The public sentiment regarding the Air India AI 171 plane crash is dominated by grief, frustration, and anger towards perceived negligence from Air India and Boeing. Commenters emphasize the need for thorough investigations, accountability for mechanical and maintenance failures, and systemic reforms in aviation safety. Many express support for the pilots, arguing that they are being unjustly blamed amidst broader failures in safety protocols and regulatory oversight.

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They put out the preliminary report early last month. That's the last you will hear about this from anyone official for a while, the final report can sometimes take years to finish.

PleaseHelpThePit

Final reports can take months to a year+ given the work put into them. They are not instagram.

briyyz

How often are you expecting updates to be released? They basically just released the preliminary report. They're not going to be doing daily or even weekly updates after that. We probably have all the info we're going to get until the final report, which I doubt is going to tell us a huge amount that the preliminary report didn't already.

spacecadet2399

Yeah then most media will move onto the next more general topics to keep their views going of course

FlyingTiger777

it’s gonna take a long time for a final. I just hope it’s not a suicide. Mental health is already too hot button an item with the FAA .

JPAV8R

If there were significant findings after the preliminary report that affected safety, you’d have seen updates. You can almost bank on no other updates until the final report.

Designer_Buy_1650

Because Air India, just like all of India, is filled with corruption. Air India most likely knows a lot more info than it’s telling us. They’re hoping it “disappears” from the headlines. They’ll try a cover-up.

A report that did just come out is that Air India has over 51 violations. So, don’t fly with them!  

PositionDue7117

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Red tape, the final report wont even be published to the public, or heavily redacted.

Esuna1031

Saw this last night.  I posted my similar hypothesis a couple weeks ago here and it was removed because the mods didn't like hearing about any theory other than pilot suicide.  So watch this before this post gets deleted too I guess:  
Short article: [https://42kft.com/root-cause-of-the-loss-of-air-india-171](https://42kft.com/root-cause-of-the-loss-of-air-india-171)

The proof: [https://youtu.be/t\_t8nX7lb0U?si=VLdvUJf9LASCO7Xq](https://youtu.be/t_t8nX7lb0U?si=VLdvUJf9LASCO7Xq)

ChitmaPance


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Air India Ahmedabad plane crash: 65 families who lost kin hire U.S.-based law firm Beasley Allen - The Hindu https://share.google/GF5EGjKjhJFW57QCN

Naive-Double-7589

Once and if the Indian FAA releases a report where Boeing is blamed, all paid Boeing fanboys will be say things like,   
  
\* Indian officials are corrupt and government has pressured them.   
\* Racist comments like 'Brown people don't know how to investigate'  
\* WSJ and Aljazeera will run a news article, 'from an Internal source they have come to know that people were paid to forge the investigation'  
\* These paid Boeing fanboys will quote these articles as facts for eternity.

Putting it here for posterity.

rava-dosa

Extremely knowledgeable Avherald owner, Simon Hradecky says in his opinion, the dual engine failure occurred BEFORE the cutoff switches were activated, and the movement of the cutoff switches were a correct memory item response to a dual failure
https://avherald.com/h?article=52b0a800&amp;opt=0

James Wong, a VN 787 captain who flew in 7 countries including India, also insists he is sure this was not a deliberate act (he says he is “10 million percent sure” while I think that’s an exaggeration it shows that this is far from a certain case as many in r/flying imply, over there mods are deleting many posts, some from very educated people, that suggest differently from what they already “concluded” of this being a murder)

N205FR

Did boeing just end the smear campaign, I don't see people peddling pilot suicide theory. Where are all the boeing fanboys now ?

There is a certain observation I'm seeing being brought up on a few different channels. The rear EFDR has basically melted away as can be seen on the image in preliminary report. The report mentions that it has suffered 'thermal damages'. This EFDR is closer to the tail section which is actually pretty much intant as visible from the exterior in an image from the report. There was no data recoverable from this EFDR.


On the other hand, the forward EFDR was found in a burnt condition covered with soot. As can be seen in it's image from the prelim, it's pretty much physically intact with just burning visible on the surface with soot coverings. This is basically in the main section of the aircraft that was fully burnt out by the impact and it's explosion.


It's a very interesting anomaly and is being linked to a thermal runaway event that could have been in a lithium ion battery present closer to the aircraft's tail section. 

