union presence is very good. For everyone saying they're revisionist, maybe yes. But they're a step in the right direction. Stupid ahh theory readers need to realize people just don't establish a fully functional classless communist society overnight, that too in a country being ruled by fascists. 
So yes, we do have really good left parties, although they come with some criticisms.

Gow_Mutra69

they are helping the state wage war on actual communists and displacing tribal people so western companies can mine their land for rare minerals.

Last_Tarrasque

They've done good while taking part in electoral politics. Decent but not the best.

They're not great since they're anti-revolution

Viztiz006

tricakill

big_enough4u

Good initiative. Until you become famous and start affecting them. Then they’ll make your life miserable. EVERY single party will do it. No point pointing out any one party. But good initiative nonetheless. Good luck

Mindless-Pilot-Chef

Needs an app tbh. Inshorts like interface maybe.

NightFury002

Donut_29

Make it open source

It will help news agencies and good citizens contribute to it.

Also mark the statement true or false based on evidences
And those evidences should be clear links

itsfair12

How much are you spending /plan to spend on your legal team? I mean in a country like India where the judiciary is biased and the process is so tedious and lengthy, I hope you are covered.

ryotsu_kochikame

another great method for accountablity would be to mention how you verify the statements, is it done manually by a team or by people using your platform, or is it autonomous, if autonomous how reliable is it?

fladistic

Collaborate with us!
If you're someone who wants to collaborate in the project please fill out the form below or email us. 

🌐 Visit: https://polifacto.in/

📧 Email: info.polifacto@gmail.com

📃Collaborate/ Suggestion/ Feedback:      https://forms.gle/okBTH2HhDtFHDyxp8

Open source soon.....

sirjbd

Wanted to build something like this myself. Could we add the information about each MP as well their, financial and criminal records, etc? I guess election commission might be having that but I find that very unreachable.

Temporary-Flight3567

how will you verify what is the truth? How will you know which politicians has said exactly what? you will need a source which will circle back to mainstream media i assume ?! Cause i dont think you will be doing on ground journalism.

I truly like the concept and initiative but for me there are some gray areas that needs to addressed.

NOT_HeisenberG_47

Is this open source? Would like to contribute in this since this seems to be promising project. Also a mobile version would make the userspace a little more bigger

Wise-Tangelo9596

Wow that's a much needed app to keep citizens aware , because they all have short term memory

GravityAnime_


Op, the only way this platform *survives* and possibly *thrives* is if its **Open Source**. I'll give you a couple of reasons why that is.

1. **Political pressure from authorities and people in Power**
	
	Let's face it, The reality of building a platform that deals with
    sensitive topics like political statements, claims, and promises is
    that it inevitably attracts attention — both good and bad. The
    **Goberment** **CAN and absolutely WILL** take down any for-profit and non-profit content at any given point of time as they like and deem fit. Platforms that challenge authority or question the status quo, especially in politically charged and highly polarised
    environments like India face significant pressure. Take the BBC
    India raids just 2 days after following their documentary on our beloved Mudi
    Xi, for instance. 
This isn’t an isolated incident at all.
    Independent Media outlets like _Alt-News_, _Newslaundry_, _Scroll_,
    _The Caravan_, and _Newsclick_ have all faced goberment scrutiny one way or the other, with raids and notices from agencies like the ED, CBI, and Income Tax Department aimed at silencing dissent. Also, mind you these are supposedly independently funded "big media organisations" which also have a separate and highly skilled legal teams dedicated to deal with issues like these specifically. But ask yourself this question, What do you have? 	By being open-source, you **decentralize** control, making it harder for external parties and most importantly **goberment** to target and suppress the platform.
 In fact, a robust, transparent open-source community becomes a form
    of protection against censorship or political pressure because the
    project is no longer dependent on a single entity or a centralized
    team. Having a strong and decentralized community of people will
    almost always make it significantly harder if not completely prevent
    that from happening.

