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Once and if the Indian FAA releases a report where Boeing is blamed, all paid Boeing fanboys will be say things like,   
  
\* Indian officials are corrupt and government has pressured them.   
\* Racist comments like 'Brown people don't know how to investigate'  
\* WSJ and Aljazeera will run a news article, 'from an Internal source they have come to know that people were paid to forge the investigation'  
\* These paid Boeing fanboys will quote these articles as facts for eternity.

Putting it here for posterity.

rava-dosa

Extremely knowledgeable Avherald owner, Simon Hradecky says in his opinion, the dual engine failure occurred BEFORE the cutoff switches were activated, and the movement of the cutoff switches were a correct memory item response to a dual failure
https://avherald.com/h?article=52b0a800&amp;opt=0

James Wong, a VN 787 captain who flew in 7 countries including India, also insists he is sure this was not a deliberate act (he says he is “10 million percent sure” while I think that’s an exaggeration it shows that this is far from a certain case as many in r/flying imply, over there mods are deleting many posts, some from very educated people, that suggest differently from what they already “concluded” of this being a murder)

N205FR

Did boeing just end the smear campaign, I don't see people peddling pilot suicide theory. Where are all the boeing fanboys now ?

There is a certain observation I'm seeing being brought up on a few different channels. The rear EFDR has basically melted away as can be seen on the image in preliminary report. The report mentions that it has suffered 'thermal damages'. This EFDR is closer to the tail section which is actually pretty much intant as visible from the exterior in an image from the report. There was no data recoverable from this EFDR.


On the other hand, the forward EFDR was found in a burnt condition covered with soot. As can be seen in it's image from the prelim, it's pretty much physically intact with just burning visible on the surface with soot coverings. This is basically in the main section of the aircraft that was fully burnt out by the impact and it's explosion.


It's a very interesting anomaly and is being linked to a thermal runaway event that could have been in a lithium ion battery present closer to the aircraft's tail section. 

This news article even cites investigating officials saying something along the same lines: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/air-india-crash-probe-investigators-examining-signs-of-electric-tail-fire-before-fatal-air-india-crash-101752985918456.html


Another interesting observation is that CCTV footage of the plane takeoff shows something like  smoke or something which is not very clear but a definition disturbance is present. This occurs right after liftoff once the plane comes back into the CCTV view after the observation post in this video: https://youtu.be/iMT76ZQlmMM

revvedrays

News link[link](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/27/mother-of-british-victim-of-air-india-crash-left-heartbroken-by-casket-error)

Indian government incompetency as per usual. Nothing to see, move on.

abzti

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https://preview.redd.it/6ijawl2u7eff1.png?width=940&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=70fcf5990d585799124d56c79ffe054011bed253

This analysis by Jeff Ostroff seems accurate. What do you guys think?

Attempt_Brief

FAA sees no mechanical issue with 787 Boeing fuel control unit after Air India crash

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/india/faa-sees-no-mechanical-issue-787-boeing-fuel-control-unit-air-india-cr-rcna221079

hubmash

I wonder if this article that just came out is in anyway a result of this tragedy. 

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/dgca-warns-air-india-over-systemic-lapses-in-crew-fatigue-management-training-3646114

Major_Profit

Interesting video: https://youtu.be/jXIcLmr5OMo

Here a pilot is questioning the 4 second gap between the cutoff to run per fuel switch in case of 1 pilot murdering and the other recovering. Interesting question because the plane was already dying on them with loss of lift and the switch back to run should have been extremely quick.

It's so weird that all of the social media is a full 100% sure on the suicide-murder plot that they're using it so freely in conversations, assuming it as a given. On the r/aviation sub people are discussing how pilots built trust over their co-pilots over the years, and now it's all broken, we can never go back to normal—they're all like mourning and stuff. I mean do these people have access to the final report somehow or have they just accepted the verdict of a bunch of youtube pilots as the gospel? Lol even a random little Timmy sitting in his privy somewhere in northern Europe holds an opinion like how Asian drivers and pilots are so incompetent and how he'll never take an Asian airlines ever again in his life.