This news article even cites investigating officials saying something along the same lines: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/air-india-crash-probe-investigators-examining-signs-of-electric-tail-fire-before-fatal-air-india-crash-101752985918456.html


Another interesting observation is that CCTV footage of the plane takeoff shows something like  smoke or something which is not very clear but a definition disturbance is present. This occurs right after liftoff once the plane comes back into the CCTV view after the observation post in this video: https://youtu.be/iMT76ZQlmMM

revvedrays

News link[link](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/27/mother-of-british-victim-of-air-india-crash-left-heartbroken-by-casket-error)

Indian government incompetency as per usual. Nothing to see, move on.

abzti

https://preview.redd.it/6ijawl2u7eff1.png?width=940&amp;format=png&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=70fcf5990d585799124d56c79ffe054011bed253

This analysis by Jeff Ostroff seems accurate. What do you guys think?

Attempt_Brief

FAA sees no mechanical issue with 787 Boeing fuel control unit after Air India crash

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/india/faa-sees-no-mechanical-issue-787-boeing-fuel-control-unit-air-india-cr-rcna221079

hubmash

I wonder if this article that just came out is in anyway a result of this tragedy. 

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/dgca-warns-air-india-over-systemic-lapses-in-crew-fatigue-management-training-3646114

Major_Profit

Interesting video: https://youtu.be/jXIcLmr5OMo

Here a pilot is questioning the 4 second gap between the cutoff to run per fuel switch in case of 1 pilot murdering and the other recovering. Interesting question because the plane was already dying on them with loss of lift and the switch back to run should have been extremely quick.

It's so weird that all of the social media is a full 100% sure on the suicide-murder plot that they're using it so freely in conversations, assuming it as a given. On the r/aviation sub people are discussing how pilots built trust over their co-pilots over the years, and now it's all broken, we can never go back to normal—they're all like mourning and stuff. I mean do these people have access to the final report somehow or have they just accepted the verdict of a bunch of youtube pilots as the gospel? Lol even a random little Timmy sitting in his privy somewhere in northern Europe holds an opinion like how Asian drivers and pilots are so incompetent and how he'll never take an Asian airlines ever again in his life.

I mean it is funny, mostly bizarre, but the saddest part about it is the state of our pilots.  Imagine training your ass off in your youth, putting in line all of your financial muscle, taking such huge risks, every single flight, every single takeoff and landing, and one cursed day the Murphy's law comes for you, and in the aftermath, only after a few days from the incident, you are declared the antagonist by the WHOLE FUCKIN WORLD, without even giving you the decency of a FAIR FUCKING TRIAL. What kind of unrewarding job IS this? They are shrieking on the top of their voice about how WE need to do something about the "mental health of our pilots" — only to feel self-righteous and good about their own selves. Imagine why even an aspiring pilot would aspire for such an ungrateful profession, imagine the spike in  mental health issues of our pilots NOW after this bullshit campaign on the social media. I can only sympathize, not empathize... Maybe some of you can. I hope people propagating probable theories as THE TRUTH should consider this aspect. Even if your gut &amp; experience says your theory is correct, just think about giving our pilots a fair, unpolluted trial.

rucjos

I think if the switch sounds were heard and I think they would be most probably if they were moved by a human,  they should have mentioned that in the report. Lot of confusion stems from that.

I do wonder, if the captain had a Muslim name, would the same people seeking any alternative explanation of technical fault and cover-up instead be waving the same preliminary report as definitive proof of pilot murder-suicide.

nwdogr

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/ahmedabad/ai-crash-probe-looks-for-vital-clues-of-electric-malfunction-in-tail-wreckage-10137487/#

Air India Ahmedabad plane crash: Probe looks for vital clues of electric malfunction in tail wreckage

Investigators probing the June 12 Air India AI-171 disaster are closely examining the Boeing Dreamliner wreckage which hold “vital clues” to what could have gone wrong in the 26 seconds the flight was airborne after lift-off from Runway 23 of the Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport in Ahmedabad.

Officials aware of the probe said the wreckage of the empennage or tail assembly of the aircraft showed signs of a “contained electric fire” but restricted to only a few components located in the rear. The tail had disengaged and remained largely unaffected by the post-crash explosion and fuel fire which had charred the rest of the aircraft body.

The officials said components located in the tail have been identified and safely stored at a location in Ahmedabad. “They hold the key for a detailed analysis of a possible malfunction in the electric supply of the aircraft during lift off,” an official told The Indian Express.

