Public sentiment around the Indus Water Treaty disputes is characterized by a blend of frustration, anger, and urgency regarding perceived unfair water allocation and management. Many comments express a strong desire for India to reclaim its water rights and reevaluate the treaty, while others emphasize the complexities of collaboration between India and Pakistan, highlighting a nationalistic tone alongside calls for accountability. The discourse reflects divergent views, fluctuating between advocating for assertive actions and recognizing the need for diplomatic engagement.

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World Bank helped broker the Indus Waters Treaty and signed it as a third party. It's not just there for show. It's named in the treaty and has a formal role in dispute resolution.

If India walks away unilaterally, the Bank can’t ignore it. It could be forced to step in or back Pakistan in arbitration. That brings legal heat and makes it harder for India to claim this is just a bilateral issue.

Wider risk is how this plays with international lenders. Ignoring a treaty that has the World Bank’s name on it makes India look unreliable. Not great when you're looking for development loans or trying to lead global partnerships.

If India burns its credibility with the World Bank by walking out on the Indus treaty, it risks real money. Just a small rise in borrowing costs could mean an extra 20 to 30 billion dollars in interest over ten years. Projects get delayed, private capital pulls back, and infrastructure grinds slower. That hits jobs, growth, and tax revenue. Investors watch this stuff. Break one treaty and they start pricing in risk everywhere.

VPackardPersuadedMe

It is very likely illegal. The treaty, under its own terms, cannot be unilaterally suspended or terminated (or put in "abeyance", which sounds like an attempt to avoid using the terms suspended or terminated). Thus, the only justifications for termination or suspension would be those provided for in the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties: supervening impossibility of performance, response to material breach, and fundamental chance of circumstance from the time that the treaty was signed. VCLT, articles 60-62. However, none of those apply in this case. 

The other possibility would be to accept that termination/suspension of treaty treaty was a breach of the treaty, but that it was a lawful countermeasure designed to induce Pakistan to comply with its international obligations. There are two problems with that, though: i) India has not shown that Pakistan is responsible for the attacks to which it claims to be responding; and ii) countermeasures cannot amount to reprisals or affect the protection of fundamental human rights. Articles on State Responsibility, article 50(1). Mass denial of access to water is arguably a reprisal that affects the right of people in Pakistan to water and sanitation. *See* CESR General Comment no. 15. So, even if Pakistan were shown to be responsible for the wrongful conduct, and even if India expressly justified its response as a countermeasure, it would still not be lawful.

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So, war? Ahh schucks man.. just when life started to get better.

NotHamza1

UnlikelyConfidence11

Topi drama. India can only effect small percentage of Pakistan's supply. There is a reason those rivers were given to Pakistan in IWT.

IllustriousScene5040

This is unfortunate, but along expected lines from a Hindu nationalist government. The doves are steadily losing ground everywhere in the world and the hawks are winning.

But I just want to say: the people in our region are masters at making their own lives miserable for no good reason. A wise person put it thus: we are like apes who are tearing each other apart because we just don't know any better.

The result of this ratcheting up of hatred can't be pretty. I try not to think about it.

mantrabuddhi

Yes they will, just a matter of time before new deals are made. The Generals come and go, the better question is which Colonel will turn on and exile Munir. It is a long game but the plays are predictable.

CrimsonTightwad

Okay and, spend the next 30 years building dams, the moment water is actually threatened, 2 -3 strikes and waters back😇 good luck wasting the money

BrilliantMastodon957

My Dada friend once said : Brahmin blocked our water. 

Even after 80 years, the same mindset still exists.

i3ahab

Just based on the title good for everyone

SyedHRaza

I wise man once said that next war is going to be on water. We're heading that way full throttle just because of India's arrogance.

googo1

OK so they will build dams spending billions of $$$ and years and Pakistan will just bomb it. Pakistan will have all the rights since IWT is ratified by UN and India as well.
Just pure drama

shahkhizar1

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Easy solution if they keep this up for more than 2 years. Conduct another underground nuclear test to remind them (it may repercussion but nothing is more crucial than water).

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Finally 56 inch is doing what it was supposed to do

idiot_idol

It would be interesting to see if bilawal bhutto , who recently gave a war threat to india over rivers 

Actually declares war.....

CartographerOwn3656

Pushing Pakistan to the very edge and making them accept our conditions OR do something foolish is genius. Never before did we have the diplomatic power or leadership to pull off things like this.

