Public sentiment surrounding the Ukraine-Russia peace talks is largely negative, characterized by skepticism and frustration towards the effectiveness and sincerity of the discussions. Many commenters express concerns over the exclusion of Ukraine from negotiations, viewing it as disrespectful and potentially harmful to its sovereignty. The perception that leaders like Trump and Putin are engaging in talks that may favor Russia, without Ukraine's input, fuels widespread disillusionment. Overall, there is a strong consensus that any peace negotiations must prioritize direct Ukrainian representation and respect for its territorial integrity.

Zelensky

Trump

Putin

Sad that Zelensky have to play along to keep Trump happy. This shit ain’t going anywhere. 

Just pump Ukraine with supplies and arm them. 

wizgset27

Do diplomacy as if you weren't fighting, fight as if you weren't talking.

TremendousVarmint

I highly doubt that. I think this is mainly a rhetoric to please Trump.

irimiash

Free_Philly

myroosterprettyfunny

Acrobatic_Morning17

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The best way to get Putin round the table for peace talks is by forcing him. The Russian people have made it very clear that they don’t care about the war as long as they don’t feel it, so let it rain missiles on Moscow (hit some office blocks at night when nobody’s around) and the people might finally turn against their dictator.

Tman11S

Zelenskyy has expressed openness to this only in exchange for NATO membership

DENNYCR4NE

Yeah, that’s not going to fly. Just another peace talk without the party that’s been invaded.

Lubbadubdibs

Where have I seen this sort of appeasement before? I swear it's riech at the tip of my tongue.

Queasy_Task7015

&gt; In 1996 Ukraine handed over nuclear weapons to Russia "in exchange for a guarantee never to be threatened or invaded".

Try it again? Bold strategy, Cotton

Subject-Reach7646

He is going to make a deal with Putin that will be unacceptable to Ukraine and when Ukraine refuses to honor the deal he will use it as an excuse to stop giving aid to Ukraine. Putin probably came up with the plan and is using Krasnov to get his way.

Jubal59

"Some swapping, it's complicated."

I bet he couldnt even find Ukraine on a map, let alone the different Oblasts.

What would be given back anyways? Donetsk and Luhanks are almost completely Russian at this point. Crimea is completely off the table.

No way in fuck does Putin cede even an inch. What would he gain out of this?

Edit: as others have pointed out, Russia wont agree with this either. As soon as all of the border skirmishes are finished, Ukraine could join NATO. So Russias best interest is to keep the front lines active.

Delanorix

Aethoni_Iralis

Not up to trump and Putin to draw borders. Borders are already in place. Trump needs to go.

Devils_Advocate-69

This is all hot air and show. When Ukraine tells them to pound salt, Trump will blame them for peace talks falling apart. Peace talks they were not part of.  Then again Trump has brokered so many peace deals so far during this term. It’s something like one a week or month or who knows.  Not even the countries he brokered the deals for know he did it.

SmurfStig

Putin is a war criminal. He should be arrested immediately. He doesn’t have the cards unless he has some info on Donald’s kiddy fiddling. MAGA doesn’t care how many kids he may have raped.

Chemical-Bee-8876

Ask Czechoslovakia. Nobody should expect a peace deal. Ukraine wont give up any territory, and Russia wont make a deal without the eastern regions. Unless other countries (spefically the EU) put troops on the ground, this is going to be a long term conflict

abqguardian

we should probably just give Ukraine back the nukes they gave up, in return for a peace deal, and let them deal with it -- I'm sure they'll negotiate sensibly

Bulawayoland

More on this subject from other reputable sources:

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- Reuters (A): [Kremlin says Putin and Trump will meet in coming days](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-putin-trump-will-meet-coming-days-2025-08-07/)
- Daily Beast (D): [Trump Says Ukraine Will Surrender Land to Putin for Peace](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-says-ukraine-will-surrender-land-to-putin-for-peace/)
- CNN.com (C+): [Trump says he'll soon meet with Putin \| CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/08/politics/trump-putin-meeting?Date=20250808&amp;Profile=CNN+International)
- WION (C): [Trump-Putin meet in jeopardy? Russia refuses US President&amp;#x27;s one condition for Ukraine peace talks - What does it mean?](https://www.wionews.com/world/trump-putin-meet-in-jeopardy-russia-refuses-us-president-s-one-condition-for-ukraine-peace-talks-what-does-it-mean-1754594199894)

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newswall-org

This is a non starter without Ukraine involved.

BobSnobtx

Just give him his Nobel.  Its fine.  Everything makes perfect sense!  /s

ILLfated28

Would President TACO have it any other way?

