Public sentiment regarding US military aid to Ukraine is polarized. Many support Ukraine, emphasizing solidarity against Russian aggression, while others express frustration over the effectiveness of the aid and prioritize domestic issues. Concerns about financial implications for American taxpayers and the involvement of the US military-industrial complex are prevalent, leading to skepticism about the overall strategy.

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Funny how this coincides about the same time putin is trying to amass 100k troops. Very funny timing indeed.

Revenga8

What can you do?

If you're American, contact (preferably call) your representatives. The American Coalition for Ukraine has a form &amp; text you can use: [https://ujoin.co/campaigns/3912/actions/public?action\_id=5670](https://ujoin.co/campaigns/3912/actions/public?action_id=5670) \- it will take you two minutes.

abitStoic

For those who say that they are ruzzian agents or traitors, I don't think so. 

While I thought so previously, I actually think these are people who are vile, craven short sighted fools who are so full of hubris that they cannot comprehend that America's any sort of greatness is dependent on the good will of its allies.

I've talked to these people and they are so convinced that the USA can withstand completely against the world and somehow come up on top. They believe that America can take advantage of anybody and everybody, that they can break their agreements and their word to everyone, that they are the most capable and the best and strongest and the richest and .... THAT THIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE SO.

What they can't comprehend, is that their shortsighted actions today poison people against them in the future. A ton of lead is as heavy as a ton of feathers. And they keep accumulating the feathers.

kozak_

AFAIK, Trump hasn't approved a single new aid package to Ukraine since being elected. Everything that has gone to Ukraine was already pre-arranged, or simply having them sign off on foreign transfers (EU owned US stuff). 

155 shells is very concerning. We now have 2 factories almost fully operational with 24/7 production. The long term plan for these was to always produce enough not just to maintain the fight in ukraine, but also produce excess for our own reserves that have been emptied.

Sabre_One

Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦 
NEVER SURRENDER

ubo17

If the US is negotiating new arms sales in the Middle East, are we to assume those contracts can't be filled because of "low inventory"? If Ukraine can't even BUY US-made ordinance, something doesn't square up with the US government's military hardware business.

MeasurementMobile747

We know it’s not about depleted stockpiles. Putin called his minions in Washington and there you go. Washington is now for sale to the highest bidder.

MindPitt314

We know, it’s just Trump’s excuse to get out of helping Ukraine.

StrengthDazzling8922

This current Trump administration is absolutely vile. Probably paid-off by Russians.

jvo203

Keep calling, keep hitting up their social media! This is unforgivable, they know that and still don't give one damn! Look at that bill yesterday, that affects his people the most! He doesn't even care about the idiots that put us all in this situation.

If you're like me and your senators support Ukraine, then start calling everybody else's, be relentless and don't stop! If you're on this sub and you're American, I still believe we will get through this, but not without a lot of noise and a lot of good trouble.

Dwayla

It's because there's a Russian asset in the white house

Scottyd737

The fact that it has nothing to do with deleted stocks was obvious - honestly by now I read news from US admin about the same as I do from kremlin: a disregarding "yeah right". 

But what I didn't expect and appreciate is your analysis. Thanks for clarity.

DryCloud9903

&gt;This decision is just another example of Trump Admin officials actively working against the President's own agenda.

It is not. Trump isn't keen on letting Ukraine win, or help in any kind. This is yet another happenstance of "Trump lied again, in public"

NoCardiologist615

Ok_Tie_7564

We all understand what is really happening

ProfessorWild563

I don’t need a whole article to let me know it’s all BS.

ptrang1987

Strontiumdogs1

We Europeans have to do more. I know it is difficult, because we rely so much on the US, but we have to, because they are not allies anymore

Soft-Cartoonist-9542

https://www.twz.com/news-features/fears-of-disaster-brewing-for-ukraine-as-u-s-halts-weapons-shipments-over-stockpile-concerns

I am sick about where we are.  The answer was to have invoked the defense production act 3 years ago, but we did not.   It is  not about this list.    It was what was sent before and what will be needed after.  It is a demand  that has been going on with no end in site and other world hot spots to consider.  It is no secret that demand has outstripped production.  Calling the AT-4 a gun does not lead to analytical confidence.  If US weapons are curtailed, then there is no leverage to demand a halt to Ukrainian strikes on ruzzia's refineries and electrical plants, which I hope resume shortly.