I mean it is funny, mostly bizarre, but the saddest part about it is the state of our pilots.  Imagine training your ass off in your youth, putting in line all of your financial muscle, taking such huge risks, every single flight, every single takeoff and landing, and one cursed day the Murphy's law comes for you, and in the aftermath, only after a few days from the incident, you are declared the antagonist by the WHOLE FUCKIN WORLD, without even giving you the decency of a FAIR FUCKING TRIAL. What kind of unrewarding job IS this? They are shrieking on the top of their voice about how WE need to do something about the "mental health of our pilots" — only to feel self-righteous and good about their own selves. Imagine why even an aspiring pilot would aspire for such an ungrateful profession, imagine the spike in  mental health issues of our pilots NOW after this bullshit campaign on the social media. I can only sympathize, not empathize... Maybe some of you can. I hope people propagating probable theories as THE TRUTH should consider this aspect. Even if your gut &amp; experience says your theory is correct, just think about giving our pilots a fair, unpolluted trial.

rucjos

I think if the switch sounds were heard and I think they would be most probably if they were moved by a human,  they should have mentioned that in the report. Lot of confusion stems from that.

Naive-Double-7589

I do wonder, if the captain had a Muslim name, would the same people seeking any alternative explanation of technical fault and cover-up instead be waving the same preliminary report as definitive proof of pilot murder-suicide.

nwdogr

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/ai-crash-probe-looks-for-vital-clues-of-electric-malfunction-in-tail-wreckage-10137487/#

Air India Ahmedabad plane crash: Probe looks for vital clues of electric malfunction in tail wreckage

Investigators probing the June 12 Air India AI-171 disaster are closely examining the Boeing Dreamliner wreckage which hold “vital clues” to what could have gone wrong in the 26 seconds the flight was airborne after lift-off from Runway 23 of the Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport in Ahmedabad.

Officials aware of the probe said the wreckage of the empennage or tail assembly of the aircraft showed signs of a “contained electric fire” but restricted to only a few components located in the rear. The tail had disengaged and remained largely unaffected by the post-crash explosion and fuel fire which had charred the rest of the aircraft body.

The officials said components located in the tail have been identified and safely stored at a location in Ahmedabad. “They hold the key for a detailed analysis of a possible malfunction in the electric supply of the aircraft during lift off,” an official told The Indian Express.

The aft Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorders (EAFR) or the rear black box found from the rooftop of the BJ Medical College hostel mess building on June 13 had suffered extensive internal thermal damage, the officials said.

The July 12 preliminary report of the Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau, an office under the Ministry of Civil Aviation, pointed to this and said data from this “could not be downloaded through conventional means”. When it was opened to inspect the memory card, the “damage was extensive”.

In contrast, the forward EAFR or the front black box, was found “burnt and covered in soot” from the charred wreckage debris on June 16, and the AAIB was able to retrieve data from this, the report said.

According to the officials, both the black boxes are housed inside robust, anti-corrosion material casing to withstand high temperatures or impact. While the rear black box relies on the aircraft’s main electrical system for power, the front black box has an independent battery to ensure it continues recording even in case of power shut down. Flight data downloaded from the front black box contained “approximately 49 hours of flight data and 6 flights, including the event flight”, the preliminary report said. The audio recovered from this, including the crash event, was two hours long.

The officials said the aircraft’s tail suffered the expected crash impact when it made contact with the hostel mess building. But this was not the rare kind of damage where the aft EAFR (rear black box) should have been damaged beyond salvage, they said.

“It needs to be probed if the electric fire in the tail was due to a fault that originated in one of the flight components when it began rolling for take-off, or was it purely a fire following the impact… The fire was contained in the tail section, which, despite being embedded in Building A (hostel mess), did not spread to the structure or its electrical framework,” the official said.

