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Pakistani tiktok brigade that was recording and posting literally every military movement couldn't record giant jets and AWAC wreckage that would have fallen over the most populated regions of the country... I love how Indians can't even make their bullshit sound atleast a little believable.

Pure-Toxicity

Indian pilots downed Pakistani Death Star with indigenous photon torpedoes

Professional-Ad-8878

In a 4.5 gen warfare,  It took indians 3 month's to come up with a number. Nice.

its_BaN3

hereforporn-

Just put the fries in the bag bro, it's been 90 days.

Strange_Cartoonist14

Note = IAF cheif did not showed any evidence of claims

Bright_Thanks_2277

heliumagency

For anybody wondering why he would make such a absurd claim 3 months after the conflict, know that the independence days for both Pakistan and India are coming up in about a week so he needs to give his domestic audience a lollypop.

It's kind of incredible that we get less propaganda in news from Russia and Ukraine than from India.

sjintje

And he is absolutely right. As a Pakistani, I should admit what happened and that happened over my house ffs. The jet literally crashed in front of my door and blew it up. I died. I came back from the dead after "3 months" to expose the truth. I cannot be dead in peace if my lore get falsified. I am great full to IAF for being brave enough to talk about me. No matter how much time have passed, I still appreciate thier bold decision to come out with the truth. I will forever cheer their incompetence from my grave. Sorry I meant competency and bravery. I cannot delete the written text so please don't take it as sarcasm. I know my claim is less credible but this sub seems like a place which will embrace my truth with open arms.

WoodpeckerNo7169

LOLOL. Give it up already, indian. Suck it and move on

commanche_00

cft4201

Also a squadron of X-Wings and new Chinese TIE-Fighters.

Tian_Lei_Ind_Ltd

lol ok. Guess he just woke out of his depression caused slumber

TangerineMaximus92

Absolute clownery, and Indian public will actually believe this too while Bollywood makes a thousand films out of it.

outtayoleeg

The timing of this revelation is highly suspicious. India is reeling from an alleged voter fraud accusation that is all over the Indian subreddits.

ratbearpig

Looks like the IAF has no idea how to do a BDA and relies on quack OSINT accounts to fill in the narrative gap.

No_Public_7677

&gt;If there were any constrains they were self made
&gt;We had full freedom to plan and execute

I find this much more interesting because it means that the claims about the IAF being restricted with ROE and losing fighters was wrong . Which is kind of concerning for them.

Korn-e-lus

It’s just so obviously “accuse your opponent about what you’re insecure about”

JoJoeyJoJo

So…the Indians waited 3 months after their air forces reputation was tarnished, their government becoming a joke and only then they are like “yh, we shot down 6 planes, confirmed!” Like, really? Are we this stupid to buy it?

PanzerKomadant

Indian jets shoot down wreckages evidence 


[Rafale wreckage ](https://x.com/Defence_GDA/status/1929570792750153938?t=v8tE-u9OgbE3h2-ryKMorA&amp;s=19)

[Mig29upg wreckage ](https://x.com/Defence_GDA/status/1929570787532451990?t=b3bbw1MeA4WQU9DwcR6JDQ&amp;s=19)

[Mirage2000 Wreckage ](https://x.com/Defence_GDA/status/1929570797988835719?t=bVdHnCOhKyRGfvv2ZKG8MQ&amp;s=19)

[Su30mki wreckage ](https://x.com/Defence_GDA/status/1929570781954212270?t=OvMnRnx_IGDHcADjT1tRQQ&amp;s=19)

[india accepted losses](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-31/india-confirms-it-lost-fighter-jets-in-recent-pakistan-conflict)

Please note that while Pakistan provided the exact number and type of aircraft along with digital signatures, call signs, coordinates, images and even audio from a rafale formation, India has simply said "we shot down 5 jets .... hmm 1 more" 

Not to mention their obsession with F-16s which USA has confirmed that the PAF fleet is intact. 

I think its just meant for their local audience which will believe anything.