Joey1849

We know. It’s because Shitler is an active Russian asset. Always was, always will be. Jail the fuck

wildyam

Trump needs a lot of weapons to kickstart his personal arm of loyal military,



 ICE. They just got same funding as marines.

Vivarevo

It is proven that trump and his pos minions are influenced by the kremlin.

Armedfist

Hope Europe can step up qnd become the arsenal of democracy. 


As a European, I hate how little we have done to help our Ukrainian friends in all those years

APC2_19

Yup.. we know!

It's 'daddy' trump being a smart ass... the fault is with european leaders who keep procrastinating in lack of political will and practical solutions..



WAKE UP EUROPE!!! THE DAYS OF 'MURICA COMING TO YOUR RESCUE ARE LONG GONE, THEY TOOK THE SCIENTISTS, THEY GOT THEIR NUCLEAR BOMB, IT'S UP TO YOU TO PROTECT YOURSELF NOW!!!!!

Individual-Cream-581

LamarVannoi

Anything said by the current government is a pile of bullshit

Maritimer4ever

🤔Trump loves Putin and he's probably using aid to Ukraine as an extortion play to get unreasonable trade suffrage from Europe and Canada while Putin is bombing women and children in schools and hospitals. This American regime is brutal.

Puzzled_Worth_4287

&gt; The DoD is still actually tens of billions of dollars in the hole on Ukraine replacement requirements. The Biden Admin never requested enough money for that purpose, so even if the Trump Admin doesn't send 1 new bullet, they need to ask Congress for more money.

Congress just passed that yesterday.

Anyway, don't read too much into it.   Your "exact list" is peanuts and there is a reason for that.  The DoD has been trying to spread out where they are pulling this stuff from.  They were pulling way to much from one specific brigade and they need to balance it out.  They are still getting other stuff from us, including the most valuable of all--intel.

TheRedPike

I MEAN CMON trump has been putins cock puppet for awhile trump comes prelubed to every meeting

TheTurdtones

What other arterial motives could these guys have for stopping weapons shipments when they didn't have to hmm, well I'm sure the Americans will figure it out one day..

chorey

This assumes the people that think this can or would read something like it. It's not about facts or logic for these people, its all an emotional response: "I don't want to share, even if helping you would help me and we'd both be richer/better off."

FeedbackFinance

MudrakM

USA Military has its own super special DEMIL department whose job is to destroy old munitions.

USA has plenty of ammo.  The old ammo some of it is from the Korean War.

Watch the movie War Dogs, it is a TRUE story.

DistributionBroad173

Let's be crystal clear. The US has renewed NOTHING. Until weapons supply restarts, they've stopped the supply.

Inside_Ad_7162

Ukraine and Europe can't keep enduring this BS from Trump. 

All plans moving forward should be entirely under the assumption that the US aid is completely cut off. Because if the plans considers US help in someway it will just be undermined by Trump every single time. 

Ukraine and Europe needs to move forward alone and make plans to take back Ukraine territory from Russia. And anything extra from the US would just be a bonus....

wizgset27

This American administration is a fucking disaster. There is a clear divide of interests of russian dicksuckers and Ukraine supporters, people are making decisions without informing the president, and the president has a reputation of chickening out on most things.

Like this American administration is a fucking disaster from every direction you look at it from.

E17Omm

Has anyone in Ukraine confirm weapons are being supplied again yet? Because that article has nothing more than 'trump says', which is completely meaningless. A bit like ruZZia's frequent delay tactics.

canspop

This reminds me of an abusive relationship so much.

Bullinach1nashop

Read in another reddit post that trump promised ten patriot missiles. Ten. Missiles.

Not systems

Not even launcher tubes 

Just ten damn missiles.

Now idk how true this is since I did only read the reddit post, so take this with q billion grains of salt

But it's also trump, and trump has said many crazy things

heavy_metal_soldier


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GarlicThread

If Trump just came out and said "I'm on team Putin" he'd be giving his opposition fodder... fodder that would validate all the Russian collusion allegations he's caused by all the Russian collusion he's done. Instead, he's just catastrophically incompetent. 

