Public sentiment towards the potential resumption of India-U.S. trade negotiations is overwhelmingly negative, marked by profound distrust of former President Trump and concerns regarding Indian sovereignty. Many commenters express a desire for India to prioritize its national interests and consider alternative partnerships, particularly with BRICS nations, in light of perceived bullying from the U.S.

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Mo_h

As someone from the US, and who has to deal with Trump daily, here’s what will happen:

 - (He’s already done this, but) he’ll threaten to do something blatantly unreasonable 
 - realize it’s a poor idea
 - backpedal, claiming he “made a deal,” even though in reality, he just made baseless threats and needed an out.

I’m sorry you guys have to deal with him. He’s a shallow, small man.

CoquetteCoquyt

Economy_Inspector235

Huh, I just read that he asked EU to put 100% tariffs on India and China. Wtf is this guy.

bhola_batman

On the other hand, Peter Navarro (the architect of Trump’s tariff war) continues to single out India. Just a few hours ago, he claimed that the US doesn’t need ‘unfair trade’ with India, insisting that it is India that desperately needs access to the US market and American jobs, not the other way around. 

I only hope the news media and social media bots don’t start spinning this as some grand ‘victory’ for India already.

ErebusMalison

Glad we didn't cave to Trump's demands like some others (cough EU cough). Hopefully this is a step back to normalcy...

Just_Type_9587

Successful-Try-1986

It looks like the Government is nabbing protest posts on Reddit as it is mostly used by Gen Z

_Nocturnalsoul_

PersimmonNervous4077

tifa_cloud0

thunder1207

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chauhan1234567

I wonder if the right wingers who have said that US is an untrustworthy partner now and anti-India, and  that the US is working on regime change here and also caused it in our neighbouring countries, will be consistent with their position now

Unfair_Fact_8258

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While his minions are asking EU to put 100% tariffs on India.

BhalaManushya

No more Nobel Prize bs talk Mr. Pedopresident

resjudicata2

Ok_hahah

Recently in tariff on tyre imports from india are now 50%

Lullan_senpai

Zillion_Mixolydian

Neptuneskyguy

Trump always sees everything as a zero sum game- I.e. I win, you lose kind of situation. So to force nations into a disproportional trade deal that overwhelmingly favors the US that he can sell to his voter base. 

One of the big holdup in the trade deal is : agriculture and dairy.  Trump has no regard for India’s redlines on agriculture or dairy sectors, cannot care less for the developmental imperatives that form the fulcrum of India’s economic policies, and seeks New Delhi to commit to zero tariffs for American goods in exchange for high double-digit levy on Indian exports to the US. It is none of Trump’s concern, for instance, that India has zero appetite for genetically modified American agricultural crops, and zero tolerance for American dairy products fed on blood meal because a vast majority of Hindu Indians are vegetarians

hinterstoisser

Despite being one of the few pro US voices in Indian subreddits, deep down I always knew the US was not a truly reliable partner. Still, I hoped the relationship would improve and strengthen over the long term(because of common Chinese threat). But Trump has dragged it under the ocean for good. This damage feels irreversible.

Generations of Indian youths who will be future policymakers and politicians, will remember this betrayal. The trust deficit created now will shape how India approaches its foreign policy for decades to come.

This trade drama is just the surface. In my opinion, a lot has happened in the past 2–3 months, both publicly and behind the scenes, that has led to the current mess.

Guess India should improve ties with China for good instead of trying to mend ties with US. Democrats or Republicans there is no certainty who will backstab India in future.

AIM-120-AMRAAM

It appears the Indian negotiators were far too naive and optimistic, the American negotiators were far too greedy and in the end Trump nuked the negotiating table when he decided he wouldn't be getting the kind of announcement he wanted.

From various articles, the sequence of events that led to this seems to be:

1. In July, India offered to essentially meet the Americans halfway with immediate concessions on 40% of American industrial exports and gradually some consumer products. They also offered $25 billion of American oil purchases. With Trump announcing a 'big deal with India' they actually believed he was satisfied and would at least give them an interim trade deal.

2. On the American side, Trump and his advisors wanted nothing less than an announcement that India would open up most or all of its economy *and* pledge $350 billion or more(comparable to South Korea, Japan and the EU) of US purchases.

3. When it was clear that India wasn't going to offer that much Trump brought up the Russian oil import(which he previously didn't care about) to tighten the vice on India. The announcement on 25% tariffs is meant to go into effect immediately but the one on 50% is intentionally timed for 2 weeks in the future in order to pressure India to surrender.

This is reminding me of Trump's first attempt at a trade war, with China, when tariffs were going up to 100%, 200% and so on. He seems to have realised that India would be a much softer target for this kind of offensive.

