Public opinion is deeply polarized regarding US-Pakistan relations, with a mix of skepticism, frustration, and a hint of optimism. Many express distrust in the US, fearing that the accession of oil deals primarily serves US interests rather than Pakistan's economic benefit. Pakistanis show some hope for economic gains, while Indians express concern about loss of sovereignty and alliance dynamics between the US and Pakistan.

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If I had to guess, leverage to get India to stop buying Russian oil

IndependentThink4698

I’d suggest looking at reportage since February 2022 from The Intercept and then DropSite News about Pakistan. Though denied, it is clear that the U.S. at the very least indirectly told Pakistan’s military that overthrowing Imran Khan would lead to better ties. They were quite displeased that Khan went to Russia soon after the invasion of Ukraine and publicly declared neutrality.

IMF shenanigans were provided for Pakistan in exchange for munitions to be sent to Ukraine; munitions that the West does not have the capacity to produce.

Edit: adjusted the last sentence for grammar.

not_GBPirate

The first reason to come to mind is to pressure India with the "stick" over its Russia ties.

But the relations have also improved in their own right notably since the Israel-Iran War. It seems likely that Pakistan helped the US who then helped Israel with intelligence on Iran during the war.

There is also the tertiary motivation to step up engagement so Pakistan doesn't become a Laos-type vassal to China. Pakistan is greatly populated &amp; militarized, giving China access to the Indian Ocean so this is important for the US to compete/counter.

That last reason though only matters because the US feels India does not do enough to counter China particularly in the Pacific (India is against the militarization of the Quad).

Still_There3603

As a Chinese, I think the answer is simple: because Pakistan proved its worth in the air war with India and raised its international status.


If the U.S. continues to do nothing to Pakistan, Pakistan will completely fall back to China (in fact, Pakistan is already deeply cooperating with China politically, economically, and militarily), and the U.S. has nothing to squeeze Pakistan with, so adopting a soft policy is the only option.


The US realizes that India is not strong enough to clamp down on China - they are even at a disadvantage in a military confrontation with Pakistan, so how can they expect India to pressure China?

bjran8888

Daily reminder that the US has supported Pakistan for longer than Israel, still gives them tech and money despite them housing Daniel Pearl’s murder and (of all people) Osama Bin Laden, and even supported them with a nuclear threat WHILE Pakistan was issuing genocidal fatwas to rape and kill non-Muslims in now Bangladesh to the tune of numbers that are only dwarfed by the actual Holocaust in 1971.

IOW, if this is “rapprochement”, then I don’t know what “total and utter ally” is.  I’m only half kidding when I say that Pakistan could potentially nuke Delhi and subsequently issue a fatwa to rape all non Muslim women in Mumbai, and somehow the Americans (and Chinese) would find some way to look past it with hardly a peep from Europe.  Maybe a few “smh” online though.

resuwreckoning

American Deep state always been closer to Pakistan going back 1950s. 

Stupid corporate Dem love Bharat.

PossibleGazelle519

Improving relations with India without fully alienating Pakistan has always been how the USA has done things. 

An alienated Pakistan moves closer to China, while an alienated India moves closer to Russia. 

However, considering how weak Russia is now, perhaps this is shifting, and India moving closer to Russia isn't as much of a concern.

I'm quite interested to see how this all turns out.

mynameakevin

Rumors are rife that Pakistani F-16s might be eligible for V (Blk 70) upgrades.

Clearly, Pakistan is currently in the good books of USA because:

1-Pakistan showed extreme composure and calm and de-escalatory motives during recent Indo Pak clashes even though India attacked Pakistan with absolute no reasoning and got its ass whipped

2-Pakistan downed each of India's top fighter jets, Rafales, MKI, M2K, Mig 29 with no loss of own. Pakistan could have shot down way more. There is nothing India has that can out range Pl15 missiles.

3-USA wasn't expecting this, and US intelligence informed Trump that Indians are about to be sent to oblivion on May 9th, which is what forced USA to get into ceasefire talks

4-USA knows and world knows that Pakistan is a powerful country in south asian and central asian region. India is no where near what it portrays itself to be. India cannot win from Pakistan let alone counter China.

5-Americans have been pretty pissed with Indians, H1Bs, Tech ofshoring etc. So Americans themselves don't have soft corner for Indians anymore

If anything, this is all positive for Pakistan and Pakistan must take this opportunity. Recently, the US EXIMP also approved financing for Reko Diq.....this is rare and rarely US EXIMP banks approve loans for Pakistani projects.