When the impact of this incompetence is indistinguishable from an active attack, the term one can use is 'simple sabotage'. The OSS, the precursor to the CIA, wrote a field manual on the practice. I don't say that to suppose Trump would be educated in such matters but rather he's so fucking incompetent that it might as well be an active attack from an enemy and not "help" from an "ally".

Sweaty-Feedback-1482

Those news are so pathetic, in the beginning of the war US was sending 2 billions every other week and it was peanuts because ukraine and russia each were spending hundreds of billions (adjusted to US purchase power dollars)

Now there is no approrpiation, only scraping the botton of what was left of a 50B thats 99.99% already spent and still trump freezes that meager 30 patriot interceptors that can stop half a day of russian ballistic missiles and then reinstates it again and make the news all around the world on how trump is supporting ukraine

Its all fake, trump is a russian agent, there was no meaningfull help comming under biden and there will never be under trump, sinc every russian tanker and things might start to change, i want to save the enviorement but fuck those fishes, let ukranians survive

xixipinga

Honestly, it feels like Ukraine is being used as a pawn here so Trump can get Putin's attention. Make no mistake -- if the wind changes direction again and Putin gives Trump the time of day; Ukraine can absolutely suffer those consequences. Trumps words have shown time and time again they're meaningless - unless maybe it's something cruel. 

I absolutely detest how this administration is treating Ukraine. What a worldwide embarrassment.

Old-Cheesecake8818

These are incredibly basic categories; what does budget support even mean? Also where does the rest go?

BearlyAwesomeHeretic

Isn't most of the 70B going back to the American war businesses

slatchaw

Should've sent more weapons and less cash back in 2022.

RNKKNR

These kinds of things are always so misleading.

So, we sent them $70.6B in weapons, equipment, and other military support.

Thing is, it isn't like we made stuff and sent it to them.  We sent them old stuff, sitting outside going unused, in the possibility they may need to be called upon some day.  It was mostly obsolete equipment, no longer considered for "front line" use.  Stuff was built decades ago, and most of it had a LOT of mileage and wear and tear.

As for weapons, here is the thing.  America makes tons of ordnance.  From air to air missiles, air to surface missiles, anti-tank missiles, small arms ammo, etc, etc.  All of these things do not live forever.  They are built, stored, and at some point expire.  When those things are about to expire, they are often shipped to front line units to shoot off for training purposes.  We keep massive stockpiles so we have them ready in case of war, and our troops cannot even shoot them off fast enough in peacetime.  When our long war in Afghanistan was mostly limited engagements, we didn't get a lot of use for many of these weapons.  So, instead of just sending them back to the manufacturer, who charges a fee to dispose of them, we threw them on a ship for Ukraine.

Imagine you have 2 pretty new cars, and your kid got your previous cars.  After 10 years, your kids move out, and buy themselves new cars.  Their old cars would be what was given to Ukraine.  They still work, but are not really costing you anything at all to just get rid of them.  You got your money's worth out of them.

There is just a lot more to "$70B in military aid" than people realize, and many people think somehow that \*cost\* America that much, but in reality it probably didn't even cost 10% of that in transportation charges and spare parts.

And that old ass ammo?  It sometimes isn't that reliable either.  I saw a good chunk of "old TOW" (anti-tank missiles) get fired off at multiple army posts that flew out of the tube and went straight into the air or straight into the ground.  THAT is what we are giving them, and they are making that shit work.

We spent trillions fighting Russia in the cold war, and now we could end it, forever, and completely, by just a steady stream of old crap going to Ukraine.

bad_syntax

I don't get how this ever became "controversial" but yet here we are

Southern_Jaguar

I _see_ those numbers, but I _know_ that we've sent $350B to Ukraine and they lost all the money. That's what I saw on Twitter so I know it's true. 
-MAGA

rdbpdx

Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal in exchange for treaties with Russia and the west. The former involved no invasions and the latter involved protection. They’ve now been screwed over by both sides.

akshayjamwal

Any existing visualizations on the overhead costs? Spent time at the HQ in charge of UKR military assistance and I know there were costs in buffing up our own deterrence measures in Europe, plans to evac US citizens, etc. 

