The public sentiment is characterized by strong skepticism and mistrust towards China, advocating for a firm stance against Chinese aggression. Many commenters highlight historical grievances and call for India to enhance its defense capabilities without overly relying on external support, particularly from the US. Despite some voices for peace, the prevailing view is one of caution and vigilance regarding China's intentions.

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The author's whole argument, that India will not take stances against China due to being reliant on critical sectors, is laid bare by the fact that India has already taken several anti-China steps since 2020 clash.

From joining QUAD and conducting multiple military exercises with the West, to banning many Chinese firms from operating in India, which have massively benefited Western firms, to collaborating on multiple technological fronts(space, medicine, AI, Defense, Rare earth mining)  with the West rather than with China,  already shows the impact of Chinese tactics on geopolitics in the region.

What's inevitably also true is that India is already a big enough pole in its own right and will not fall in line on all issues important to the West. After all, India is a Partner and not a treaty-bound ally like Japan, Australia etc.

BTW, let's not forget,  for more than 5 decades until the USSR fell, the same West had also taken many anti-India stances. The West back then was also using its leverage to make sure that India didn't have access to critical tech(nuclear, semiconductor, aviation, naval) when it was convenient for them.

Times have changed, and new geopolitics will slowly develop too. India will(and always has) balance its relations with its partners. It has its own geopolitics to cater to based on its own economic needs and potential.  And Western nations are very well aware of this fact! India will be a partner, not an ally! The author fails to admit this. Western nations don't see India and China through the same prism. They have been dealing with and adapting to this policy for over 7 decades!

neropro345

There is a lot that we in India share with China, including thousands of years of history, but you only need to look at the recent skirmish with Pakistan to understand that:

1. Short of actually fighting a war with India, China did everything it could to help Pakistan in every way.  Militarily, diplomatically, politically.


2. That even for the future China is doing every thing it can to support India’s prime enemy, Pakistan, including selling advanced military equipment.


3. That India’s sense of a direct enmity with China has only deepened, and that the core leadership in this country are unlikely to forget our northern neighbours’ open and aggressive support of Pakistan.

4. That China’s actions after the Pahalgam crisis are close to being the actions of an enemy. 

It is this increasingly widening fault line that western nations want to exploit.  How India and China manage it, that’s the question. 

I, for one, wouldn’t be surprised if there is an Indo -China skirmish in the next few years

Christmasstolegrinch

Every country which wants to gives its manufacturing sector push is dependent on china. Infact all countries are now dependent on china for raw material. This is not reason to justify that india is not against china

BROWN-MUNDA_

&gt;In the near term, as Modi pursues his ambition to turn India into global manufacturing powerhouse


That is a welcoming change, i have never understood India's obsession to skip manufacturing and go directly into service economy. It is a tried and true growth engine simultaneously providing mass employment, drives industrial capacity and stimulate demand. Perhaps it would push Modi to finish Nehru's agrarian reforms and unleash its labour force. 

Magicalsandwichpress

The article challenges the Western assumption that India is firmly aligned against China, arguing instead that India’s relationship with China is shaped more by economic interdependence and broadly shared worldviews as indicated by their UN votes than clear confrontation. It highlights how despite border tensions and strategic ties with the West, India remains deeply reliant on Chinese imports for critical sectors such as pharmaceuticals and green energy.

It is then argued that this reliance constrains India’s geopolitical maneuverability, making outright confrontation with China unlikely despite ongoing military standoffs. The piece ties this into how therefore India’s aspirations to become a manufacturing hub will paradoxically deepen its dependence on Chinese supply chains in the short to medium term. 

To conclude, the article ultimately urges Western policymakers to revise their expectations of India by recognizing that any alliance must contend with India’s caution and limited maneuverability as described.

Still_There3603

Perhaps Bajpaee is onto something. If India is unwilling to commit, perhaps the entire premise of an "Indo-Pacific" strategy, built on the assumption of Indian alignment, is more illusion than architecture. A more focused U.S. posture centered squarely on the Pacific, where reliable allies already exist and shared stakes are clearer may ultimately be th less distracted path.

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No. Indo-China relationship has gone beyond the point of returning and there's no way that both parties could sit down and work things out peacefully.

Prior to what happened in late April and early May 2025, China may still hold hope on India that India could come up with reasons and further negotiate terms with China. However, India chose to start a border skirmish with Pakistan in Kashmir and the chance of escalation will be rather high.

It is a blunt to China since China does not expect any major warfare in this area. And of course, it shocks Pakistan, too. A new truth is unveiled to the world that major powers like US, Russia, even India, have significantly lowered the threshold of attacking another sovereign country; a nonsense reason of counterterrorism is simply enough for a major regional all-out war.