Accomplished-Lie5586

This IAF chief is so lazy and formulaic. Pakistan shot down 5 IAF aircraft including setting the world record for longest confirmed air to air kill. What does India do? They claim they shot down *six* aircraft and *they* set the record for longest air to air kill. 

It’s so laughably pathetic and unbelievable. But also lazy. They couldn’t even bother to change their homework a little bit to make it more credible. Lol 

Next week, the IAF will claim the Tejas shot down 10 PAF aircraft while still in its hangar setting a world record for being the first 3,5 gen fighter/SAM system.

Fat_Tony_Damico

let me guess j10c, jf17, f16, what else? lol any visual evidence of the claim? there is no Indian AAM has longer range than PL-15

tigeryi98

LawyerSea9462

so trump was correct about the 5 jets shot down afterall?

Haunting_Cover2342

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/s/HLhAEai6ZC

Found this on an Indian sub , can’t verify it

Straight-Knowledge83

Snafflepagus

What is truth doing in my CCP propaganda sub?

Vivid-Ice-1544

One kill was made at 300Km, which is the highest range kill, ever made, period. Incredible work.

The Pakistanis were quick to clean up everything it seems, one of the 5 aircraft that was shot down:

[https://xcancel.com/DfIlite/status/1930686399709139101](https://xcancel.com/DfIlite/status/1930686399709139101)

Was cleared up within hours. Luckily some people were able to get the satellite images in quickly.

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They also claimed an F16 being shotdown in 2019 conflict to save face. 

Interesting thing is even in this lie they didn't credit their incomptetent AF with an A2A kill. Apparently it was aS400 saving the day for them. You can guage the level of their Airforce.

hyder404

https://preview.redd.it/9g4h2mjvkyhf1.jpeg?width=300&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=36445c4727b0e6eea88e4d1b36e53efd3306740b

under_stress274

Modi government is embroiled in an election scam and that’s how they choose to divert attention of the public. What a timing.

TheUnlawfulConsul

https://preview.redd.it/4f141l83myhf1.jpeg?width=300&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=741b88c110a2abc597fa5af2aaa1dc01fe8a1187

Reminds me of this guy

Visdomb

He’s right. I’m the fifth jet. We were all hanging out smoking pot when the s 400 came and shot us down with his buddy the IAF chief saying “jani akele akele?” Then they took us home and we all enjoyed some pot with their fam. I remember it was a beautiful day the sun was shining as bright as gandu jee’s tind.

nonamego2hell

pehlay sorahay thay kal hi pata chala h inko :D

Serious-Cover5486

Never understood why it was so tough for them to understand the world outside their media. They talk about F-16s, but then independent counts show that the PAF fleet was consistent to any prior engagements. One of the most guarded borders in the world, yet they got attacked in the most militarized zone on the planet. Then, the attackers "disappeared" only for the BJP to say "we got them", and they ate that up.

I find this mentality quite similar to the post 2001 Bush media, where they ate up everything republicans spat out. What happened in the end? No WMDs. Just massively damaged credibility and the amplification of China and Russia's rise.

They can't seriously believe this shit perpetuated by their leaders and media. Even the average Pakistani that hates their government isn't gonna go out defending the elite in the way that the average Indian here on Reddit does. I remember the talks saying that this engagement with India was a distraction by the army over the country's real issues.

But look across the border, journalists harassing Indian Muslims to say "Pakistan murdabad", destroying Hyderabad's Karachi Bakery, Barkha Dutt editing her video thumbnail to appear younger and beautiful, while using a bad photo of Hina Rabbani, then Ranveer with his ear piece lol. What a fucking shitshow lol.

I saw this cringe reddit comment saying that India was restrained and that they would have breakfast in Islamabad, lunch in Lahore and dinner in Karachi lol. To any Indian reading this that perpetuates this bullshit, it is never gonna happen, bury these rabid fantasies. Being hawkish will get everyone killed, just so BJP gets more votes. Focus on the common enemy. Pollution, climate change, poverty, wealth concentration at the top, Modi's cronyism.