Waiting for the "should've spent it on this niche focus area or let me keep my ~$80/yr, what a waste!" to see who lacks understanding of how global issues impact joe-selfish internet gnome's need to buy more stuff.

berowe

Now we just need a visualization for the people in the back thinking we are literally strapping money to pallets and flying it over to Ukraine for them to understand that we're basically instead giving Ukraine a gift card to the American Military Industrial Complex store so that money is ultimately going to Americans to produce the weapons and vehicles we give to Ukraine. 

SecondBestNameEver

I have a question about these numbers? Is it based on the “value” of the items they sent them? From what I understand, the US enormously inflate the price of their weapons vs other countries…. So $100m from Europe may actually be worth more than $195m from the US? Or have I got that completely wrong?

Global-Cattle-6285

Also, a lot of the weapons are old stock that needed to be replaced soon too, either through refurbishing or complete replacement. Now, the military complex and supply chain gets more orders, which means more more money, which means more jobs.

waterloograd

fluxdeken_

looks like the weapons manufacturers gettin paid.

Snoo-80626

thebadsteveo

More nonsense, we all know and can freely gather the total amount online, $112billion my guess is Trumps total of $300billion is all foreign aid total the USA has given away but it didn't go to Ukraine that's for sure.

lostmanak

So, sweet fuck all, as % of GDP over 3 years even not allowing for the good points made elsewhere that these are inflated numbers

Representing these numbers without any indication of percentage of GDP is either intentionally or unintentionally misleading

icelandichorsey

I always wonder how Hawaii feels about this after being ignored by the federal govt.

tibbymat

So we spent like 3% of what we willingly spent in Iraqistan and we're squealing like pigs. Ok then.

phdoofus

The amount **allocated** is not the same as the amount received. 

There are already a lot of comments about how most of the spending is done in the U.S. but I haven't seen anything about how much of the allocated hasn't been spent or received by the Ukrainians. This isn't a trivial amount.

BrupieD

The U.S. Congress has voted through five bills that have provided Ukraine with aid since the war began, doing so most recently in April 2024. The total budget authority under these bills—the “headline” figure often cited by news media—is $175 billion. The historic sums have helped a broad set of Ukrainian people and institutions, including refugees, law enforcement, and independent radio broadcasters, though most of the aid has been military-related. In late 2024, the United States also provided the Ukrainian government with a $20 billion loan, funded by interest generated from frozen Russian assets.

It’s important to note that of the total U.S. government spending related to the war, about $128 billion directly aids the government of Ukraine, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy. Most of the remainder has funded various U.S. activities associated with the war in Ukraine, and a small portion has supported other affected countries in the region. [See more charts](https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine?utm_medium=social_owned&amp;utm_source=reddit) on aid to Ukraine.

CFR_org

Before this whole thing started, Ukraine was on a blacklist of countries with which my particular pie wedge of the military-industrial complex was forbidden from doing any business.

In the last three years, a pretty sizable slice of the lower rectangle there has come straight from the plant at which I work.  Crazy how things go.

csamsh

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Actual aid received is estimated to be less than half of official figures

https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/new-analysis-economists-ukraine-cost-us-aid-ukraine-less-half-official-figures

Regardless, it’s one of the most cost effective &amp; valuable use of funds around. Consider how much the US spent on the Cold War. Ukraine manages to defend its country from Russia (and by extension, Europe, NATO and the US) and inflict significant military blows on Russia with relatively little funds, thanks to the ingenuity and dedication of the fighting populace. Nil US lives have been lost in this war, nil US soldiers deployed. Plus, the US promised Ukraine support in the 90s in exchange for them giving up their nuclear capabilities, so withdrawing aid/turning their back on Russia is both breaking a promise and threatening global stability.

Luieeg-my-angione

To note that this is the formal number, but if you detract the loans and cost of weapons due to be scrapped you are more around 50 billions. Same obv for European aid. 


https://econ4ua.org/aid-value/

Alexandros6

In 2019, CFR (who made this graph) was criticized for accepting a donation from Len Blavatnik, a Ukrainian-born billionaire with close links to Vladimir Putin.[21] The council was reported to be under fire from its own members and dozens of international affairs experts over its acceptance of a $12 million gift to fund an internship program.