Besides the rear black box, the Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) located in the tail as well as the transducers and rudders of the plane are being examined, the officials said. The investigators have recovered the APU from its compartment in an “intact condition”, the preliminary report had said. It is critical to investigate the electrical fire, especially since the crew of the previous flight AI-423 from Delhi to Ahmedabad had logged a Pilot Defect Report for a status message “STAB POS XDCR” (Stabilizer Position Transducer – a sensor located in the tail) in the technical log. This was troubleshooted by the Aircraft Maintenance Engineer in Ahmedabad before clearing the flight for AI-171 at 12.15 pm on June 12.

“Any malfunction of the electrical system that originated before the flight became airborne could have led to disruption of interconnected flight sensors and, in a cascading effect, triggered incorrect data to the ECU (Engine Control Unit) of the flight to cut off fuel supply… The APU also made an auto logic start after fuel supply transitioned back to ‘Run’ from ‘Cut-off’, which indicates it had been on during the take-off to have more thrust during take-off on a hot day in Ahmedabad…,” the official said.

It is “pertinent” that the rear black box, along with the Stabilizer Position Transducer, is located in the tail, along with the APU. “When the aircraft is on the ground, APU batteries start the APU generators. The APU generator powers the two generators on each of the two engines to start the engines. Once in flight, APU’s two generators are secondary power for the flight or used for in-cabin power,” the official said.

Recalling that APU malfunctions had led to a brief grounding of the 787 series Dreamliner fleet in 2013, the officials said, the fleet was pressed back into service when the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) approved the new design of APU battery. “The component is among the significant parts being examined now. This aircraft was pressed into service the same year after the FAA approved the new design,” the official said.

The testimony of the lone survivor Viswashkumar Ramesh about “flickering cabin lights” also supports the possibility of electric malfunction, with systems switching between the main power, back-up generator, and attempted relight of systems within a few seconds, the officials said.

On July 17, The Indian Express had reported that the investigators were examining the history of technical snags and the possibility of system malfunction that can impact the FADEC’s (Full Authority Digital Engine Control) Engine Control Unit (the brain of the aircraft) to trigger “uncommanded” actions. “Both engines of the flight were starved of fuel within seconds of being airborne and quickly began to decelerate… The electrical signal of transition to fuel cut-off mode, recorded in the flight data, is at the centre of the probe, which is why FADEC actions are crucial. By design, FADEC reacts to cascading malfunction in data input by triggering fuel cut off to protect engines in compromised system conditions,” the official said.

souvik234

Air India completes fuel switches inspections on 737 and 787 airplanes, no issues found.

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/air-india-completes-fuel-control-switches-inspection-on-boeing-787-737-planes-says-no-issues-found-3641929

When PIA flight 8303 crashed in Karachi, I immediately said that 90% of air crashes happen due to pilot error. All the Pakistanis started jumping up and down that I was blaming the pilots who can't defend themselves. They leaned towards conspiracy theories like the Indians are doing today.

But guess what? It was indeed pilot error that caused the crash when the reports came out - and even prior to the reports all the preliminary data pointed to pilot errors.

This is no different. All the data released so far points to pilot error. Accept it. Move on.

Delicious-Row4821

\&gt; The aircraft involved in the crash was a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner registered VT-ANB with 41,868 hours on the airframe.  The aircraft was assembled at the **Boeing Everett Factory** and included fuselage sections made at the Boeing South Carolina facility.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air\_India\_Flight\_171](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_171)

From wikipedia

\---

The Air India was manufactured at Everett Factory. And About Everett Factory

A former Boeing quality-control manager alleges that for years workers at its 787 Dreamliner factory in Everett, Washington, **routinely took parts that were deemed unsuitable** to fly out of an internal scrap yard and put them back on factory assembly lines .

[https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/03/business/former-boeing-inspector-scrap-parts-assembly-lines](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/03/business/former-boeing-inspector-scrap-parts-assembly-lines)

This is not Indian media, this is USA media.

What will be Boeing Minions Say Now ?

It's truly unfortunate how prone people have become to screaming "conspiracy". 

