Public sentiment towards Gaza ceasefire negotiations is predominantly negative, characterized by skepticism about the sincerity of involved parties, particularly Hamas and Israel. There is a widespread perception of historical failures in ceasefire agreements that breeds distrust, alongside a strong humanitarian urgency for immediate aid and a comprehensive permanent solution. The public expresses frustration with both sides, with a notable call for accountability from Hamas regarding hostage situations and a critical view of media portrayals of the conflict.

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Netanyahu does not want to stop the slaughter until all Palestinians are dead.

SuhkItLuzerz

Why would Hamas continue to negotiate when Israel breaks every ceasefire it agrees to? 

They could have had all the remaining hostages back in March, but chose not to proceed to phase 2 of the agreement because it would have required a military exit from Gaza.

Ver599

Netanyahu is already arming and propping up a rival armed group in Gaza to take their place.

Just like he did by arming Hamas to be a counter to Arafat’s Fatah movement.

What could possibly go wrong?

The U.S. and Oliver North with Israel’s help sold missiles and other weapons to Iran after the Revolution and tried to cover it up, now they both bomb Iran.

Not to mention Franklin Saint in Snowfall was getting his weapons from an Israeli arms dealer.

Where did all those uzis in the 80s and 90s come from?

It’s all so, so stupid.

Lanky_Republic_2102

There should be no room for Netanyahu in any agreement as his is a international fugitive with warrants for multiple war crimes as is the terrorist leader of a rogue state. Any agreement with Netanyahu can not hold any weight as no one should negotiate with terrorists.

crockett05

How the american public supports this terrorist just shows how thick they are

dontmakemeangy

[For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces](https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/amp/)

Ladies and Gentlemen!!!

Good Evening.... First Lesson... this is why the Right-Wing in Israel created Hamas.  That way they could always blame them and couldnt negotiate with a split group of Palestinians.

-Akrasiel-

Practical-Squash-487

Why should hamas stay in control? What did they do to improve Palestineans lives?

David202023

Small_Translator_721

How can so many people support Hamas … Reddit amazes me everyday

Inside-Milker

Could you give us an official statement, video of hamas member saying they agree to ceasefire ? right you cant... now you can crawl back to your hole

Open_Woodpecker5712

So, the poor Palestinians are not to blame because  once Hamas gained power, free elections stopped?

But Hamas needs to stay because Hamas represents the Palestinians?

Well which is it?

Jesus_died_for_u

Thats BS Hamas just denied trumps ceasefire offer

Popular-Citron6396

I don’t know how a lasting ceasefire can be achieved.  Hamas won’t trust and may not agree to having any remaining leaders in exile safely and Israel won’t agree to having an armed Hamas presence.  

Trump can push Bibi to a ceasefire but that will only result in a delay in escalation.

PotentialIcy3175

Of course. Hamas has to cease to exist. They’ll. break another treaty, kill Palestinians and attack Israel again - pull off similar shit like on the 7.10.

TypicalBloke83

Welp that's depressing. He likes to announce ceasefires before they are done or announce they are almost done before they are being worked on, to try to have the pressure spur themm to finish. Fuck trump, fuck israel.

Kumquat_conniption

Impressive_Scheme_53

Can't let the week end without Trump being on the receiving end of humiliation from Israel... for himself and for Americans.

I understand why they think we are morons. The tail truly wags the dog.

VajennaDentada

He's just being passive aggressive with Israel. They're used to just passive.

Both_Woodpecker_3041

Gathering my thoughts here. Is this a disappointing obstacle to peace talks? Yes. I think de-militarization of both parties involved should be the goal (and should continue to be the ultimate goal). That said, is it surprising? No. 

I'm not particularly surprised that during an ongoing conflict that's spanned decades, where in which there have been war crimes (to Palestinians and to Israelis), and where they have seen their own massacred, that they would want to hold onto their arms as leverage. As awful as it is to think about, the hostages were leverage, giving that away means strategically that they are more vulnerable.