The aft Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorders (EAFR) or the rear black box found from the rooftop of the BJ Medical College hostel mess building on June 13 had suffered extensive internal thermal damage, the officials said.

The July 12 preliminary report of the Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau, an office under the Ministry of Civil Aviation, pointed to this and said data from this “could not be downloaded through conventional means”. When it was opened to inspect the memory card, the “damage was extensive”.

In contrast, the forward EAFR or the front black box, was found “burnt and covered in soot” from the charred wreckage debris on June 16, and the AAIB was able to retrieve data from this, the report said.

According to the officials, both the black boxes are housed inside robust, anti-corrosion material casing to withstand high temperatures or impact. While the rear black box relies on the aircraft’s main electrical system for power, the front black box has an independent battery to ensure it continues recording even in case of power shut down. Flight data downloaded from the front black box contained “approximately 49 hours of flight data and 6 flights, including the event flight”, the preliminary report said. The audio recovered from this, including the crash event, was two hours long.

The officials said the aircraft’s tail suffered the expected crash impact when it made contact with the hostel mess building. But this was not the rare kind of damage where the aft EAFR (rear black box) should have been damaged beyond salvage, they said.

“It needs to be probed if the electric fire in the tail was due to a fault that originated in one of the flight components when it began rolling for take-off, or was it purely a fire following the impact… The fire was contained in the tail section, which, despite being embedded in Building A (hostel mess), did not spread to the structure or its electrical framework,” the official said.

Besides the rear black box, the Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) located in the tail as well as the transducers and rudders of the plane are being examined, the officials said. The investigators have recovered the APU from its compartment in an “intact condition”, the preliminary report had said. It is critical to investigate the electrical fire, especially since the crew of the previous flight AI-423 from Delhi to Ahmedabad had logged a Pilot Defect Report for a status message “STAB POS XDCR” (Stabilizer Position Transducer – a sensor located in the tail) in the technical log. This was troubleshooted by the Aircraft Maintenance Engineer in Ahmedabad before clearing the flight for AI-171 at 12.15 pm on June 12.

“Any malfunction of the electrical system that originated before the flight became airborne could have led to disruption of interconnected flight sensors and, in a cascading effect, triggered incorrect data to the ECU (Engine Control Unit) of the flight to cut off fuel supply… The APU also made an auto logic start after fuel supply transitioned back to ‘Run’ from ‘Cut-off’, which indicates it had been on during the take-off to have more thrust during take-off on a hot day in Ahmedabad…,” the official said.

It is “pertinent” that the rear black box, along with the Stabilizer Position Transducer, is located in the tail, along with the APU. “When the aircraft is on the ground, APU batteries start the APU generators. The APU generator powers the two generators on each of the two engines to start the engines. Once in flight, APU’s two generators are secondary power for the flight or used for in-cabin power,” the official said.

Recalling that APU malfunctions had led to a brief grounding of the 787 series Dreamliner fleet in 2013, the officials said, the fleet was pressed back into service when the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) approved the new design of APU battery. “The component is among the significant parts being examined now. This aircraft was pressed into service the same year after the FAA approved the new design,” the official said.

The testimony of the lone survivor Viswashkumar Ramesh about “flickering cabin lights” also supports the possibility of electric malfunction, with systems switching between the main power, back-up generator, and attempted relight of systems within a few seconds, the officials said.

On July 17, The Indian Express had reported that the investigators were examining the history of technical snags and the possibility of system malfunction that can impact the FADEC’s (Full Authority Digital Engine Control) Engine Control Unit (the brain of the aircraft) to trigger “uncommanded” actions. “Both engines of the flight were starved of fuel within seconds of being airborne and quickly began to decelerate… The electrical signal of transition to fuel cut-off mode, recorded in the flight data, is at the centre of the probe, which is why FADEC actions are crucial. By design, FADEC reacts to cascading malfunction in data input by triggering fuel cut off to protect engines in compromised system conditions,” the official said.

souvik234

Air India completes fuel switches inspections on 737 and 787 airplanes, no issues found.

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/air-india-completes-fuel-control-switches-inspection-on-boeing-787-737-planes-says-no-issues-found-3641929

When PIA flight 8303 crashed in Karachi, I immediately said that 90% of air crashes happen due to pilot error. All the Pakistanis started jumping up and down that I was blaming the pilots who can't defend themselves. They leaned towards conspiracy theories like the Indians are doing today.