To those of you who still believe this is some form of coverup, please thoroughly read the preliminary report again.

Now, after the re-read, I believe everyone can agree that the report is pointing towards at least one of the pilots transitioning both the fuel cutoff switches, correct?

I want you to ask yourself this: How much would Boeing/the NTSB/the FAA/whoever you accuse of being "actually responsible" have to pay to bribe the AAIB to turn on its own country, blame experienced pilots, and tarnishing Air India's reputation all in the same process?

Sure, Boeing isn't the most trustworthy company, but even with regards to the 737 MAX 8 situation, that aircraft first flew on 22 May 2017 with Malindo Air, and the first disaster with Lion Air 610 occurred on 29 October 2018. That was just about 1.5 years of operational history before the MCAS revealed its flaws. 

The 787-8, on the other hand, entered commercial service with ANA on 26 October 2011 and had no crashes until AI171 on 12 June 2025. That is roughly 13.5 years of service without any crash-worthy issues, which should be noted as a much longer duration in contrast. Sure, the 787 fleet had battery thermal runaway issues in 2013, but that resulted in the fleet being grounded and not being allowed to fly until it was deemed safe to do so, and even then those issues have no correlation established to AI171 as of writing.

As the preliminary report states, the 787-8 has no discovered issues at the moment, and specifically, VT-ANB, the 787-8 involved, was explicitly airworthy. The ambiguity of the preliminary report perhaps is not to withhold information for the sake of conspiracy, but to spare the affected families the absolute media trial that more specific information being released in the report would have resulted in. Not to mention, if malice, as suggested by the report, is actually the cause, that warrants a criminal investigation, in which case even lesser information will be shared with the public.

The investigators CERTAINLY have access to more information than they have disclosed. They have heard the Cockpit Voice Recorder themselves, and they know what went wrong with the flight far better than any of us do.

As for the WSJ and Corriere with their alleged leaked information, only time can tell. The WSJ foresaw the fuel cutoff switches revelation before the report did, and that's just adding to their credibility as much as it is commenting on the shameful leakage of investigative findings.

Nobody wants to believe that a pilot (specifically the pilot monitoring, if the evidence/leaks are to be believed) could have done such a horrendous thing, but unfortunately, the truth doesn't care how anyone feels.

And please, if you can not tell an Airbus A320 apart from a Boeing 787-8, do not engage in any speculation, and let the more experienced folks do the work. 

TL;DR - ACCEPT THE FACTS AND NOT YOUR SPECULATIVE FEELINGS. NO SANE INDIVIDUAL OF REASON WILL LET JUSTICE BE DENIED TO THE 260+ SOULS WHO PERISHED. AWAIT THE FINAL REPORT, AND STOP PEDDLING BASELESS CONSPIRACIES.

The truth alone shall triumph.

alphamike69

The problem is labelling all information that doesn't suit your narrative as Nonsense and labelling people who tell them as 'conspiracy thinkers' is very much typical of people who are paid to build a propaganda

The problem of giving the fact to these paid boeing minions is they have come in such swarm on this subreddit and they will always twist any facts keep writing long answers tire and exhaust you until you stop fighting.
Don't Engage in civil discussion with these write short sharp answer and push them out of this subreddit. Make fun of them, troll them and they will probably leave

Designating this as the Megathread for AI171 related topics.

Aviator779

https://preview.redd.it/vxel72k1sg6f1.jpeg?width=218&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=e2fb4ef531acaa9fe79c7706eb982d53bd6c2e36

timonyu

riizenhypenateez

https://preview.redd.it/ldnxwee00h6f1.png?width=1160&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=6c0bcfe4bb447fd66a9f1763bf526e9e33c97be3

new statement from air india

cuntyzebra

https://preview.redd.it/gjysfztodh6f1.jpeg?width=1077&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=a7598793b741f7eba860a0c6869f25af65a4cf14

abit_pitchy

https://preview.redd.it/d4kyvs6pbh6f1.jpeg?width=1080&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=13b81cf04ea8a04c825fb25b57b3270cab8e26bb

One of the Main landing gears

theflawlessmech

Wouldn’t this be the first hull loss of a 787-8?