Junior_Blackberry779

genuine question.. so could the different numbers be from some people saying that using several dedicated military satellites and intelligence services costs money and then attaching some arbitrary number or is that accounted for in the original totals/graphs?

geddie01

Now what out of that is actually liquid cash

Hissingfever_

Which one of these include the politicians' pockets?

HatCat2012

How much aid has the USA given to illegals and their offspring by presidential term?

googleinvasive

And how much of that went to US companies to build and manufacture missiles and anything else we send them that's made by US companies. Helping boost our economy also

Maednezz

Also how is this OC if you literally are screenshotting a graph from a government organization? Did you do this?

Can you highlight the 100B Ukraine “lost”?

swettm

We call it aid but a large chunk of the money 'given' to Ukraine is to be paid back with interest. So it's like a loan. Aid to NGOs, however, is not a loan.

red8reader

Let's take just the cash support. At $50B. This is approximately $600 for my family of four. I'm willing to spend that to support Ukraine, but I can understand another family that questions that amount. I've personally only donated $100 to Ukrainian charities, and I imagine that's on the high side.

flerchin

Imagine the $57.5 Billion that is not weaponry being used instead to fill in potholes on the roads.

Preform_Perform

Cheaper than appeasement. We learned that in 1938 but too many have forgotten.

Numerous_Recording87

A1700AW

This was expected.

One little detail that happened before the inauguration was switching the logistical framework for aid to Ukraine away from being centered around the US.  While the US isn't providing aid now, the rest of NATO is, and these arrangements were set up well in advance.

Sad, but preparing for this was something Biden did, and coordinated with our allies, before leaving.

MyUsername2459

This was tweeted 7 hrs ago...

[https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1896604107454263494](https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1896604107454263494)  
US arms shipments to Ukraine continued today, with a United States Transportation Command-chartered Boeing 747 landing in Rzeszow this afternoon, the gateway for western aid to Ukraine.

Zonkoholic

Pacifist_Socialist

People just going to keep pretending to forget that Russia is an enemy and they want to overtake us?  Do they really think the leader of a competitive country that's been in power for **24 years** is content with having a country that shrank in size and influence while he was in the KGB?

Anus_master

I hope Europe makes a difference and quickly. Right now we have so many issues and the idea of Russia winning this makes me incredibly sad. I should have known this was the move when the cyber defense against Russia order went out. 

For YEARS, Army officials wanted to put the bear down. This was the best way to do it without putting a Soldier at Risk. You know in a week he will lift the sanctions

Milestailsprowe

KEITHKILL

"Are we the baddies"?

*as I ponder the skull emblem on my new field cap

Brilliant-Map-4515

Team Russia!!!! Thank goodness we’ve isolated ourselves from western democracies! We’re going to be a pariah among nations…..can’t believe I spent a decade in uniform waste of time

Interesting-Hand3334

Curse our sudden but inevitable betrayal.

DownloadableCheese

I’m glad DUI hire Pete Boozebreath is continuing to support the DODs multinational relations and uphold our NATO partnerships!

“We will take America without firing a shot”

lyingbaitcarpoftruth

It is disgraceful that we appease dictators. More so that we break our promises.

DeusHocVult

Last month they basically wanted Ukraine to give up $500 billion and surrender to Russia. Call it whatever on paper but is what the world sees. Meanwhile Putin has arrest warrants from the International Criminal Court. This is exactly why Mr. Zelensky doesn’t wear a suit. People in fancy suits think this shit makes sense. I don’t blame Ukraine for not surrendering.

I was lucky enough to have the opportunity to work on and deliver weapons to Ukraine when I was in Germany. I was proud to have done something and I hope it helped.

Ghostspider1989

This was the orange traitors plan all along

harley247

I heard for years that Biden pausing aid to Ukraine unless a guy resigned was, blackmail, extortion, and crime worthy of impeachment. I was told it was a YUGE deal.

WinnerSpecialist

I had a long post written about this but deleted it.  Suffice it to say that I'm disgusted and embarrassed.

AardvarkLeading5559

I would not be surprised if Trump redirected any Ukraine military aid directly to Russia.

Nano_Burger

Cool, maybe we'll get the funding for toilet paper and AAs now.

Upbeat-Oil-1787

The U.S. military is set to provide advanced Patriot missiles to Ukraine as part of ongoing support amidst the continuing conflict with Russia.

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