But guess what? It was indeed pilot error that caused the crash when the reports came out - and even prior to the reports all the preliminary data pointed to pilot errors.

This is no different. All the data released so far points to pilot error. Accept it. Move on.

Delicious-Row4821

\&gt; The aircraft involved in the crash was a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner registered VT-ANB with 41,868 hours on the airframe.  The aircraft was assembled at the **Boeing Everett Factory** and included fuselage sections made at the Boeing South Carolina facility.

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air\_India\_Flight\_171](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_171)

From wikipedia

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The Air India was manufactured at Everett Factory. And About Everett Factory

A former Boeing quality-control manager alleges that for years workers at its 787 Dreamliner factory in Everett, Washington, **routinely took parts that were deemed unsuitable** to fly out of an internal scrap yard and put them back on factory assembly lines .

[https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/03/business/former-boeing-inspector-scrap-parts-assembly-lines](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/03/business/former-boeing-inspector-scrap-parts-assembly-lines)

This is not Indian media, this is USA media.

What will be Boeing Minions Say Now ?

It's truly unfortunate how prone people have become to screaming "conspiracy". 

To those of you who still believe this is some form of coverup, please thoroughly read the preliminary report again.

Now, after the re-read, I believe everyone can agree that the report is pointing towards at least one of the pilots transitioning both the fuel cutoff switches, correct?

I want you to ask yourself this: How much would Boeing/the NTSB/the FAA/whoever you accuse of being "actually responsible" have to pay to bribe the AAIB to turn on its own country, blame experienced pilots, and tarnishing Air India's reputation all in the same process?

Sure, Boeing isn't the most trustworthy company, but even with regards to the 737 MAX 8 situation, that aircraft first flew on 22 May 2017 with Malindo Air, and the first disaster with Lion Air 610 occurred on 29 October 2018. That was just about 1.5 years of operational history before the MCAS revealed its flaws. 

The 787-8, on the other hand, entered commercial service with ANA on 26 October 2011 and had no crashes until AI171 on 12 June 2025. That is roughly 13.5 years of service without any crash-worthy issues, which should be noted as a much longer duration in contrast. Sure, the 787 fleet had battery thermal runaway issues in 2013, but that resulted in the fleet being grounded and not being allowed to fly until it was deemed safe to do so, and even then those issues have no correlation established to AI171 as of writing.

As the preliminary report states, the 787-8 has no discovered issues at the moment, and specifically, VT-ANB, the 787-8 involved, was explicitly airworthy. The ambiguity of the preliminary report perhaps is not to withhold information for the sake of conspiracy, but to spare the affected families the absolute media trial that more specific information being released in the report would have resulted in. Not to mention, if malice, as suggested by the report, is actually the cause, that warrants a criminal investigation, in which case even lesser information will be shared with the public.

The investigators CERTAINLY have access to more information than they have disclosed. They have heard the Cockpit Voice Recorder themselves, and they know what went wrong with the flight far better than any of us do.

As for the WSJ and Corriere with their alleged leaked information, only time can tell. The WSJ foresaw the fuel cutoff switches revelation before the report did, and that's just adding to their credibility as much as it is commenting on the shameful leakage of investigative findings.

Nobody wants to believe that a pilot (specifically the pilot monitoring, if the evidence/leaks are to be believed) could have done such a horrendous thing, but unfortunately, the truth doesn't care how anyone feels.

And please, if you can not tell an Airbus A320 apart from a Boeing 787-8, do not engage in any speculation, and let the more experienced folks do the work. 

TL;DR - ACCEPT THE FACTS AND NOT YOUR SPECULATIVE FEELINGS. NO SANE INDIVIDUAL OF REASON WILL LET JUSTICE BE DENIED TO THE 260+ SOULS WHO PERISHED. AWAIT THE FINAL REPORT, AND STOP PEDDLING BASELESS CONSPIRACIES.

The truth alone shall triumph.

alphamike69

The problem is labelling all information that doesn't suit your narrative as Nonsense and labelling people who tell them as 'conspiracy thinkers' is very much typical of people who are paid to build a propaganda

The problem of giving the fact to these paid boeing minions is they have come in such swarm on this subreddit and they will always twist any facts keep writing long answers tire and exhaust you until you stop fighting.
Don't Engage in civil discussion with these write short sharp answer and push them out of this subreddit. Make fun of them, troll them and they will probably leave

One of the most horrific crashes in the past decade has had effects on pilot mental health? Who would've thought

Tedfromwalmart

Bet it makes you look at the pilot in the seat next to you a little differently every time you power up the engines given what we now know. 

