The public overwhelmingly disapproves of Russia's actions regarding the MH17 disaster, expressing frustration over the perceived lack of accountability and the slow pace of justice. While some see the court's ruling as a positive step, many believe it lacks enforceability against Russia. There are strong calls for more substantial international intervention and accountability, particularly directed at the Malaysian government.

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People really need to protest this, it’s not good enough to have the government looking to make deals with Russia when they have some real explaining to do.

I don’t know why people aren’t giving this more airtime and shoving it in the face of politicians. They need to understand that there are people harmed by this and that other countries are trying to persecute this case against Russia.

gozieson

As you can see by now, Malaysian politicians and leaders do not operate on any principles, save for the principle of being opportunistic bloodsuckers.

Giantstoneball

This opens the door for 43 Malaysia victims family to file lawsuit with the international court.

Our home and foreign ministries should file a joint suits as well. 

Oh nevermind our head of state is Putin’s lapdog. 

Israel has never killed Malaysian. US has never killed Malaysian. Russia killed 43 of us. That useless lapdog flew 18 hours all the way to Moscow just to shake his hand. Smiling too.

puppymaster123

The reality is, when other super powers do bad things and we do business with them.. Will we say our PM is arse for doing business with them? Do we cut ties with those super power countries?

Moral victory maybe.. Justice is difficult with the current world setup especially if you are on the wrong end.

SnooOranges6925

Our idiot PM went to Russia to kiss Putins ass some more.

ExposedInfinity

In The Star newspaper today : Russian foreign minister Lavrov touches down in Malaysia

[https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025/07/10/russian-foreign-minister-lavrov-touches-down-in-malaysia](https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025/07/10/russian-foreign-minister-lavrov-touches-down-in-malaysia)

So it looks like Malaysia doesn't care about Ruzzia shooting down our civilian airplane.

drteddy70

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BFF. BRICS forever.

ayamkenabannedtwice

And? What's anybody going to do about it?

giggity2099

Why should we believe the Russian enemy? By default, the report from its swarn enemy should not be taken wholesale. The reason they say that Russian this is because the weapon is Russian made. By that logic, all tragedy in Africa is done by the US or France as all weapons use there is from those 2 countries

flying69monkey

Meanwhile...

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BuckDenny

In the weeks leading up to the MH17 disaster, several aircraft were shot down over eastern Ukraine — making the decision to allow passenger planes to fly through the area at the very least highly questionable. Below are the relevant facts and why many people rightly believe the Netherlands bears partial responsibility for failing to act:

# ✈️ What happened before July 17, 2014?

In the three weeks prior to the crash:

* **June 14, 2014**: A Ukrainian transport aircraft (Il-76) was shot down near Luhansk. All 49 people on board were killed.
* **June 24, 2014**: A Ukrainian military helicopter was shot down.
* **July 14, 2014**: Another military aircraft (Antonov An-26) was hit at an altitude of 6,500 meters — much higher than previously thought possible.
* **July 16, 2014 (1 day before MH17)**: A Ukrainian fighter jet (SU-25) was downed, possibly from Russian territory.

# ➤ Clear escalation in air defense activity

It was known among multiple countries, including NATO members, that heavy weaponry was present in the region — possibly including radar-guided anti-aircraft systems like the BUK.

# 🛑 What did the Netherlands (not) do?

* **No active travel advisory** was issued to avoid the airspace.
* **KLM was still flying over the region** (alongside dozens of other airlines).
* **Dutch intelligence services were aware of the situation**, but this information was not translated into concrete action for civilian aviation.

Even when **American and German intelligence services warned** that the airspace over eastern Ukraine was unsafe, the Netherlands did **not act on it seriously**, or at the very least did not share the information with airlines or the public.

DegreeHorror9396

# 🧑‍⚖️ What did the Dutch Safety Board (OVV) say?

In its 2015 report, the OVV concluded:

* **Ukraine should have fully closed the airspace** over the conflict zone.
* But also: **aviation authorities and governments (including the Netherlands) should have better assessed the risks**.
* **Too much trust was placed in the fact that the airspace was ‘formally open’**, instead of independently evaluating the threat level.

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# ❗ Conclusion: gross negligence

Your point is valid. Despite clear warning signs:

* **The airspace was not sufficiently avoided**, including by KLM and Malaysia Airlines.
* **The Dutch government failed in its duty of care** to properly warn its citizens and airlines.
* And to this day, **political responsibility — particularly under Prime Minister Rutte’s leadership — has never been fully acknowledged or addressed**, as many victims’ families and critics continue to demand.🧑‍⚖️ What did the Dutch Safety Board (OVV) say? In its 2015 report, the OVV concluded:    Ukraine should have fully closed the airspace over the conflict zone.       But also: aviation authorities and governments (including the Netherlands) should have better assessed the risks.       Too much trust was placed in the fact that the airspace was ‘formally open’, instead of independently evaluating the threat level.       “There was sufficient reason for governments and airlines to reconsider flight routes.”  – Dutch Safety Board (2015)     ❗ Conclusion: gross negligence Your point is valid. Despite clear warning signs:    The airspace was not sufficiently avoided, including by KLM and Malaysia Airlines.       The Dutch government failed in its duty of care to properly warn its citizens and airlines.       And to this day, political responsibility — particularly under Prime Minister Rutte’s leadership — has never been fully acknowledged or addressed, as many victims’ families and critics continue to demand.