Crazy_Pop_1746

Loss of thrust; no lift; losing power 

— Pilot's last May Day message to the ATC.

One known survivor of Air India plane crash today in Ahmedabad, Gujarat. 40-year-old Vishwash Kumar Ramesh at Civil Hospital, Asarwa in Ahmedabad. Prayers for his speedy recovery. 🙏
  
Police Commissioner .

Dead_Inside_ASF

“The aircraft gave mayday call” DGCA statement

PsychologicalBass594

Video here - is this legit?

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/video/video-captures-moment-air-india-ahmedabad-london-flight-crashed-after-take-off-2739732-2025-06-12

ParticularBat8489

***Air India Flight AI171 (Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, VT-ANB) crashed today***

**Route**: Ahmedabad to London Gatwick Crashed in Meghani Nagar, Ahmedabad (residential area)

**Takeoff time**: 1:38 PM IST Crash occurred \~5 minutes after takeoff

**Total onboard**: 242 Passengers: 230 Crew: 12 (10 cabin, 2 cockpit)

**Pilot experience**: Captain: 8000+ flight hours Co-pilot: 1100+ hours

**Passenger nationalities**: 169 Indian, 53 British, 7 Portuguese, 1 Canadian

**Emergency helpline: 1800 5691 444**

Air India has confirmed the incident. The airline is cooperating with authorities. Updates will be posted on: x.com/airindia and airindia.com

*Thoughts are with everyone affected.*

https://preview.redd.it/vxu7urb0sg6f1.jpeg?width=1280&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=cd1123bafcf41baf87ab6c76bcb6d4037d0c0f7b

Such terrible news to wake up to this morning. Truly hope there are some survivors.

Agent_Mango2

My thoughts go out to the survivors, indicated by the Air India post. From the video, I don’t see how they could escape life-changing injuries. I assumed it would have been an instant death, considering the immediate explosion.

lolyepitme

lots of comments regarding flaps.  Lots of warning sounds if they try to take off without flaps and also if you watch other 787 take off the flaps are not that noticable so i doubt this is the issue.

Fun-Builder6540

Is this the first crash hull loss of a 787?

SK5454

Gear5Tanjiro

https://preview.redd.it/ce984ct11h6f1.jpeg?width=1170&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=99fa3910807b1644df46c2d5680dc5a0ea8f4a6f

It was carrying of 169 Indian , atleast 53 British, 1 Canadian and 7 portugues People  . The plane crashed at a Hostel of a medical college there were student interns present in the building as of now 133 people are confirmed dead .

https://preview.redd.it/73ekvc4m1h6f1.jpeg?width=800&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=c3090e784b5e235dea2d836b26acc1e492111ed9

Oh well. Bruce Willis just walked out as if nothing happened

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/air-india-plane-crash-survivor-ahmedabad-jumped-off-2739889-2025-06-12

calvinspiff

Apparently there's a new CCTV video available:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FSqZDQ2NU/

g-guglielmi

Deepest condolences to the families. RIP little ones and RIP to all passengers and crew as well any ground victims :(

BKTKL

iusedtobeatwink

https://preview.redd.it/sn6virpo0h6f1.jpeg?width=1170&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=05d973ee13e5ababd4d7cc7b8852a36e1cc9d2dc

Must have been tricky to step a foot inside on this plane, right after that incident with the same aircraft and same airline..🥲

cheez29

Any news on the pilots? The co-pilot is my brother. Please post as soon as you know something about him.

rk2198hehe

https://preview.redd.it/86bteifx0j6f1.jpeg?width=1080&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=b868ad34770eb3062fc41d81b40ccc8482b52b76

AshlandPone

https://preview.redd.it/ner734f05h6f1.png?width=583&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=d0dec01ed66e620784114150949360a3e19cbbba

It's so reassuring knowing the King himself is getting updated.