 2. **A Data-Driven/Data-Heavy Platform like yours need collective input** 

	Polifacto, as a fact-checking platform, will rely heavily on data — claims, records, historical data, public statements, and more. A single team, no matter how dedicated, will have limited access to the necessary resources to keep up with the flood of new claims, data, and sources. An open-source model allows you to tap into the power of a much larger pool of contributors: developers, data scientists, fact-checkers, journalists, and even users who want to contribute.  
	Open-source projects naturally draw a wider range of contributors with diverse skill sets, which will be crucial as your platform grows and the data required becomes more complex. The larger the community, the more dynamic and scalable the platform can be. Open-source allows for continuous improvement, with contributors actively identifying and solving issues, adding features, and ensuring the accuracy of the data on the platform.

 3. **Trust and Transparency**  

	&gt; "This platform is designed to promote transparency and accountability, ensuring that the people of India have the tools they need to make informed decisions."
	
	How? You can't just expect people to trust you by saying "Trust me Bro" to them. Think about it this way, do you honestly believe that the platform can promote transparency and accountability without it being open and transparent itself?! Sounds like a perfect paradox. Given the nature of the platform, trust will be one of your biggest assets. If people feel that the platform is controlled by a single organization, they **WILL** doubt its impartiality or transparency, especially in politically sensitive matters. Open-sourcing the platform ensures that anyone can audit the code, check the algorithms, and contribute suggestions for improvement. This transparency will increase the credibility of the platform and help establish trust with your user base.

2.  **Financial, Logistical and Marketing challenges**
	
	Imagine the potential of Polifacto with a model where the community can help fund its development, ensuring the platform’s independence and sustainability. Traditional monetization strategies like the SaaS model or freemium options are not only incompatible with your mission but could undermine its core values. In a SaaS model, you’d likely have to restrict access to certain features behind paywalls or charge for subscriptions, which could raise concerns about bias, exclusivity, or prioritizing paying customers over truth and transparency. Moreover, using a freemium model or ads to generate revenue might detract from the platform’s integrity. If you monetize through ads or paid features, there's always the risk that your platform could be swayed by advertisers just like the current state mainstream media or other external pressures, especially if your fact-checking efforts begin to challenge the interests of powerful entities. This is why open-source becomes the most viable solution. You can use GitHub sponsorships, donations via platforms like _Buy Me a Coffee_, _Kofi_, and other voluntary subscriptions.


 6. **Innovation and Collaboration**  

	By opening up the platform’s codebase, you allow developers from around the world to contribute new ideas, features, and improvements. This will help with innovation, especially in areas like AI-based fact-checking, natural language processing, or even the verification of multimedia content (images, videos, etc.). When multiple minds are working on a problem, the solutions are often far more creative and effective than what a single team could come up with.


PS: You need to open source the frontend of the platform asap on github. For backend, you can do a phased roll-out commit-by-commit to give you enough time to implement necessary changes/refactor code and to fix any critical security issues or lapses (if present) that may be a privacy or security threat if shared publicly.

I have yapped way too much i know but one more thing, develop a secure public API utilising the Google docs/sheets API through which you can let other readers, contributors, maintainers and editors request edits and add/modify data to the platform. You can have a staging system like github for the edits and additions of data that sits in between the live preview and staging to verify the edit by a hybrid method of community voting (like the Twitter's newly added community-notes) and verified-assigned maintainers to prevent spam by the infamous *IT-Cell*

Any_Present_9517

U will become a puppet of political party

thunderditznut

Yo is it open source? If yes can you tell me the GitHub link?

Savings-Arrival-7817

Really good initiative tbh! Plz make it opensource many of us wanna contribute to it

You can't do it solo, it has to be a group of people together.

Especially the promises one I liked it very much, in this generation where politicians make promises for winning, this solution is truly needed

Hopefully your family stays safe, if this gets big and politicians get to know of this, you will be bombarded with legal troubles and life threats.

If you are getting serious about this, better do it from outside India.

All the very best!

Business-Sell4276

CapnB0rt

acchnAsquare

I am a lawyer. Let me know if you need any assistance from my end.

Deep-Doc-01

I hope you guys have good lawyers. Because you will not be liked by many.

loganme123

hotcoolhot

naturalizedcitizen

Brilliant work. 

Please watch out for the saffron IT cell. 🙏

1800skylab

None needs this as people are happy to be living their delusional lives and driding every single thing their favourite party people mention/say/share on social media

wholeproud

ironman_gujju

That's an awesome initiative, All the best guys..

sugan0tech

I would like to contribute to this. This is so cool!!