My guess is that this was approached with the assumption that since they are negotiating from a disadvantage that they would be willing to agree to a big step like disarmament. And, very clearly, they expect the war to continue, and Bibi and the rest of his government expects the war to continue. So it may be inevitable that any agreed ceasefire ends, and it keeps going.

I get the logic behind saying no, we will not agree without Hamas being disarmed. But, personally, I think the hostages are more important. I don't think gambling with their lives is better if you tell yourself you're saving other Israeli lives. Either way, the war continues.

ibsliam

If the cost for freeing the hostages is leaving the strip with Hamas armed we should pay it. 

Bezrat Hashem we will put their lives before our pride and anger.

somebadbeatscrub

Without disarmament of Hamas and other groups in Gaza no peace will be made.


This stuff gives Bibi excuses to prolong this war 
If it's the PA if it's a coalition of arab countries there needs to be some plan for postwar Gaza but if Hamas is part of the ruling coalition a ceasefire will be just that a ceasefire and not a lasting peace.


Hamas talks about going back to October 6th but that can't be the only option if it is then it's no peace at all.


I don't think Bibi I trying to get a deal but there is sufficient pressure on him seeing what the Israel chief of staff Zamir said today (you can look it up but tldr: Zahir said there's not enough troops to actually clear out Gaza of Hamas even if that's what they wanted to do) 


Until Hamas is also pressured to at least talk about disarmament this war won't end.

Impossible-Reach-649

Weren’t people just saying last week that Hamas WAS willing to put down their arms?

myThoughtsAreHermits

So disappointing. I'm just numb and my heart is broken by this. Once again. For the 5000th time in the last year and a half.

Gammagammahey

What sort of sane person would lay down their arms given the actions of the IDF in the last year and a half and the complete lack of consequences they've faced for breaching any agreements?

e: also they merely need to look at the West Bank and see how well giving up arms helped the Palestinians there

malachamavet

Just a reminder as to why Palestinian factions are hesitant to lay down their arms, without a proper two state solution: 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

redthrowaway1976

As long as the status quo continues today with conditions as they are for Palestinians there will be violent resistance. In this way, even disarming Hamas if it were possible is kicking the can down the road (perhaps a longer road) until some other faction takes up arms. The only way to TRULY get rid of violent resistance is to withdraw the appeal of it. That means at minimum a path to a Palestinian state.

soapysuds12345

Hamas has to be the biggest bunch of psychotic morons on the planet. 

They are drowning in the blood of their brothers and sisters and they refuse to do anything to ensure less Palestinians die.

SpphosFriend

I think Israel should disarm too, it's a barrier to peace.

Specialist-Gur

Without arms, the people of Gaza have no meaningful way to defend themselves from the forced ethnic cleansing plan of Trump/Bibi, given that they are not going to get many volunteers to leave Gaza on their own to settle somewhere random in Africa. Disarming one side without addressing the power imbalance will entrench occupation and domination. 

Disarming is effectively capitulation after the death of 60,000 to 200,000 people, with zero guarantee of safety as Israel has routinely broken every single deal it signs. Just look at how armed settlers treat unarmed Palestinians in the West Bank where there is no Hamas. 

This disarmament clause has been added to purposely sink any chance of peace so the conflict can continue and Bibi can continue to stay in power.

NarutoRunner

Genuine question here, was there ever a point that both sides could negotiate in good faith and honestly, or was this always going to fall apart eventually?

BringbackDreamBars

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Title fails to mention that it isn't simply a 5 year ceasefire, but Hamas also demanded Israel would release hundreds of Palestinian criminals, some with blood on their hands and completely retreat from the Gaza strip and fund the rebuilding of Gaza. Obviously this was never going to be accepted

GK0NATO

No ceasefires. That’s just asking to do this whole fucking thing again. No one should be in favor of a multi-year ceasefire, the only purpose of which could be to allow HAMAS to recruit and rearm. Even if you think Israel are monsters, you should oppose this proposal, because it would mean another war in the near future, and we can see how that goes for Palestinian civilians. 

iMissTheOldInternet

Once Hamas realizes they're negotiating for their lives and not their power, maybe we'll actually have a deal.