AdFickle6349

Devastating news. I hope there are survivors 🤞

ThatOne_268

There is one survivor seated on 11A.
Do not think others survived this horrible crash.
Condolences to all the departed souls.

BookkeeperFar7754

Flightradar24 have published on their website that the flight used full length of rwy23 for takeoff roll. FR24 tracking data was initially incomplete. But they’ve subsequently confirmed a/c did use full length

JacobPeatBogg

My previous post was deleted but taking this screenshot, does it look like flaps were extended??

https://preview.redd.it/ed6civkx4h6f1.jpeg?width=686&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=3f489ed118ac9d67962973ea1cdba482a03d80b1

Upstairs_Factor_4424

Flight Radar feed makes it look like the pilot tried to start the takeoff roll from mid-way down the runway……could explain the low speed + lift.

Edit: quite a few comments stating the data seems to be inaccurate - hope this is true as it will prove my comment to be wrong.

Inverseyaself

# Air India Ahmedabad plane crash LIVE: Ex-Gujarat CM Rupani on board, confirms Naidu; 1 survivor reported in Ahmedabad

Ahmedabad police chief G.S. Malik told Reuters that 204 bodies had been recovered from the crash site. As of now, only one survivor has been reported - a 40-year-old Indian origin British national.

[https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/ahmedabad-plane-crash-live-updates-air-india-flight-crashes-ahmedabad-airport-death-toll-news-101749717953751.html](https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/ahmedabad-plane-crash-live-updates-air-india-flight-crashes-ahmedabad-airport-death-toll-news-101749717953751.html)

BOOKNANA

Hi all my family often take this flight back home. I’m really interested to know if this would have been the exact aircraft we took previously from Ahmedabad on the 20th of March to Gatwick. If anyone has a premium account and wouldn’t mind having a look for me. This is a complete tragedy. RIP Om Shanti 💔🙏🏼😢

pass_awsccp

Looking at the fireball that ensued when the plane crashed, how tf did anyone survive that? Astounding.

CanuckChick1313

73RnivaG

Reminds me of the footage of the Airbus doing a low pass - AF296Q - which clipped trees at the end of the runway. Pilot blamed fly by wire prevented him from throttling up.

kil0ran

after seeing the cctv video, something had to happen during the lift of, when they got positive rate of climb which caused to cutoff both engines at the same time. could be any unattached cargo caused fuel/hydro damage? that would explain RAT (if it is RAT) visible on pictures. 

takeoff seemed to be normal, they got lift, so the flaps are ruled out atm, i was thinking maybe suicide attempt but the mayday call wouldnt be called in that case. dont think it is fuel issue as many planes uses the same, but could not rule it out as it looks like engine issue at the first place.  birds? I dont think so - very unlikely scenario and also in that case there would be some kind of explosion visible on video as compresor would fail. 

damn, very very interesting indeed!

BarracudaRelevant191

According to simpleflying's video that just came out, it was seen that some were rushed to the hospital so there are some survivors

Update: The passenger seated on 11A survived as the sole survivor from the plane

JC1199154

As a former resident of the city. Super tragic of this to happen. The plane missed India's biggest hospital by 400 metres. Had it not stopped on time by striking the hostel, it would have been disastrous.

harryjarvis96

RAT deployed, gear down and high AOA into stall.  Major loss of power at critical phase of flight IMO.

Randomse7en

There is a video showing the plane's entire journey from take off to crash: [https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1l9no7u/new\_video\_of\_take\_off\_to\_the\_crash\_of\_air\_india/?utm\_source=share&amp;utm\_medium=web3x&amp;utm\_name=web3xcss&amp;utm\_term=1&amp;utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1l9no7u/new_video_of_take_off_to_the_crash_of_air_india/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=web3x&amp;utm_name=web3xcss&amp;utm_term=1&amp;utm_content=share_button)

gas_meter

241 dead from the plane. 1 survived. 75 dead from the building it fell on. Many others injured and may not make it.