It is scary, but Pakistan does have their unofficial Samson option. If Pakistan is going down, they absolutely will take India with it, they absolutely will use nukes on Pakistani soil if it means to annihilate India. It was famously said, we will eat grass but we will get a nuke. Or, India is the only Hindu state, whereas there are multiple Muslim states (rumored: Zia Ul Haq to Rajiv Gandhi). You talk big on Islam, but the moment the gulf states summon your ambassadors and issue boycotts, you fold. 

Hear this from us, since you lurk here. Pakistan does have an unofficial Samson option. If it is facing balkanization with advancing troops, we will all be gone. It’s insane how we have the most in common than any other country but get along the least. 

No one wants this. We hate our political elites, as should you. Because they do not care about us. Our common enemy in climate change and wealth concentration is the greatest risk to our livelihoods. Modi loots you just as our army does too, but they’ve made us common people enemies to hold power and prevent wealth redistribution. We have way more in common with one another than we do with the political and societal elites of our respective countries.

ArcadianMerlot

In ki lag hi dunya hai. I saw the press and they offered no proof whatsoever. This is just a last ditch attempt to rub their noses on the ground before their phiraaaaaand Doluuuunnn Tiruuuump to say "sir pleej, we powerphul saar, look we cans counters China saar, Pakistan nothing saar". 

The narrative has been set a long time ago, IAF is a joke and lost 6 planes. Nobody except indians is buying this bs lol

Jade_Rook

MrEfffsola

He didn't REEDEM the evidence it seems like it

gintoki_1513

it took them 3months to verify something that PAF verified in 3 minutes

seems like copium to me

Successful-Silver485

Its coping for the chest beating RSS BJP chaddis. They got their pants pulled down badly and are resorting to BS. Same as before.

India lost multiple planes.

ProfAsmani

mindlesspotato-

Godjilla here, I was there when my friend godjilla 3 shot down Pakistani jets all 5 of them in 5 seconds

Necessary_Being_4565

Seems like Sarrrdar gee is using Internet Explorer. Paa gee, that conflict was 3 months ago. Itni dair mein aapke apne 2-3 jets tau IAF ne wesse hi girra diye hein.

Superb_Virus2158

Lmao sure. He's saying that after 3 months? And where's the proof for Pakistani involvement in the Pahalgam attack? Still can't find it.

BarakRhys

AbraarB_

Brah. All our pilots are alive except for the one who received Shahadat after ceasefire was brokered and they attack our air hangar.

No-Handle-9628

So they claimed that they struck aircrafts parked at Jacobabad airbase with S-400. Isn’t that S-400 surface to air missile system and not surface to surface? Also it’s not a ‘shot down’ if they struck on the ground as they claimed. Pretty low quality story now they are coming up with after months lol.

TheAccountantWhat

This news/statement is for the uneducated masses who eat this type of news.. similarly I heard from some people how they got the news from active army personnel that we went 8km deep in India which caused them to do ceasefire.

Made_Bad_Plans

There is something really wrong with this brain rot nation.

Born_Horror_7413

Indian Modus Operandi : False Flag -&gt; Blame game -&gt; War mongering -&gt; Attack -&gt; Get humiliated -&gt; false claims -&gt; Repeat

Healthy-Win15

There would have been pictures and videos if Pakistani fighter jets had been shot down just like locals from the indian side took pictures and videos of Indian fighter jets shot down 

Also dont forget the vote scam is an ongoing heated debate going on in India at present .. The BJP government wants to divert public attention from that

shehzore12

He's getting fired..he leaked the scripts of their newest movie..

l2izwan

&gt; Chief Air Chief Marshal AP Singh said India’s S-400 air defence system shot down five Pakistani fighter jets and a large surveillance aircraft during Operation Sindoor.

Within 24 hours of Putin and Modi having a phone call, India comes out singing praises of Russian defense tech.

Not suspicious at all...

enterprisevalue

After few months they will say that India had imposed 50% tariffs on US and not US imposing 50% tariffs on India. If their nation can believe that there is a port in Lahore, they can believe on anything.

ThatSquirrel6827

It's important to understand **WHY** the IAF has come out and made all these false claims **right now**. 