According-Ad-5908

Don’t blame them. Same thing happens in other industries when something horrid happened and the people doing that job realise they’re doing the same thing that just ended horrifically.

Intergalatic_Baker

Zoegrace1

Single pilot they say. Never going to happen. German wings &amp; Air India should solidify the argument against it.

ThatOneGuyYearn

This will happen after an accident that affects you on a personal level, it’s to be expected. 

I say that as someone who was personally affected by one of the recent crashes. If your head isn’t in the right space, the smart thing to do is stay away from work until you’re ready again.

bobby_ice69

FlyingOctopus53

Entirely missing context.

How many pilots called in sick the day *before* the crash? How many the week before?

This is terrible journalism and this sub is just eating it up.

quietflyr

VitFlaccide

This is quite a misleading title. Quick google search indicates 3.2% of workers call out sick each day. Air India has over 3,000 pilots. So you would expect around 110 to call out sick each day.

katrinakt8

I wonder who many of those were already out on sick before the crash?

AnOtherGuy1234567

Should have them all take a psychological exam

fordfocus2024

Because they think it’s the airplane and don’t want fly the 777 series

Remarkable-Mango5794

Sufficient-Abroad-39

cncplyr

Reading more it seems like Air India is trash. If it went bankrupt, it wouldn't be a loss.

schowdur123

I love the downvotes. Chefs kiss to you all.

Jesus that's terrifying. It gets barely any momentum at all. Really unnerving the way it just floats back down.

sol_1990

So it looks like it lost power and just didn't have the altitude to do anything at all.

TheManWithTheKrag

PixelCortex

I’m holding judgment until the YouTube crash investigation team comes up with the facts

Basic-Week-9262

Pretty sure flaps are there - it starts climbing fine, but then looks like engines just lose thrust mid flight?

WorkingCalendar2452

Am I correct in thinking there should be enough thrust from 1 engine to reach safe altitude in the event of an engine loss after takeoff?  What are the odds of a dual-engine failure?

SortOfGettingBy

Absolutely insane. Just shouldn't happen at all with so much redundancy.

daveirl

Can you imagine being air traffic control and watching this happen? I feel terrible for all involved.

Bowling4rhinos

[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1055l0B9dm0](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1055l0B9dm0) what it should look like to take off. Engine loses thrust couple seconds in. Maybe the first climb is also too slow already? difficult to say...

25tidder

I wonder if it’s a full power failure, and what is that dust smoke as it begins to clime? RIP to those lost.

The_Ghost_of_WWE

I dont hear anyone talking about a loud noise. The lone survivor reported that 30 seconds after take off there was a loud noise and then the crash happened

SignificantSound7904

fukredditadmin5

787 lost both engines simultaneously? Someone fucked up.

SingleDigitVoter

Is the dust cloud just engine thrust or was there a tail strike?

ashypants82

Take offs are the thing I’m most afraid of being when I’m flying, I always think that the plane it’s gonna lose power and fall, this just reinforced my biggest fear. Yikes.

garlic-_-bread69

God, poor bastards barely got off the ground. At least it was probably super quick.

TheCarloHarlo

I guess I"ll wait for the Air Crash Investigations episode to come out

DistractedByCookies

As an airline captain one issue I haven’t seen discussed at all is the landing gear. Nobody is mentioning something so glaringly obvious. Airlines typically retract them within seconds of becoming airborne (positive rate). Especially if you need climb performance.  Gear remained down throughout the entire sequence. 

As a seasoned aviatior I know better than to speculate until authorities have a preliminary report. But the gear tells a huge part of what might’ve occurred. 

jagerma

Those poor people.  And even more sympathy for their surviving family... God dayum...

short_bus_genius

Kind of looks like the flaps aren’t down

My literal night mate, and have thought about that way to many time when watching other planes take off. “What if it doesn’t fly”. Fu•k!