I wonder how long before Putin breaks that agreement?

wsrs25

Let’s see how it shakes out. Trying to hold peace talks is never a bad idea.

beeredditor

After months of stalling, Russia stalls some more. Slow news week lol.

kloischenclank

You know Russia can end this war by leaving Ukraine, right? This war is 100% Russia's fault. No-one else into blame but Putin and his posey.

Travyswole

You keep invading and killing and somehow you want peace?

Who believes this crap from Russia?

Morfeu1234

"It's everyone's fault but mine!"

\- Putin.

008Zulu

The "Why won't you give up and let us hit you some more"  peace talks?

Bulky_Cranberry702

Putin is stalling Russia right into the ground.

Easy_Soupee

Classic victim blaming. DARVO for all to see.

All_Work_All_Play

Why is talking needed. Just withdraw from Ukraine and apologize, help with reconstruction and return the 500k+ kidnanapped children to Ukraine for starters.

kujasgoldmine

When caught red-handed cry it is not Your hand ;)

Fit_Ad_7708

Typical gaslighting as always from Russia.   
They aren't serious about peace. Never were. Never will.

Roselily808

Well, we all blame Russia for being in this situation to begin with, so there’s that. 

They can end it just as soon as they fuck off back to their own country.

jmptx

vkarabut

This is their way of saying they are waiting for Ukraine to agree to all their demands.

Lerouge55

Usual Russian play book, no good faith from the Diplomats and Politicians in that country for decades.

Dedsnotdead

rjksn

OLDandBOLDfr

Of course it does. How is this even news?

flatline000

"We want peace talks, but only if our goals are achieved, why does no one want to hold peace talks"

TraditionalApricot60

If Russia wants peace all they have to do is  leave Ukraine and stop killing Ukrainians.  It’s not at all complicated.  They just don’t want peace. They want as much of Ukraine as the world will let them steal.

Orcacub

you wonder how putin and his croneys can manage the war through all the laughter at the lies they can get away with to stall the opposition.

aging_geek

Did Russia learn stalling and deflection of blame from Trump or was it the other way around? I'm confused

fooknprawn

What's with a traditional flight to peace talk's is amidst the conglomeracy that is reckoned in peace time talks.

StarTrekCoggingWork

I think Ukraine should start seriously discussing how much of Russia they are going to keep.

EveryAccount7729

That's okay.  Russia never wanted peace talk anyway.  They want whole Ukraine, not part.

macross1984

Remember Russia back when Trump got elected

"No one ever talked to us"

jakesonwu

After refusing to meet with Zelenskyy when he had the chance on relatively neutral ground? HA!

golosa_zovut_menya

And this is where Trump learned his tactics from

Objective-Name-811

You can do anything if you have no shame and no one is punishing you.

paperNine

RLewis8888

Everyone knows Ukraine is blowing up their own cities and firing rockets backwards to Russia just to make Putin look bad.

So Russia is Stalin?

I will see myself out.

Polar_Bear_1234

&gt;Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov saying the pace of negotiations hinges on Ukraine's position, the effectiveness of U.S. mediation, and battlefield developments.

In reality, the peace talks actually depend on Russia ceasing their invasion of Ukraine and withdrawing.

RealisticEntity

ProximatePenguin

Oh Jesus that fucking Biden again … when are we going to finally get him out of everything going on in the world?  It like he is some kind of a genius to let tRump win and play everyone from the shadows!!!

Silver_Elk_7953

cdev12399

Someone tell the chief taco that this is the longest fucking 24 hours I’ve ever experienced in my life

BareNakedSole

AdorableBowl7863

To be fair Trump has been a little busy tbh

rodgee

Russian delegation quotes:

"We don’t want war, but we’re ready to fight for a year, two, three—however long it takes. We fought Sweden for 21 years. How long are you ready to fight?"

"Maybe some of those sitting here at this table will lose more of their loved ones. Russia is prepared to fight forever.”

source:

- https://x.com/olliecarroll/status/1923357966880604303
- https://x.com/RobynDixon__/status/1923395655151550606

yikes

teddmagwell

"This could've been an email" moment between the two countries

samratvishaljain

ISTANBUL, Turkey (AP) — The first direct peace talks between Russia and Ukraine since the early weeks of Moscow’s 2022 invasion ended Friday after less than two hours, and a senior Ukrainian official said the Russian side introduced new “unacceptable demands.”

Before they adjourned, Kyiv and Moscow agreed to exchange 1,000 prisoners of war each, according to the heads of both delegations, in what would be their biggest such swap since the war began.

Both sides also discussed a ceasefire and a meeting between their heads of state, according to chief Ukrainian delegate Rustem Umerov.

Russian presidential aide Vladimir Medinsky, who headed Moscow’s delegation, said both sides agreed to provide each other with detailed ceasefire proposals and a meeting by their heads of state..