The leader of the opposition Rahul Gandhi (think of Baby Bhutto but even more incompetent) has come out and levelled a serious accusation against the the Election Commission of India. He's claimed [and you can watch in this video which is causing shockwaves in India here](https://youtu.be/99LAC2OjlnQ) in a press conference that 1 lakh extra votes were fraudulently "created" to ensure victory in the Bangalore Lok Sabha (lower house, think our National Assembly in Pakistan) and in turn victory for the current ruling party, BJP in 2024. 

The government is under extreme pressure after this has come to light and to throw the media off their tail and to divert attention the IAF has hosted this *show and tell* for the Indian public. Which is basically another case of *false flag*, if you will. In the last false flag they passed the Caste vote and this...well, is this. 

Largest democracy on Earth, my ass.

apples_oranges_

sharry2

I also shot down 12 F35s and half a dozen F22s for good measure. Believeeee me saaaar. I also love Israeli woman saarrrrrrr... bold and beautiful sarrrr.

Gambit90k

He is the same chief that got beaten up by his juniors after Operation Balatkaar by PAF during Operation Sindoor.

ShamHelugo

That’s actually wrong he’s being generous for us the number is 10 they shot down 10 of our jets 🥺

AyaanGaming27

No one is going to believe this anymore especially modi is getting accused of election fraud now so the timing of this is very suspicious.

protonsters

Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies 🎵

MERC543213

Do they go into hibernation after setting the stage to perform drama and the actor they chose remain clueless about the script? And when they finally do wake up from self induced hibernation, they provide the script to the actors and no matter how humiliating it would be, the actors had no choice but to read it.

It is one of the biggest shit show in recent history of both nations to the point that there were multiple pressers, interviewes, debates and they never once doubted that they could have downed multiple enemy jets and should tell their public or the world to show thier valor/capabilities off to the entire globe. How crappy are they at their jobs?

Tbh that statement is too stupid given the timing since it would benefit them more domestically at least, if the statement would be right after that Trump chest thumping about stopping war and claiming that 5 jets were shot down during the conflict. Like they could have claimed that and their public would have ate that( they still would ngl) but the timing is too off and doesn't make sense. What is the thought process behind this nonsense? BJP was utterly bitter and was cornered by their opposition about hypocrisy and web of lies during parliament debate and now this. 

Did our jet crashed in India because the videos were coming from India not Pakistan? And if yes, than why they were silent or they are too dumb to make a distinction between thier own or enemy jets? Because they are claiming that 5 Pakistani jets were downed and Trump claimed that 5 jets were downed,  so according to their statement, all the claimed downed jets were Pakistanis which mean ( according to thier statement) the videos from Kashmir and Bathinda were of Pakistani jets (right) but they also said no jet crossed border, so what were they waiting for? Permission? 

And if Trump was lying and the number of jets were not 5 as clearly there are videos from India that jets were shot down in Indian territory and it ultimately cancel what Trump claimed and more jets were shot downed , 5 Pakistani and unknown Indian jets than why they are reluctant to tell how many of their own were downed? Because then they would be at top by shooting down more Pakistani jets while they lost less ( I suppose). And if no jets from IAF were shot down than they were clearly lying about no jets crossing the border as all the claimed downed 5 jets were Pakistani, right? Make it make sense(lurkers).

Or there are another possibilities either they are too dumb to differentiate between thier own and enemy jets or they are too afraid of China to even claim thier actual kills because the jets were Chinese. Or they are clueless at warfare that they didn't even knew that they shot down multiple jets and some well wisher called them and informed them that they are actually capable of this amazing feat. Or they are grade A liars. Am I missing something?

testuserpk

Everything that Pakistan says, after few weeks India says that we had done it. We can see who is telling the truth and who is looking for face saving in their public.

Alright, so let's break it down.

  
\- Both IAF and PAF confirmed neither countries jets crossed the border.

\- Both IAF and PAF verified the range of combat was exceeding 100 miles, however due to the terminology used we can assume it was **under** 200 miles.

\- S400 range is up to 250 miles. Which implies they used S400 SAMs for cross-border attacks on jets within their own airspace? Doesn't make sense.