Important-Parsley-38

trump don't like losers.. and when he said 5 jets got shot down, he knows exactly who shot down who.

on and india is too smart for itself, believe in nothing, not aligned with anyone, no full comittment whatsoever, but absolutely takes any tiny small advantage it can.. reselling russian oil, reselling chinese rare earth etc.. earning tiny money but piss off everyone at the same time... but yet still want the benefit from all sides... all that does is that you so smart, no one trusts you, just literally ask anyone about the reputation of indian businessman in the world, never EVER do payment plan with indian businessman, 100% full front cash payment or nothing else, if you dont, your indian buyer's deposit = full payment lol

SelectGear3535

SS: When President Donald Trump announced a deal last week to exploit Pakistan’s “massive” oil reserves, Pakistanis were puzzled. Governments here have dreamed for decades of finding and extracting enough oil to turn around the country’s economic fortunes, but none of their attempts have succeeded. The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) has estimated that Pakistan might hold 9.1 billion barrels of recoverable oil — a figure cited frequently by Pakistani officials to court foreign investors. But these reserves have not been proved, cautioned Afia Malik, an energy researcher here. Trump suggested that new investment would come from private U.S. sources. The most ambitious attempt ended in 2019, when a consortium that included ExxonMobil searched off Karachi but found no oil or gas deposits.Some suspect Trump is sending a message to neighboring India, Pakistan’s more populous and more economically influential archrival. While some here doubt that Pakistan is a priority to Trump, officials say they have noticed an improvement in relations with Washington. The renewed American interest in Pakistan, some analysts suspect, might be less about oil than access to minerals and rare earths.But as with oil, most of Pakistan’s mineral deposits are unexplored and could be difficult to exploit. Islamabad is concerned about the rising militancy of the Pakistani Taliban in the northwestern province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Separatist groups in the southwestern province of Baluchistan, meanwhile, are escalating their fight against the government.

ll--o--ll

Time to get "democracy" to Pakistan, I suppose.

curiousgaruda

Instead of addressing Pakistan's complex relationship with militant groups aka terrorists - which the US has long navigated carefully to balance against China and India, now they're now actively courting them with dem dubious oil deals. Classic Trump - big announcements about "massive reserves" that probably don't exist, then he'll move on to the next shiny object or rhetoric.

Makes me wonder what would've happened if India had given the 'credit' to Trump for may ceasfires too. Egonomics with this guy.

BRiNk9

My aspirations when studying IR theory is to one day be able to explain USA's Stockholm Syndrome with regards to Pakistan. In the 21st century, more US soldiers have died due to Pakistani shenanigans than any other declared enemies of USA, and yet US finds itself going back to Pakistan like a battered wife still in love with her abusive husband. What sweet nothings do the Pakistani generals whisper in the ears of the Americans?

Of course, Pakistani strategy is obvious. Convince Americans to come to Pakistan, stage or facilitate a terrorist attack by BLA or TTP on the Americans, blame either Afghanistan or India for it (why not both!), and pull the Americans back into the same quagmire that they spent 20 years in. Next step: shipping containers filled with dollars docking at Karachi.

What makes the Americans so strategically illiterate that they keep falling for it?

StarsInTears

The only gas Pakistanis have are emanating  from the crackholes of millions of Islamist terrorists housed in terror camps across the country. Trumpanzee can lick the Pakistani Munir all he wants , but wouldn’t have any oil there or in Bin Laden’s private compound.

CampEmbarrassed170

I can understand if Trump can't find Pakistan on a map, much less know about its oil. But surely he has competent advisors ? Unless DOGE has sacked them all and he plans to run foreign policy by tweets.   
There is no US Ambassador to India and he does not seem inclined to appoint one.

Dean_46

Is anyone know about how much of this oil discovery is true, even if it's true, is it a feasible project?

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Just a reminder Pakistani government is also trying to persuade them to get into mineral mining in Balochistan as well

kanEDY7

Patani yaar, har 2-3 saal baad ye log koi naye oil reserves nikal lete hain lol

Independent-Log2986

It’s not oil reserves, it’s mineral reserves for their chips that were originally made in Taiwan.

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The only oil reserves Pakistan have are the ones being smuggled by Na-Pak Army from Iran.

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mfs_rao

its all part of laurd munir's master plan to take over da wurldddz

throwaway102885857

I may be wrong, and you can disagree with me too. But I think it's good like America getting involved atleast we will get something warna agar pakistanio lo ghusso do, then onho ne apni he pockets barhni.. Agar cheezein sirf pakistani ke hath me hu tu not even 5% ka koi faida hoga lekin agar America apne hath me leta kam se kam 10% outcome to milega. And again I don't support America to be getting involved in Pakistan but I guess we don't have any other choice.

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pathannsays

Wake up baby, it's time for your daily dose of umreeki saazish

resident-commando420

That’s why there’s been many Vloggers in PK recently.