Budget_Put1517

Famous_Plate_1390

Finally some foreign policy decision I can support this government on. 



Now they need to make sure that Bangladesh comes back to us. Too much hobnobbing is happening among Pak, China and Bangladesh lately.

Cub_Millenial

Good, now make arrangements to divert water in India, cut-off indus river to pakis

srinidhi1

This is the only language they understand if you de-escalate or try peaceful options they look at you as you are scared or weak they look at compassion or empathy as weakness, they have ruined themselves in hatred, they have thought so much of attacking us that they didn't have anything to defend themselves with they didn't anticipate that India will actually attack.

Zoltikk

Can't believe we had neck of pakistan in our hands and never tried to squeeze it in last 70 years.

Imagine if indian governments did this before, so many lives could have been saved from terrorism.

k2_mkwn

If congress wins next election they will start it back.

ROC_K4LP

good, now start building massive dams on it.

Abhi_1610

Pakistan licked trumps ass. Nobel peace prize and shit. Modi just upped the pressure to 100. Lulz

stockist420

__Animoseanomaly3

But I really don't get it? didn't pakistan win the war? how can India permanently suspend the treaty if Pakistan won the war? It's almost like Pakistan didn't win the war!!!

_RaXXoN_

Unstoppable_X_Force

Roopesh80

Rahul G will say let me come to power and write  an article on how restoring IWT would uplift society and save constitution 🤣

rajrohit26

Should have been a decision at 1965. Already delayed by 60 years.

xerxes_dandy

Who said this? An unknown expert? Reuters is the last org one should trust.

ic_97

Entire Paki kashmir jumla is for the water. Nehruji with his panchasheel diplomacy agreed to give 80% water and 62 million pound in 1960 ( we could've used the money ourselves) to build canals. Calling a good will gesture for this ideocracy is crime. 

This deal is negotiated between India,pakistan and world bank as a mediator. Pakistan approached world bank already but current president[ Ajay Banga](https://www.worldbank.org/ext/en/who-we-are/leadership/ajay-banga) is an Indian guy (coincidence ?). He already said that world bank won't interfere with India's decision.

Pakistan has no other option than doing it's most effective thing and that is being a beggar to India for water.

settayi

Love it! Finally a new normal. Now dry the idiots out.

iamarddtusr

Where are left Indians 🤣🤣 crying in corner I guess. Unk p@kistani bhiyon ki bht tension ho rhi hogi.
Feminists(kuch) toh kapde hi faad dengi haay mera P@kistan haay mera p@kistan🤣

Limp_Fuel_4596

Finally. Such an unequal treaty should've never been signed. Even Nehru knew it was a bad treaty for us, he signed it because he hoped he could basically bribe Pakistan into being a reasonable country, such was his obsession with "peaceful solutions". It's time to use our water for our benefit, not to sow the seeds of terrorism in that failed state.

ididacannonball

Trump chachaa beech fir se beech mein koodi maarenge..

vjzcool

But no any news on news channel medias. Why?

seaworthy14698

Now that’s like my Modi ji. Swaaad hi laaa dittA aaj the.

not_the_scammer

The reality is we need 20+ dams to stop all the water flowing to Pakistan but we don't need to do that. If we can use our water for our own people then that's enough. 
And Suspending treaty is the first step to that and we must support that.

Feeling-Front6187

Power move. 

Pakistan will now ask US to intervene. India will make demands, US will agree…(probably). US gets Pakistan bases to be closer to China. India is left alone. Pakistan is the real loser here.

silverport

Honestly at this point in time, we should start looking into taking Pakistan's coastline access. That will immediately remove any reason for western interference. Once we get that, we can do as we please.

God-of-Heroes_ArThuR

Ab koi apni khud ki fielding lagane ke liye ayega. Bamboo dalvake jayega😂
Iykyk

Reasonable-Fish-6678

Now we talking...


Now build the grid...

Take my money. And start the work.

Soend the monet here  Instead of lassan behen yojana..

Rude_Issue_5972

 Build the damn, then we will believe it.

Less-Dingo111

hitman_25

![gif](giphy|TOA0O8KNewtIMkut5E|downsized)

faf_da

Are we really going to support this act of denying a basic human need?

Downvotes show people can't get sarcasm. But I guess that's because there'll be many stupid pseudointellectuals who would actually have this sort of pov.