\- The S400 must've been anchored right on the border for the range to be effective, and for it to shoot down not just one but **five** jets. Surprisingly, no videos, no pictures, no post of any kind related to these jets came up in months. This being the only source suggesting this. We had pictures of Indian jets burning immediately?

Fuckyoursadface

The claim is so bogus even the bigots over at 
r/worldnews are pushing back against.

Thats-Slander

india lying?? that can't possibly be the case!

SenpaiBunss

its been months and they still talking about this?

indian airforce is a joke lol

AlteredCabron2

meanwhile some countries (who enjoy importing cheap labour from Pk, India etc) smiling sitting in the corner, "keep fighting you fools. good for us" 

1.3 billion of sub contient cant host a single cricket match between them and need "neutral" place meanwhile those neutral places are treating your citizenns like labour n ppl begging for visas.   amazing

loneranger7860

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This actually brings up an interesting hypothetical. Suppose India got its shit together and managed to make a Tejas, would that perform better than the Rafales? 

In my opinion...no. The complete failure of planning for the attack is insurmountable. Everyone is comparing the J-10 with the Rafale when the real problem is lack of battle space awareness and flying a literal 7 nation army of aircraft (good luck mechanics...). I don't think India even knows what they are going to do tomorrow.

&gt; After "Operation Sindoor," conducted by India on the night of May 6 to 7 in Pakistan, as a retaliation for an attack in Pahalgam, in the Indian Kashmir region on April 22, the show of force intended by New Delhi is widely viewed by many military experts as a significant underperformance. Despite the bombing of nearly a dozen sites in Pakistan, with significant damage observed, India was forced to acknowledge the loss of at least three fighter jets during this operation. These major losses reveal the weaknesses of the Indian Air Force.

&gt; Based on open-source footage analysis, the hypothesis of at least one Rafale being destroyed is deemed credible by Paris. For the aircraft manufactured by the French company Dassault, this would be a first in combat.

&gt; This sequence also fits into a complicated context for the Indian military, which has struggled for many years to boost its air combat capabilities. This is despite significant investments to modernize its fleet, notably the purchase in 2016 of 36 Rafales for around €8 billion.

&gt; The Indian Air Force comprises about 30 fighter squadrons. But more than a dozen are equipped with old Russian planes – Sukhoi 30 MKI and MiG-21. Four squadrons consist of very old French Jaguar aircraft – retired in France since 2005 – and aging Mirages, purchased in the 1980s. These are supposed to be replaced by a locally manufactured aircraft called Tejas by the Indian aviation company HAL, but the manufacturer has faced delays. Since the start of the war in Ukraine in February 2022, India has also suffered from supply issues for spare parts from Russia.

&gt; The Indian Air Force launched its operation while grappling with long-standing recruitment and pilot training challenges. In December 2024, a report from the Comptroller and Auditor General of India highlighted these issues, citing concerns over the lack of effective simulators for training, given that the air forces have very little operational experience. As for the Rafales, they only began arriving in Indian forces starting in 2020, with the last deliveries occurring in 2022.

&gt; Throughout May 7, despite triumphalist tones about the success of "Operation Sindoor," Indian authorities worked to deny the destruction of combat aircraft and downplay civilian losses, defending actions as "measured, non-escalatory, proportionate, and responsible." Several media outlets in the country were compelled to remove information about aircraft crashes from their websites under pressure from the Narendra Modi government.

&gt; "If aircraft have been lost, it's certainly a setback. If Rafales have been lost, it's an even bigger setback and naturally tarnishes the image of the Indian operation. Losing aircraft is never good, but losing aircraft while trying to conduct a clearly planned, rehearsed and prepared operation is inevitably painful and embarrassing," said Sushant Singh, a former Indian Army officer and strategic analyst.

&gt; Did India underestimate its adversary's capabilities and overestimate its own strength? Its armies are mobilized on two fronts in the Himalayas, along the "Line of Control," 740 kilometers shared with Pakistan, and along the "Line of Actual Control," 3,488 kilometers contested by China. Since 2020, following a deadly hand-to-hand confrontation with the People's Liberation Army soldiers on the icy heights of Ladakh, significant forces have been amassed in this region.