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While simultaneously screwing over India. Yeah this tracks.

Lumpy-Marsupial-6617

&gt; *"Pakistan nominated President Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize in recognition of his decisive diplomatic intervention to prevent a nuclear war between India and Pakistan."*

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This is going to be so funny to watch. Any money that goes into Pakistan first settles in the military's pockets, then trickles down to the puppet politicians, then the crony businessmen, and the last few pennies are actually what reach the ground-level efforts. 

By the time any meaningful amount of money is actually at the ground level in Pakistan, the whole world would have electrified already.

KinTharEl

Those aren't the Epstein files!

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book.  These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

—————————other Epstein Information

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

Some people think this claim is a hoax.  Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid

—————————other Trump information:

Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka

Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

Do your part and spread them around like a meme sharing them and saving them helps too!

AND

Reminder:

•⁠Trump Confesses He Was ‘Sexually Attracted’ to Ivanka When She Was 13 Years Old

•⁠https://www.politicalflare.com/2024/07/trump-confesses-he-was-sexually-attracted-to-ivanka-when-she-was-13-year-old/

•⁠Donald Trump called his own daughter a ‘voluptuous piece of a**’ in yet more lewd comments threatening to derail his White House bid

•⁠https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1940073/donald-trump-called-his-own-daughter-a-voluptuous-piece-of-a-in-yet-more-lewd-comments-threatening-to-derail-his-white-house-bid

•⁠Donald Trump Once Joked He and Ivanka Have “Sex” in Common

•⁠https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/donald-trump-once-joked-he-ivanka-have-sex-common-941600/

•⁠Trump’s lewd talk about daughter Ivanka in front of White House staff recalled in new book

•⁠https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trumps-lewd-talk-about-daughter-ivanka-in-front-of-white-house-staff-recalled-in-new-book/

According to The New Republic, “’Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [former Chief of Staff] John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,’ Taylor, who served as a Department of Homeland Security chief of staff under Trump, wrote in his book.”

•⁠"You remind me of my daughter": Stormy Daniels testifies that Trump compared her to Ivanka

•⁠https://www.salon.com/2024/05/07/you-remind-me-of-my-daughter-stormy-daniels-testifies-that-compared-her-to-ivanka/#:~:text=At%20one%20point%2C%20Daniels%20said,his%20underwear%20on%20the%20bed.

•⁠Donald Trump's comments about daughter raise eyebrows

•⁠https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/10/11/donald-trump-comments-about-daughter-ivanka-feyerick-dnt-erin.cnn

•⁠Trump told Howard Stern it’s OK to call Ivanka a ‘piece of a--'

•⁠https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-ivanka-piece-of-ass-howard-stern-229376

•⁠Trump: ‘If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her’

•⁠https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html

•⁠Trump on Ivanka: ‘She has the ‘best body’ — and I created her’

•⁠https://forward.com/schmooze/357185/7-creepy-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-ivanka/

•⁠Trump: ‘Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife’?

•⁠https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tamerragriffin/trump-asked-if-its-wrong-to-be-attracted-to-his-daughter#.muLN7d3M2

•⁠Trump Encouraged His Own Daughter Ivanka to Release a Sex Tape, and She Was Horrified

•⁠https://www.salon.com/2019/08/06/donald-trump-encouraged-his-eldest-daughter-to-release-a-sex-tape_partner/

Bonus:

•⁠Trump: commenting on his 1-year-old daughter Tiffany’s breasts. He also says “she’s got Marla’s legs.”

Double Bonus:

For the better part of two decades starting in the late 1980s, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump swam in the same social pool. They were neighbors in Florida. They jetted from LaGuardia to Palm Beach together. They partied at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and dined at Epstein’s Manhattan mansion.

•⁠https://archive.md/XK0A7#selection-655.0-655.290

and...

MC2 (pronounced MC squared) was the modeling agency that Epstein, Brunel, and the mob would use to get trafficked girls into the US with “genius visas”

•⁠https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/former-model-agent-close-to-jeffrey-epstein-found-hanged-1235085929/

and...

Nicknamed the "Einstein Visa", the EB-1 is in theory reserved for people who are highly acclaimed in their field - the government cites Pulitzer, Oscar, and Olympic winners as examples - as well as respected academic researchers and multinational executives.

Mrs Trump began applying for the visa in 2000, when she was Melania Knauss, a Slovenian model working in New York and dating Donald Trump. She was approved in 2001, one of just five people from Slovenia to win the coveted visa that year, according to the Post.

•⁠https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43256318

NeitherCrapCondo

trump is delusional if he thinks india is going to buy oil from pakistan he would have better luck trying to sell russian oil to ukraine

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