CatchCritic

I thought Hamas wouldve been killed off by now the way they talk about what Israel is doing.

TravellerSL8200

I’m sure Hamas will spend these 5 years reflecting on their actions and deciding that war and terrorism are not the way forward, which will lead them to make peace with Israel. 

/s

OB1KENOB

GoRangers5

I have an idea: release all the hostages and put down your weapons, and this war ends tomorrow. 

It's not rocket science.

Histrix-

No surprise here again.  Hamas has nothing to lose by making proposal that will not fly.  All they have left are surviving hostages that lose their value as Israel continue its incursion into Gaza.

With aid totally cut off and scorch earth policy of Israel, Hamas' day as functioning terrorist organization is numbered.

macross1984

Unconditional surrender by hamas is the only path forward towards peace.

Tonyman121

Good, negotiating with terrorists should not be standard

NegevThunderstorm

i mean they arent wrong. it happens every time. they cease fire, hamas rearms, attacks, plays victim back tostep one

Capable-Silver-7436

This fucking thing isn’t ending any time soon is it? 

The worst part about all this is that the hostages are caught in the middle and their families are suffering. There is no fucking way to make this work without being sure Hamas will not rearm/regroup.

RangerPower777

Lol this war is gonna keep going until Israel is forced to stop. That won't happen until 2029 at minimum. 

gquax

Wow one guy is calling Arab-Americans "gullible morons." He must work for the DNC voter outreach department.

rtublin

“These people are so dumb they think politics work like a movie.”

Says the people who can only understand politics through movie and pop culture references, thinks everything is good vs evil, and legit believes things about republicans that are exaggerated into the wildest plot lines 

Theamachos

Just one of many, many Ls they will be racking up over the next 4 years.

banalfiveseven

&gt;Didn't he ban Muslims from entering the country? lol this country has the attention span and memory of a flea

That's an impressive amount of irony.

Anaeta

I would not be surprised. The democrats picking up the neo-con refugees from the Trump Massacre '16 meant they gained a group of people that really really enjoy getting America involved in conflicts that get drawn out for decades with no real off-ramp or picture of what post-conflict looks like. 

So them taking advantage of Israel-Gaza in the attempt to continue the conflict there indefinitely in order to ??????? Profit while also alienating large diverse swaths of key Muslim voter groups in key swing states, as well as traditionally Democrat leaning Jewish voters &amp; supporters at a time that they claim is the most important historic election where democracy itself is on the line would be absolutely hilarious to me.

Inch_High

Ah yes, classic Israel, always breaking ceasefires with the poor, innocent, peaceloving Hamas and other terrorist orgs.

Remember, if you ignore history, you can make it be whatever you want!

Person5_

Lol they’ll be calling Trump anti-Semitic for putting pressure on Israel

littleweapon1

It’s insane how many times they end up being completely wrong and still never learn

OkYogurtcloset2661

I for one kind of hope they finish the job

Tango-Actual90

It was never about the Palestinians was it?

Or maybe it was. It was about killing them. The "4 more years" chanting was beyond satanic.

SonarioMG

I think that sub is a honeypot to attract the dumbest redditors.

burtgummer45

I read that as “leopard sat e my face”

1EyedWyrm

&gt;Something tells me they will regret this...


In other words, the LeopardsAteMyFace Redditors don't actually have an example of Donald Trump being a "leopard" who is betraying his own supporters, so they're just hoping this will end poorly so they can claim they were right about Trump all along.

Dolphanatic

Trumps "promises" mean even less than any other politicians.

keeleon

Phase 2 is where the ceasefire stuff starts and phase 2 is never going to actually happen.

It’ll be a hostage trade and that’s it.

Edit: which is a good thing. Ceasefires are what Hamas uses to prepare terrorist attacks in safety. It’s also good that Hamas is essentially admitting that they themselves think several living terrorists are worth as much as a single Jewish corpse.

No_Assistant_3202

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