&gt; The coming hours and days could be decisive. Pakistan is preparing its response. Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has vowed to "avenge every drop of blood of these martyrs." "Our enemies thought they could attack us under the cover of darkness and in secrecy, but they failed," he declared during an extraordinary session of Parliament.

&gt; "If Pakistan attempts to attack India or retaliate with an operation causing significant Indian casualties or injuring Indian soldiers, New Delhi might then be forced to respond even more forcefully, leading to a much graver crisis," argued Singh.

&gt; The confrontation between the two nuclear powers is already considered the most serious since 1971. The international community watches the evolving situation with concern. "I want them to stop. And I hope they can stop now," US President Donald Trump said from Washington. "The world must show zero tolerance for terrorism," responded Indian Foreign Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar on X.

&gt; For Happymoon Jacob, "Operation Sindoor," a "high-intensity, open, and public military operation," marks a doctrinal innovation in India's response to terrorism after years of attempting low-intensity military actions, such as in Uri in 2016 and Balakot in 2019. It "seeks to create a tripwire situation regarding escalation" in case of conflict, explained this professor at Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi, in an article published in India's World. The underlying Indian doctrine is that by carrying out a terrorist attack against India, it is actually Pakistan, its adversary, that triggers a conventional military conflict.

moses_the_blue

u/sandm4n_RS, what are they talking about?

Can you post the forum where they’re discussing f16 down by IAF so that we can share proof of this by 50+ indian channels

lateswingDownUnder

Is the Operation Over? No. Then, Shut Up.

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rkaria1970

He is just jealous that he wasn't selected in the delegation

child_target

This is what Rahul's family has done for generations - national treason.

LittleBlueCubes

Shadow7676

Sometimes I feel this a$$ clown is not real but a robot. No one can be this goddamn disingenuous.

NumberOnANapkin_26

Try not to prove loyalty to George Soros, Season 13, Episode:9. Difficulty Level: Extreme

Striking-barnacle110

Now you know why IAF hasn’t disclosed full details. GOI knows that fools like Pappu will promote Pakistan’s narrative sooner or later and it will be a good opportunity to expose them.

snowandclouds

akashsal2704

Thats good .when he says things like this BJP gets more votes from fence sitters and the ' undecideds ' .....Pappuji is doing campaigning for Modiji and destroying congress from within

Vincent_Farrell

I mean that's politics and of course questions should be asked. But it's incredibly stupid the way Congress approaches it. There are so many relevant and genuine questions to be asked like foreign policy and our Air force doctrine but this idiot is squandering once in a lifetime opportunity by clinging on and twisting an irrelevant statement made by a minister.


I am a certified hater of BJP politics but a lack of a coherent opposition is enabling BJP and they're getting even more lax. Country needs to collectively get it's shit together because we are losing our credibility on the world stage + China is literally choking us geopolitically.

what_a_drag_

Feels more like a paxtan lobbyist than the opposition leader

NarutoBoy87

This clown will now question S.Jaishankar? It's like a 5th grader telling a physics professor that his integral calculations are wrong.

Bleachigo1

Would I be wrong in thinking that giving sparse details to porkies about the 9 terror camps strike was to drive in the fact that it was non-escalatory? I could be gravely mistaken for all I know so do correct me.

Admirable-Echidna-37

Can we all report his profile to get deleted?

tp143

What if rahul gandhi is actually from bjp ? Like think about it his job is to say stupid stuff like this so even tho people don’t like bjp theyll still choose them just to avoif rahul gandhi

Soft_Lion_5958

blushingRyuko

PayDull7871

Why it is wrong to inform Pak upfront. It is Infact the correct way of doing it. Am i missing something or RaGa is missing everything 🤨

Dinstl

NIA ko sabse phle ise andar daalna chahiye

SyllabubIcy1446

mayurayuri45

He accidentally scored more seats than expected last election. He was failing at his job as the BJP spokesperson so he is trying harder this time.

pianospace37

I don't know why and how people follow this clown and even pisi also

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