Bubbly-Fly-9867

New video

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16SHhXNhrK/

Astronomia_17

There's a survivor! [https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1l9omlm/british\_passenger\_in\_seat\_11a\_survives\_plane/](https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/1l9omlm/british_passenger_in_seat_11a_survives_plane/)

Stormflier

What are the chances of at least one singular survivor in a crash like this?

Available-Variety201

PhoenixSpeed97

Seemed like the landing gear was still out and barely no flaps visible &gt; low lift, low speed.
EDIT: not an expert, just thoughts.

PleasantSir9581

This is devastating news. Extremely tragic. RIP all the perished ones, it’s a difficulty journey for the families left behind.

fk067

https://x.com/BNODesk/status/1933131964443168786

New-Link2873

NBC is reporting one survivor.

[https://www.nbcnews.com/world/india/live-blog/plane-crashes-major-indian-airport-200-people-board-rcna212548#rcrd81746](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/india/live-blog/plane-crashes-major-indian-airport-200-people-board-rcna212548#rcrd81746)

DudeFromVA

New update, it seems like there is no survivors from the plane, and dozens of injured on ground.

HamanthaFanatic

One survivor confirmed....insanely lucky guy....

CucumberImportant675

Although I don't like to speculate in such cases and would rather allow appropriate authorities to conduct full thorough investigation.

In this case - it looks like perhaps bird strike on departure causing dual engine flameout. The aircraft reached altitude of around 600ft (according to various reports) - Not enough time to recover if there was a dual engine failure. By looking at some last min footage around it also appears that slats/flaps where not deployed - this is very least likely as in a 787 there is a system which would alert the pilots if they were trying to take-off without flaps.

Following this very closely - awaiting response from official authorities as this is a first total hull loss of B787.

Perfect_Maize9320

One guy miraculously survived the crash according to latest reports.
https://x.com/IndiaToday/status/1933160181871099943?t=2sGrLeD-RkCMiCrG0FoabA&amp;s=19

jawanilaunda

No, or insufficient flaps set at first glance. FR24 shows it took off straight from the taxiway half way down the runway. Previous days that flight has flown they have gone further down the runway before turning around. (Yes I know FR24 isn’t super accurate)

BEKAcoin

Responsible_Carob672

One of the most horrific crashes in the past decade has had effects on pilot mental health? Who would've thought

Tedfromwalmart

Bet it makes you look at the pilot in the seat next to you a little differently every time you power up the engines given what we now know. 

According-Ad-5908

Don’t blame them. Same thing happens in other industries when something horrid happened and the people doing that job realise they’re doing the same thing that just ended horrifically.

Intergalatic_Baker

Zoegrace1

Single pilot they say. Never going to happen. German wings &amp; Air India should solidify the argument against it.

ThatOneGuyYearn

This will happen after an accident that affects you on a personal level, it’s to be expected. 

I say that as someone who was personally affected by one of the recent crashes. If your head isn’t in the right space, the smart thing to do is stay away from work until you’re ready again.

bobby_ice69

FlyingOctopus53

Entirely missing context.

How many pilots called in sick the day *before* the crash? How many the week before?

This is terrible journalism and this sub is just eating it up.

quietflyr

VitFlaccide

This is quite a misleading title. Quick google search indicates 3.2% of workers call out sick each day. Air India has over 3,000 pilots. So you would expect around 110 to call out sick each day.

katrinakt8

I wonder who many of those were already out on sick before the crash?

AnOtherGuy1234567

Should have them all take a psychological exam

fordfocus2024

Because they think it’s the airplane and don’t want fly the 777 series

Remarkable-Mango5794

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cncplyr

Reading more it seems like Air India is trash. If it went bankrupt, it wouldn't be a loss.

schowdur123

Families of victims from the crash of Air India Flight AI-171 are pursuing legal action against Boeing and Air India, questioning potential technical faults.

Air India Flight AI-171 Crash Investigation

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