This is so nice. Kudos to your team! 

Is there a feature where we can verify by searching a keyword under a politician's profile whether they have commented on this earlier. Further, news articles can be linked to the statements made by them.
Sorry, haven't check the website rn.

Excellent thought ......Keep it up &amp; be positive ........

rjsmehta

Im a react native dev love to contribute to your project if you’re building an app in future

Glittering-Grand-168

Loner_0112

Good project but what is the guarantee that it won't end up other biased media either which is govt hater or Govt lover and stay netural ??

Dexter0161

Wow 😲 in a world of rumours you verifying statement big responsibility bro great initiative too.

Laughing0nYou

Is there a code base to create a clone? So that u can hedge the risk..open sourcing it may stop them from shutting it down

Sea-Ad3386

SnooCakes3204

Yo this project looks crazy! Big W!  
Will definitely love to contribute to it 💯

y4sh___

Ye hui naa baat bhaiii .we need to stop corruption  .

sitabjaaa

There was quite a popular database released regarding the counts of IPC cases of the p-litic-ans during the previous general electi-n. Could you guys add this in the description of the individual polit-cians?

lonelyroom-eklaghor

Can’t politicians just ask to shut it down?

Affectionate-Pea1326

Good initiative but as far as I know the govt can either buy or threaten to modify the facts!

An open fact” With a political system so deeply rooted into judicial system to change the law and the narrative “ can and will do everything in its power if this is what’s being considered by most of the vote bank!

junglee8005

The site mentions what a fact check is and what all it does. But I couldn’t find anywhere how the website does the actual check?

brainer121

This surely takes massive cojones. Stay safe and much strength to you in the upcoming months and years. The title made me happy. Can't wait to check out the entire platform.

artiChokk

Loved the vision amazing I mean this can create a benchmark nationally and internationally.


I know it's not related to the mission but hoped u guys would have used indian  classical instead of western just a thought no hate

This will help the voters get more clarity about the current situation of every party, It's a top tier project and I think it'll be popular soon

jaydenhazard

This is amazing, have you considered making it into a completely decentralised network system, using multiple nodes hosted by volunteers or even utilizing users devices (mobiles, desktops, etc) to create a fleet of computing, storage, and hosting locations, it would be hard but resilient and censorship-resistant, also might support in terms of feasibility in running it across such a big nation!!

anonparker05

wild-honeybadger

Kudos for such a great tool. Hope you &amp; your partner will soon be able to complete it.

Ill-Car-769

No_Guarantee_5859

How is this any different than "fact checkooor" sites?

TheGuy_M

beyondend

immanueljms

Are you looking for people in the technical side or the journalistic side? Cos would like to contribute if you need help on the news research side

Alz_Own

It has been proven (in studies) that fact checking has no real effect on battling misinformation.

somkoala

Such a cool and unique project.. Please make it open source as many of us are willing to contribute to it

Not-N-Extrovert

Not a programmer and looking to volunteer.

s2eker

How do you plan to verify the claims? If it's volunteer based and you get big enough somehow, there's gonna be party-biased volunteers flooding in and then this is gonna be the same as any other platform.

GeldedMonkey

Witty-Training-6705

Also had a similar idea, but turned down by friends as it's going to pinch some people in power. 
And we are not big like ADR. Legal actions and website hacks will be welcomed.

Karan1458

If you could add where they from what is their qualification, which constituency they've won, what are their promises, criminal history, declared assets etc. Would be nice too.

horny_braz

What dataset are you using? How do you determine if the statement is legitimate? What makes your dataset source legitimate?

Aggravating_You_3043

SecretRefrigerator4

This is indeed a great initiative... Would love to help and contribute to this project.

Beneficial_Passion38

I was thinking about creating something like this.
Thanks a lot for building this.❤️

protontransmission

The Election Commission of India has commenced proceedings to de-list 345 Registered Unrecognized Political Parties that have not contested elections since 2019.

Delisting of Inactive Political Parties in India

Why This Matters

Public Sentiment Summary

Highlighted Comments

Parties Involved

What the people want