During the talks, a senior Ukrainian official said Russia introduced new “unacceptable demands” to withdraw Ukrainian forces from huge swaths of it’s own territory. The official spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to make official statements.

The demands had not been previously discussed, the official said.

He said the Ukrainian side reiterated it remained focused on achieving real progress — an immediate ceasefire and a pathway to substantive diplomacy, “just like the U.S., European partners, and other countries proposed,” the official added.

The two sides sat at a U-shaped table but remained far apart in their conditions for ending the war. U.S. President Donald Trump, who has pressed both Moscow and Kyiv for an end to the conflict, saying a meeting between himself and Russian President Vladimir Putin would happen “as soon as we can set it up.”

“I think it’s time for us to just do it,” Trump told reporters in Abu Dhabi as he wrapped up a trip to the Middle East.

VictorEmmanuelIV

Hey, longer than Russia not violating a ceasefire.

Thought Trump would have this settled on day one like he said..

The-cultured-swine39

Everyone knew the Russian delegation was a dog-and-pony show with no actual interest in negotiating, but Ukraine had to show up to avoid giving rage baiters easy talking points to latch onto.

DoggedStooge

Ukraine: Please leave our country

Russia: no

Ukraine : please we want to be a free independent country 

Russia: you will join USSR and be Russian 

Ukraine : no, we are Ukrainian and want to determine our future ourselves 

Russia: Ukraine demands are unreasonable

asexyshaytan

Russia is only ensuring their demographic demise by continuing this conflict. The only people left will be those too old to fight (if age ever mattered) and the criminals that survived to come home still acting like criminals and a hefty dose of ptsd.

LeadOnion

inbetween-genders

Why can't I get unhinged Trump on my side even once??!! Why does he ALWAYS have to be both a chaotic psycho AND do the wrong thing. Couldn't he, just this once, be a chaotic psycho and tell Russia that unless they come to terms with Ukraine we'll fucking lock down the airspace over Ukraine and increase weapons shipments?? Goddamnit.

giantrhino

"stop attacking us"
"Nyet"

*Meeting ends*

kombuchawow

I seem to recall Trump saying recently that if Putin rejects peace he was gonna back Ukraine "like you've never believed." Let's see it Donnie

Tacklinggnome87

Ukraine: “Are you going to stop invading our country?”.
Russia: “Nope”
Meeting adjourned

Logical_Frosting_277

It was bullshit anyway. I dont think the Ukrainians believed it but they need to work with it, to hopefully keep the US in the war.

Mrstrawberry209

Shawn_The_Sheep777

They fought Sweden 21 years, and lost less men than in Ukraine for 3 years.

L0gard

TYBTD

Ukraine: “Withdraw and go home.”
Russia: “No.”
Ukraine: “Get Fucked”

Dismissed.

Fun_Beat1578

Russia: "Surrender"

Ukraine: "No"

US: Shrug emoji, \*walks out\*

count023

Peace talks with the aggressors hell bent on spite and genocide is pointless.

Gloomy-Quality-1106

I can't believe how much Putin screwed himself with this war, he can't stop it without a serious concern of a recession and subsequent protests, I wonder when he gets taken out of power how much longer he would've lasted had he not reignited the war

ShinyStarSam

Anither solid source: "❗️The Russians demanded Ukraine withdraw entirely from 4 of its regions. After being refused by the Ukrainian delegation, they stood up and said, “Next time, it’ll be 5.”

prophecy555

Holy shit if you ever want to imagine hell just look at this table of old rich men discussing how much longer kids have to go killing each other for, for them, for no reason. (Obviously not the Ukrainian side)

Notallowedhe

I'm surprised it lasted that long. Fuck Russia

Kooky-Parfait-2706

Nice they could come to an agreement so fast.

RossCollinsRDT

William_Ballsucker

&gt; We don't want war

But... Russia started it. Unprovoked. And they slaughtered civilians. Unprovoked. 

&gt; We're willing to fight forever

*Why*?

Page8988

Kiwi_CunderThunt

Again to the surprise of fucking no one. The only surprising part was the fact it lasted more than 10 minutes.

IllSurprise3049

And this is a lesson to lads out there to not exchange a nuclear arsenal for a bread crumbles. No matter what USA promises you.

BetaStateGames

Ukraine: “Please leave”
Russia: “No, we want war with you and will fight for many more years if we have to…”
Ukraine: Well Fuck you I guess….

Meeting has concluded….

itsvoogle

ruzzia won't stop.  I get frustrated thinking that any peace plan where Ukraine has to surrender land is anything other than contentious.  Give ruzzia land now and they will return later to take more.  Bet on it.

Significant-Mud2572

Wait did trump brokered that one too? Another world record wow

Mutchmore

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