Meanwhile, the indications are that the current 'truce' where tariffs on China are only at 30% will be extended, even though the US has far more reason to resent China on all fronts than India. Probably because of their leverage on rare earth minerals, their willingless to bribe Trump's cronies, and Trump's preference for dictators.

1-randomonium

I would agree with the article if this was between two professional negotiating teams.  
The problem is I doubt even the White house knows what tariff Trump will impose next.

India had recently signed trade deals with Australia and the UK and we are close to signing   
one with the EU. There were similar problems of India allowing access to agricultural products and dairy. There was no way we could agree to US demands when we said no to others (and our interlocutors understood our sensitivities). The deals with the UK and Australia were signed with give and take on both sides. 

The premise behind trade deals is that both sides seek to strengthen trade by removing bottlenecks, acting within WTO commitments and with compromise on both sides. A trade deal is not a mafia style shakedown. The Indian public was riled not just by Trump making repeated references to stopping the war, but hosting the Pak army chief (not the elected head of state) after the latter appeared at a state funeral of US &amp; UN designated terrorists and reiterating Pakistan's support for terror groups. He also referred to India being a dead economy, which is inaccurate when we are the 3rd largest in the world (in PPP) and the fastest growing in the G-20. 

I don't see any statement from Japan, South Korea or Vietnam where they have agreed to the terms Trump says the have. There is a similar lack of clarity over the terms of the EU-US deal.

Dean_46

Basically, Trump wanted India to kiss the ring and confirm to the world that they kissed the ring.

curiousstrider

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After five rounds of trade negotiations, Indian officials were so confident of securing a favourable deal with the United States that they even signalled to the media that tariffs could be capped at 15%.
Indian officials expected U.S. President Donald Trump to announce the deal himself weeks before the August 1 deadline. The announcement never came.

New Delhi is now left with the surprise imposition of a 25% tariff on Indian goods from Friday, along with unspecified penalties over oil imports from Russia, while Trump has closed larger deals with Japan and the EU, and even offered better terms to arch-rival Pakistan.
Interviews with four Indian government officials and two U.S. government officials revealed previously undisclosed details of the proposed deal and an exclusive account of how negotiations collapsed despite technical agreements on most issues.

The officials on both sides said a mix of political misjudgment, missed signals and bitterness broke down the deal between the world's biggest and fifth-largest economies, whose bilateral trade is worth over $190 billion.
The White House, the U.S. Trade Representative office, and India's Prime Minister's Office, along with the External Affairs and Commerce ministries, did not respond to emailed requests for comment.
India believed that after visits by Indian Trade Minister Piyush Goyal to Washington and U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance to Delhi, it had made a series of deal-clinching concessions.
New Delhi was offering zero tariffs on industrial goods that formed about 40% of U.S. exports to India, two Indian government officials told Reuters.

Despite domestic pressure, India would also gradually lower tariffs on U.S. cars and alcohol with quotas and accede to Washington's main demand of higher energy and defence imports from the U.S., the officials said.
"Most differences were resolved after the fifth round in Washington, raising hopes of a breakthrough," one of the officials said, adding negotiators believed the U.S. would accommodate India's reluctance on duty-free farm imports and dairy products from the U.S.
It was a miscalculation. Trump saw the issue differently and wanted more concessions.
"A lot of progress was made on many fronts in India talks, but there was never a deal that we felt good about," said one White House official.

"We never got to what amounted to a full deal - a deal that we were looking for."


OVER-CONFIDENCE AND MISCALCULATION


Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who visited Washington in February, agreed to target a deal by fall 2025, and more than double bilateral trade to $500 billion by 2030.
To bridge the $47 billion goods trade gap, India pledged to buy up to $25 billion in U.S. energy and boost defence imports.

But officials now admit India grew overconfident after Trump talked up a "big" imminent deal, taking it as a signal that a favourable agreement was in hand. New Delhi then hardened its stance, especially on agriculture and dairy, two highly sensitive areas for the Indian government.

"We are one of the fastest growing economies, and the U.S. can't ignore a market of 1.4 billion," one Indian official involved in the negotiations said in mid-July.

Negotiators even pushed for relief from the 10% average U.S. tariff announced in April, plus a rollback of steel, aluminium and auto duties.



Later, India scaled back expectations after the U.S. signed trade deals with key partners including Japan, and the European Union, hoping it could secure a similar 15% tariff rate with fewer concessions.

That was unacceptable to the White House. "Trump wanted a headline-grabbing announcement with broader market access, investments and large purchases," said a Washington-based source familiar with the talks.
An Indian official acknowledged New Delhi wasn't ready to match what others offered.

South Korea, for example, struck a deal just before Trump's August 1 deadline, securing a 15% rate instead of 25% by offering $350 billion in investments, higher energy imports, and concessions on rice and beef.

This range plot displays U.S. President Donald Trump's tariff rates or the most recent previously announced or threatened tariff rates for the U.S.'s top trading partners on Aug. 1, 2025.