Edit: I’m leaving it, you all know it’s suppose to be; nightmare

FunctionalBoredom

SoupieLC

That 100% looks like a flaps up takeoff 😳

shoksurf

Shidima

This feels like the slowest take off I’ve ever seen. Amazed it got off the ground

ivorybloodsh3d

Hey! I'm an ex air india crew and this was a frequent aircraft that I'd fly. This aircraft has had issues for YEARS. Literally years. The crew, pilots, engineers, literally everyone has always mentioned about it in the log book. But the company didn't have a spare Dreamliner for their most precious Gatwick sector. Which is why we were always, made to fly this aircraft. I've myself had an engine failure on this aircraft. Thankfully we landed back safely. It was a similar case where we took off and immediately landed back without being in air for even 30 mins.
Here, no staff but solely the company is at fault. But the company won't let any staff talk about it on a public channel. They'd rather blame the staff and not take accountability.—- I found this on Instagram

Wonder if the flight computer was programed with the wrong take off data such as the amount of fuel or weight on board and the aircraft responded with lower take off speed or flaps position?

colin8651

Looks like they didn't have flaps deployed. Yikes.

NoRagrets4Me

At what stage do you typically see landing gear starting to retract? I notice that they never move here, but that could be due to the relative short length of the entire sequence.

JPMoney81

Overran the runway, struck runway lighting, lost both engines, and then struggled to maintain altitude?

That cloud of dust after rotation makes me think it was not on a commonly used part of the field...

ArgonWilde

I can't believe someone survived that. Incredible.

soulure

crasher925

That is loss of thrust or loss of lift or loss of a control surface.  I'd bet engine failure, full loss of flaps, or maybe an elevator surface failure.  That is such a gentle loss of controlled elevation while keeping the the thing flat.  It is such a symmetric loss of altitude.

I'm going to bet on tail elevator failure.  I'll put it at 5:1 odds.

skovalen

It looks like for whatever reason they didn't develop enough power and didn't abort the takeoff quick enough. They used every inch of the runway which shows up as the dust cloud at the end and never developed enough speed. 

Probably a combination of flight configuration,  mechanical malfunction and pilot error.

EDIT: Also, looking at the runway, it doesn't have taxiways to the end, so they had to back-taxi to a turnaround point. I'm interested to see if they went to the one at the end of the runway or the one 2,500 ft. further down.

bk553

Looks like they got behind the power curve towards the end there, especially when they raised the nose.

DPC128

Shamrock5

It seems to wobble quite a bit when the pilot starts rotating?

NoFewSatan

kingNero1570

Some are saying that the copilot pulled the wrong lever. Instead of the gear up he retracted the slats . Or something like the Gatwick incident.

fu2nexus6

That video is way too clear. OP needs to play it back on another screen, record that, play that recording on another screen, record that screen, play THAT back on ANOTHER screen and record THAT screen, THEN upload it.

bdfortin

The pilots had time for a mayday call which leads me to believe they were not airborne and past takeoff abort.

Mistake-Choice

Are people just really thick? 

The plane enters a normal climb and suddenly stops climbing. It entirely points to an engine failure. You can literally see in the video the planes nose up attitude doesn’t change, he’s making a normal accelerated climb and suddenly that changes.

Tainted-Archer

I’m flying later today and I feel sick…

KosstAmojan

that one lone survivor is going to have immense survivor's guilt i hope he turns out to be ok

oktwentyfive

i got to know this news in 4 minutes as i was visiting a friend who has once worked for the airlines and he received this news within 4 minutes. we were devastated..

unitcodes

Solid-Diamond9759

HTF did that one dude survive that crash???  

Ok_Intention_688

those are very low hours for pilot and co-pilot! I believe this to be the standard for foreign carriers though.  The co-pilot could have simply lowered flaps instead of raising gear. Crazy to think such a modern plane could be taken down by such a simple human error. I would think there would be computer safety measures that would stop that from happening.  But the RAT deploying kind of blows up all theories besides the astronomical odds of both engines going out!  Bad fuel?

Bavic1974

The sources say that he jumped out of the crashed and grounded plane yes. Please stop that sensational “he jumped out the plane” bs.

SteelyLan

OP - one US expert identified what appears to be deployment of the RAT engine, which deploys in 3 catestrophic scenarios (dual engine failure, loss of hydrolics / controls  etc). This has shifted his opinon / working theory  to dual engine failure.

[https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/us-aviation-expert-links-air-india-crash-to-double-engine-failure-2741484-2025-06-16](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/us-aviation-expert-links-air-india-crash-to-double-engine-failure-2741484-2025-06-16)

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The tragic crash of Air India flight AI 171 on June 12 resulted in significant fatalities, with families seeking legal representation to uncover causes and hold parties accountable.

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