News snippet: The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) found Russia responsible for the downing of Flight MH17, a Malaysian airliner shot down by Russian proxy forces in Ukraine in July 2014, according to a July 9 statement.

The Strasbourg-based court also found Russia accountable for "widespread and flagrant abuses of human rights" during its war against Ukraine that began with aggression in Donbas in 2014 and escalated after the full-scale invasion in 2022.

This marks the first case of an international court finding Russia accountable for the downing of the plane and for human rights abuses during its war against Ukraine.

The ruling concerns four cases lodged by Ukraine and the Netherlands against Russia between 2014 and 2022, before Russia was expelled from the court following the outbreak of the full-scale war.

Flight MH17 was shot down over Ukraine's Donetsk Oblast on July 17, 2014, by a Buk missile operated by Russian proxy forces. All 283 passengers and 15 crew members on board, among them 196 Dutch citizens, were killed.

Russia never claimed responsibility for the disaster, instead fanning conspiracy theories to shift the blame elsewhere.

AndroidOne1

NoLife2762

TriggerHappyLettuce

BoopsTheSnoot_

Russia doesn’t care. They will just continue bombing my country

JustEagle1

Good luck getting anything from them.   
Best we can do is to help Ukraine.

Jack-O7

Irrelevant in a world with thermonuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Unfortunate but true. And that's how Ruzzia gets away with murder.

TheKiwiPrepper

It's almost as if we had pictures of them stealing lipstick, credit cards and plush toys from the crash site less than an hour after the crash.   
11 years? 11 years it took the court? And however long it takes for even 1% of the responsible ones to be brought to justice?

AdEmotional9991

Let's hope this opens a path to seize the frozen russian assets.

achimundso

Didn't even take long for the Netherlands to forget all about it and elect russian sympathizers.

lithuanian_potatfan

not_just_putin

It's always hilarious when these international organizations like the UN deem something inhumane or unfair or whatever. Like, sure, but what are you gonna do about it?

Ok_Temperature6503

barcap

all talk and no action, status quo if I’ve ever seen it

Panda_tears

RetroviewsGaming

Bears shit in woods, Europe's human rights court rules

KarloReddit

And now they can really start to point that finger at Russia. You are really really bad. Take that!

SpecialistChance0

Justice takes time. Truth takes longer. But both just showed up.

vabankas

matthewc74

TechnologyPale329

Lets defund the court. Its a waste of money. Just points out obvious things and no mechanism for justice

Swimming_Mark7407

finally. this is the reason why i started to follow this conflict. MH17 in 2014.

captain-lowrider

Darcy_2021

"But we're still going to buy stuff from Russia"

captain554

A mafia run petrol station masquerading as a civilisation.

Senseofimpendingtomb


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StillLoadingProblems

As always, there are no consequences for Russia.

hukep

I thought we knew this already? Or was that different one?

eyeballburger

US republicans are still going to find a way to defend Russia and tell Ukraine to pull itself up by the bootstraps

haveabeerwithfear

Oh wow that's great news. That means that before 2040 they will also find them responsible for the invasion of Ukraine which is faster than what Republicans will do

kadaka80

Half the strategy in all countries is putting old skin bags at the helm and dragging ass in court so they’re dead by the time there’s any whiff of repercussions. Zero accountability will lead to different forms of accountability.

DowntimeJEM

Cool. When does it become enough to fully back and defend Ukraine as a consequence of attacking the free world?

[deleted]

Cool. What are they going to do about it?

moritsunee

OHCHEEKY

Where was this court when Tony Blair was PM during the Iraq War?

JaronJervis

Coinsworthy

In tomorrow's news, Europe discovers that water is wet

DensetsuNoBaka

DankeSebVettel

I always think of that Australian couple who lost all 3 of their children on this flight. So many kids were on board. I hope the ppl responsible for this war crime get what they deserve in this life and the afterlife.

kisunemaison

Oh really, how are we gonna punish them, we have Israel doing human rights violation, usa doing it.

lostwisdom20

Wow. I knew Russia did it when it happened

Candid_Relief_321

“We have decided ………. That you are not orcs.”

Yeah, no shit. Now send European soldiers to support Ukraine.

LeftHookLarry12

Default judgement, Russia did not participate in the trial. Since Russia is practically in a state of war with Europe and the US, this is not surprising. A European court can't be considered impartial.

YoursTrulyKindly

00azthrow00

In other news: The sky is blue, and water is wet. More at 11.

ArgonWilde

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Was there a court verdict for this?

dipdaabyss

Russia couldn’t give a shit. Hoodlum state.

legardeur2

The European Court of Human Rights ruled that Russia was responsible for the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 in 2014.

Russia Responsible for MH17 Downing and Human Rights Violations

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