This range plot displays U.S. President Donald Trump's tariff rates or the most recent previously announced or threatened tariff rates for the U.S.'s top trading partners on Aug. 1, 2025.


COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN

"At one point, both sides were very close to signing the deal," said Mark Linscott, a former U.S. Trade Representative who now works for a lobby group that is close to the discussions between the two nations.
"The missing component was a direct line of communication between President Trump and Prime Minister Modi."
A White House official strongly disputed this, noting other deals had been resolved without such intervention.
An Indian government official involved in the talks said Modi could not have called, fearing a one-sided conversation with Trump that could put him on the spot.

However, the other three Indian officials said Trump's repeated remarks about mediating the India-Pakistan conflict further strained negotiations and contributed to Modi not making a final call.

"Trump's remarks on Pakistan didn't go down well," one of them said. "Ideally, India should have acknowledged the U.S. role while making it clear the final call was ours."

A senior Indian government official blamed the collapse on poor judgment, saying top Indian advisers mishandled the process.

"We lacked the diplomatic support needed after the U.S. struck better deals with Vietnam, Indonesia, Japan and the EU," the official said.
"We're now in a crisis that could have been avoided."
Trump said on Tuesday he would increase the tariff on imports from India from the current rate of 25% "very substantially" over the next 24 hours and alleged that New Delhi's purchases of Russian oil were "fuelling the war" in Ukraine.
WAY FORWARD
Talks are ongoing, with a U.S. delegation expected in Delhi later this month and Indian government officials still believe the deal can be salvaged from here.
"It's still possible," one White House official said.
The Indian government is re-examining areas within the farm and dairy sectors where concessions can be made, the fourth official said. On Russian oil, India could reduce some purchases in favour of U.S. supplies if pricing is matched.
"It likely will require direct communication between the prime minister and the president," said Linscott.
"Pick up the phone. Right now, we are in a lose-lose. But there is real potential for a win-win trade deal."

I think it is a direct impact from the border skirmish earlier in May. The series of fights basically proves that India has no proper means to keep that subcontinent in order. Pakistan, indeed, is much inferior in military power, but it can pose significant threat and damage to India.

TBH, the capability of planning and execution shown by India in that air fight is very much impressive. I dare to say, except US, no NATO country can properly plan and execute an aerial raid with over 70 jet fighters in four to five fronts. But the loss is still unbelievable, and someone or something must be held accountable.

For India, they really don't think that is their fault since they have demonstrated their execution beautifully. PAF has some weapon systems from China, what could India do without F-35A and EA-18G? Nothing.

However, for US, they really cannot admit that China is getting edge on military equipment over NATO, otherwise the confidence within NATO will collapse. 

That is a deadlock for Modi and Trump. They both want the other side to admit something that is one stone away from political, even biological suicide, and of course, they cannot agree on any deals.

Glory4cod

Putting all eggs in one basket case for certain exports. India should be accelerating Free trade agreement with EU and start discussing one with Japan and Brazil and other major countries.

Local_Initiative_158

If this can be a 1991 one moment where we take the next big step for market reforms, not a bad thing 

I just pray we navigate this well. Balance long and short term views

Unfortunately for India, the world and especially US is very wary of a “next China”. So we won’t ever get the same easy global environment

Latter-Yam-2115

Honestly, this is good for India in the long run. This will give us the opportunity to diversify our trade partners. The longer the US drags its feet, the higher inflation climbs over there and the more unpopular Trump becomes. Time is on our side.

digitburyit

We move on - America in self destruct mode as it lost hope after Obama

India hit self destruct mode in 2014

But India has more chances of course correction as its electoral system gives a chance for course correction unlike USA

USA has become a wall street uniparty with no hope of course correction

The destruction of its democracy is happening at a pace that won’t be corrected

Indians have more fight left in them than Americans 

Life_Machine_9694

So much for Modi’s ‘Vishwaguru’ diplomacy. Ten years of chest-thumping foreign policy has left India isolated - tariffs at record highs, trade talks collapsing, and global partners openly punishing us for reckless Russian oil deals. Ordinary Indians will pay higher prices while BJP continues with photo-ops and jumlas.

#More like Bishwa Gobar

TheIndianRevolution2

MAGA stands for “Make Asia Great Again”

Livid_Test_5212

He did three world tours in our taxes payers provided 8000 crore planes, all these fake handshakes and fake smiles and still guess how many people lobbying for this fraud vote chor Modi? 0 nada.

Travel__Agent007

Modiji won Asia Cup before Indian Cricket Team wins it soon 

AnkyCum96

Curious. Do all you Western/American haters (really jealous people) think this is a big deal?  Because you post like you suddenly got access to the penthouse, when you're still living in the slums.  

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