For many years, US and China are both trying to pull the other side down to a war with its proxy in this or other region; by far, no one succeeds, because the stake is not high enough and the other countries are not stupid. India was offered a chance this time by US, a chance that India could replace China's position as world factory, a chance that could finally rip China apart and everyone will eat happily on China's corpses. And this chance has one pre-condition: to drag China into a war that he may wish not to fight but have to answer with power.

From this moment on, there's no possibility left between India and China of bringing "tranquility and peace". While China is claiming itself as leader of global south, India tries to tie itself close with old imperialists; prior to this moment, China may think India as their naughty and noisy neighbor; but after that, India is officially recognized as enemy.

China has offered Pakistan the necessary means to put unbearable pressure on top of India: new 5th gen stealth fighters, brand-new AEW&amp;C planes and most importantly, world's cutting-edge anti-ballistic missile system just like THAAD-ER. Combining with the satellite monitoring network in outer space and the surveillance radars high on the Himalayas, a new era of Sino-Indian relationship has dawned.

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When it comes to Russia, every accusation is a confession.  I have no doubt that Russia is doing exactly this.

The-M0untain

Russians must think that the West is almighty, if we can make China and India hate eachother, and their history has nothing to do with it.

FunRepeats

Yeah... Wouldn't have anything to do with China stabbing us in the back and invading us in 1962 and occupying Aksai Chin to this day. No, It's the west.

Otherwise_Pace_1133

It's just geopolitics, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Countries have been doing this for millenniums, nothing new

Belieber_420

Kwikstep

Every time the same, projections, projections, projections

Ventriloquist_Voice

yes the west totally pitched them against each other by ordering china's army to attack india in 2020.

total masterstroke by the west

Carmontelli

India can how see Russia has Chinas back and China has Pakistans.

Why India remains cozy with these Axis powers is remarkable.

EmotionFriendly1096

xtothewhy

If anyone is pushing anything against India, then it is China itself pushing Pakistan (and Bangladesh to some extent)

nrkishere

It is more taking advantage of not pitching them against each other. Same as they are doing with others.

Zieprus_

CrashingAtom

Damn. Didnt know America made China invade my country and reach within 100km of my home back in the 60s.

FlyingRaccoon_420

Indian and Russian bond is decades old and they are tied together. China and India have a long history of disputes, but at the same time they know that it needs a relationship with its powerful neighbor. It is not in India's interest to become a pawn. They act in their own self interest.

PsychLegalMind

What's strange is that this habitual liar might in fact be right, I remember Bloomberg announcing the India-China peace deal in December of 2024 (which wound down a 4 year military standoff) with a certain tone of dismay (that I found quite unnerving) one of the anchors even had to explicitly say that this was good news (which is not something you should even have to clarify in such a situation).

BodybuilderUpbeat786

all the countries on that region have been at eachothers necks for centuries lol

HeftyArgument

China is all over the internet, they know this is a lie

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0x950

Tbh, as a Chinese and read a lot in both west and Chinese medias. China is not really think India is a threat or enemy, our enemy is Japan for history reason, then US for real threat. Then would be the west like fucking British and countries like that invade us for no fucking reason. It’s India has been very hostile towards China, because we are helping his enemy a lot. We bearlly wouldn’t give them a fuck, they are way behind China in all aspects.

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Meanwhile, China, facing tensions elsewhere, wants calm on its Himalayan frontier but also seeks trade gains and fewer restrictions on its investments and workforce in India. Despite agreeing on de-escalation in Ladakh, Beijing continues asserting claims over Arunachal Pradesh, and Delhi remains firm on its sovereignty. Ethirajan notes that both sides seem intent on managing tensions to avoid escalation, while not relying entirely on global alliances for security.

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China doesn't like Pakistan, or you can say, China does not like anyone.

All the gestures and "kindness" is purely politics and business.

I think this one makes sense: [https://www.sohu.com/a/563840010\_121343044](https://www.sohu.com/a/563840010_121343044)

Basically the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

bdknight2000

why do China like North Korea? same reason, good dog is better than no dog

WaysOfG

The average Chinese person likes Pakistan simply because Pakistan is a friend to China. It’s that simple. No deeper than that.

The Chinese government likes Pakistan because it’s strategically valuable for its potential to help China avoid the long route by sea from the Middle East by eventually piping oil from the ports up through Pakistan to China.

Acrobatic-Pudding-87

Most Chinese just think that this conflict proves the strength of J10, which does not mean that they like Pakistanis. The day before the India-Pakistan conflict broke out, Pakistani students in Jiangxi, China, beat up a Chinese student. The attitude of most Chinese is that they hope to sell more weapons.😖

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Pakistan is objectively less aligned with Chinese values and policies than India. A religious nationalist state with known terrorist links is the opposite of what China stands for. India is secular and is definitely closer to CHina's idea of an atheist state. We're closer to a.democracy and our leaders have no intention of abetting Islamist radicals. Pakistani's literally have known Xinjiang terrorist sympathizers. 