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They should think about water before sending terrorists

sayzitlikeitis

How the fuck is every step taken by India is a geopolitical threat, but Pakistan gets an imf bailout. Fuck this shit. Just stop the water.

nz_mish_mosh

Pakistan sends tons of terrorist, is a manufacturing facility for terrorist, openly threats the neighbours with nuclear arms and yet nobody bats an eye, India threatens to close the water and suddenly everyone loses their shit

Lyner005

You keep on sending terrorist and think our actions are unjust.

sharkpeid

We are always the one who have to compromise right? Pakistan can do anything and they'd just another billion from the imf.

MuriManDog14

Scroll back to their true agendas.

&gt;the threat is less about India cutting off water flows – an unlikely and technically challenging act – and more about the erosion of trust

Only the scumbags at scroll have any trust in Pakistanis. How many more Indians need to die to terrorism for people like these to finally lose trust in their beloved country Pakistan?

__DraGooN_

They are river India can revive to dibert the water

groundzero989

k---mkay

gonyere

Does that mean they are all gonna just fuckin die?

innovatedname

I imagine Trump will be returning his Nobel Peace Prize?

JPMorgansStache

Political and religious differences have caused many a war. Water though? That’s next level war material right there.

Personal-Bell-3420

SaltyShawarma

I thought Trump negotiated all this and is getting a Nobel prize?

ilovemydog480

Because they're going to sign a NEW Indus water treaty?


A better one! with handholding, singing kumbaya, and shared peace and prosperity transcending ancient religious gobbledygook!


Please?

PresumedSapient

Colonel-KWP

The same fucking day Pakistan is talking about a peace prize for Trump over its relationship with India?!

froman-dizze

Sure would be nice if, instead of all fighting each other like dumb monke, we could all focus on science and figuring out the best way to mitigate climate change and manage resources of the earth. If we spent even a fraction of the time we spend on stupid shit like culture wars and actual wars, we might actually get somewhere.

Worldly_Anybody_9219

Western-Corner-431

Someone call Donald. He’ll fix it right up.

Character_Pie_5368

Shawn3997

today I was thinking, we need more wars in the world

imCzaR

Every part of this timeline can fuck right off

SpitefulRedditScum

It's not actually enforceable as India would have to build several new dams, there'd be a lot of negotiation, and ultimately we'd fire missiles at those dams.

Then we can have another skirmish, India will lose some aircraft, we'll get hit a few times and if it gets bad enough we'll run to China.

Nobody is going hot war, let alone nuclear war, over spite like this. India, while undoubtedly stronger, just doesn't have the assymetry in power that its media tries to portray to it's citizens.

Autofire2

Lots of keyboard warriors in the comments with just as much idea about IWT as their IQs.

ZERO

lone_Ghatak

Water wars have begun. AI war coming. Are we ever going to get the eugenics war?

Difficult_Prize_5430

The Indus Water Treaty was probably the only good bit of Diplomacy the US did with India-Pakistan during the Cold war.

Birdmonster115599

They're gonna need to build more dams if they want to deny Pakistan water.

I suspect denying water to a downstream country is also against international law

Xscaper

Fun stuff. Gonna go make the Water Knife into real life instead of sci fi.

UselessInsight

Pakistan wastes more water every year from the Indus River flow than India was allowed according to the erstwhile IWT. While India has built extensive catchment and irrigation infrastructure Pakistan has used their resources to build their military and terrorist infra. If they can’t be bothered to use the water, they don’t deserve it. Maybe this will be a wake up call for that country. Maybe they’ll mend their ways and stop prioritizing “bleeding India through a thousand cuts” (self acknowledged Pakistani military policy).

RedandWhiteFan

Ambitious_Ad1822

I don't care what they've done, but if you take a basic need like water away from regular humans to punish a country's government, for any reason really.  You're just another genocidal maniac.

A government does not make a country, and not all of those Pakistani people that will suffer are bad people.

UnlikelyRabbit4648

[The most famous](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxcfHFULzC0) Water War of our time.

BadDabbler

loonyfly

Punjab Chief Minister Bhagwant Mann has proposed diverting Chenab waters to Punjab and Haryana to address ongoing disputes related to water sharing under the Indus Water Treaty (IWT). In light of the situation, Mann has indicated that additional water will be allocated to Haryana, while former Haryana Chief Minister Hooda has criticized the current government's lack of direct engagement regarding these issues, urging them to file a contempt of court.

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