By all means, China should objectively be more aligned with India than Pakistan. If China dropped its baseless claim over Arunachal Pradesh (a land where no one wants to be Chinese), China would have an easier time economically getting access to the Indian Ocean than setting up economic bases in Pakistan. CPEC is literally failing due to constant terrorist attacks by BLA who are being oppressed by Pakistan. 

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Pakistan did not come on the way of Chinese belt and road initiative. India came on the way. So India is the enemy, PK is the friend.

I'm a Chinese, i have to say most of us even don't know the differences between Pakistan and Palestine

jaco0079_

Using the word "hatred" is not quite appropriate. Besides some hatred towards Japan due to historical issues, it is more appropriate to describe the Chinese people's attitude with "inherent negative impressions" and "goodwill". They are no different from people of other countries.

One_Ad8779

Pakistan? It’s a tough nut to crack – deeply religious, a history tangled up with some pretty extreme elements. Let's be honest, it's not exactly the poster child for liberal democracy. Then you've got India, flashing its secular credentials (though there's a whiff of a more state-controlled vibe there too), trying to look like the obvious go-to partner. On the surface, sure, New Delhi seems like the smoother choice... but that's just scratching the surface, and it's way more complicated than that.


Here's the bottom line: when big powers pick dance partners, it's not about shared Spotify playlists or identical political systems. It's cold, hard strategy – a global chess game. Pakistan isn't just a spot on the map; it’s China’s main highway to the Indian Ocean. Yes, there are real headaches with CPEC security and getting stuff through, no doubt. But think about it – relying only on the Malacca Strait, even if pirate attacks dipped last year (21 is still 21!), is like betting your entire country's oil supply on one shaky old bridge. India? Yeah, they offer other routes, but after seventy years of border fights and not trusting each other as far as they can throw each other, leaning too heavily on them feels like handing your car keys to that one "friend" you know will race it.


And history? It leaves a long shadow. Back when China was out in the cold during the Cold War, Pakistan was their "all-weather friend." That wasn't just talk; it meant real military deals and help with their nuclear program. New Delhi, on the other hand, tends to go where the political winds blow, and right now, that's towards the West and alliances like the Quad. So, for Beijing, keeping Pakistan close isn't about being sentimental; it’s a strategic insurance policy, especially as India gets cozier with the U.S.


Now, this isn't China being a doormat. Beijing lays down the law: lock down those CPEC routes, and get rid of any militant groups causing trouble for Chinese projects. And Islamabad listens – sometimes with genuine anti-terror crackdowns, other times by just making enough concessions to keep things calm. It works because both sides need it to work. Pakistan desperately needs China's nearly $26 billion in CPEC cash, and China needs that Gwadar port to avoid being totally reliant on Malacca.


Think bigger picture: this is about dominating the board in Asia. Pakistan gives China a solid foothold in the Indian Ocean with naval bases and energy routes. Meanwhile, India's got its own border squabbles in places like Arunachal Pradesh (or Zangnan, as Beijing calls it), which keeps them pretty occupied. Is it cynical? You bet. But in a world where 90% of everything we buy travels by sea, pretty speeches about morals take a backseat to building ports and parking submarines.


So, here's a question for the policy experts: when the next big crisis blows up in the Indian Ocean, who do you want on your side? The somewhat unpredictable ally who's got a lot riding on the game, or the fair-weather friend who’s busy checking their other options?

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The data is correct but it's Simpsons paradox. All the parts are still manufactured in china, so even though the product goes from India, china still gets 90% of its manufacturing value.

MrHumanist

Now Many parts of Indian made iPhones came from china?

the_money_prophet

Fluffy-Ad5307

What are the iPhone sales in US compared to EU and China?  I bet those countries are getting Chinese iPhones.  

Evabluemishima

they are doing the classic make 99% of it all in china and then ship it to india for the made in not china stamp to avoid tariffs and follow geopolitical propaganda needs

heavanlymandate

Let them be happy with the milestone. It's an example of an all-win cooperation for global manufacturing and trade.

pr0newbie

1 million is still high with 20/30% tariffs

ConnectionDry4268

Finally, some job creation in India happening, even if it's just to assemble phones.

Brill__t

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mohitesachin217

But but what happened about the CCP rhetoric on Reddit saying the USA COulkd NEeVeR liVe WiThOuT cHeAp ChInA dOg PRoDuCts

DogSh1tDong

Isn't the India export only for US exports due to tariffs?

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Despite the shift, manufacturing in India is 5-8% more expensive than in China, according to Reuters, but Apple’s move—supported by partners like Foxconn and Tata Group—aims to mitigate risks from geopolitical disruptions and Washington’s trade policies.

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