Public sentiment regarding the TikTok ownership change is predominantly negative, with skepticism about the deal and worries over governmental control and censorship. This has fostered a deep divide in opinions concerning Trump's leadership and the deal's repercussions.

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Oracle

So, the US will get one app, the rest of the world a different one? Seems like there will be a lot more to unpack from that kinda throw away line...

m00nh34d

Tiktok are getting paid to exit the US market, while Oracle gets to use their name to set up a new app that nobody will use

Art of the deal

cafuvola

Soooo... US is getting a dedicated social media app controller by the government (at least partially). Where have I seen that...

Also, Oracle 🤮

AkodoRyu

So TikTok in the US will be fully controlled by Trump allies.

JessumB

&gt; including a US gov member


Lol. So a propaganda minister just like companies in Gyna?


US is so cooked 

Cold_Specialist_3656

Ellison and his kids already bought CBS and Paramount. They're in the process of buying CNN and Warner Bros. Now Tik Tok. All or our media will be controlled by a few people.

Shit_Bird33

I guess TikTok is now US state controlled communication and media. They really are copying China.

Prematurid

ARobertNotABob

Oracle’s share price boomed recently. 

Feels a smidge like insider trading. 

hraun

A US gov member??? Isn’t this just as bad, if not worse, than the screaming about China’s govt having access to user data?

Sea-Flow-3437

This is going to fail because of the new app requirement.

Lyion

lol  new app.  there goes the user base and value

Angryceo

There's no way users switch over. These influencers with millions of followers are going to revolt when they have to start over.

oakfan05

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shinyquagsire23

Propaganda machine managed by friends of the regime.

DZello

theoneandonlypatriot

Weren't they warning us not to switch to Red Note when the ban was originally thought to happen because it was *exactly* like the app they plan for us to switch to now? A government controlled and fed social media app?

originalcrisp

Haha the US is fucked. 

Why would anyone from the government be assigned to the board of a social media app?

I can’t believe Republicans like to bend over and enjoy being fucked in the arse out of all of their privacy and willingly help along all the propaganda to come.

Naive_Confidence7297

GREAT time to just delete the old app and never download the new one.

jpiro

Remember when the TikTok ban was first announced way back when the concern was that a foreign government, the CCP, was using it to collect data on US citizens?


We have come to a full circle. Instead of the CCP, it’s gonna be the US government that will use it to collect data and spy on its own citizens lol.

PanzerKomadant

So TikTok will be controlled by The Felon and his fascist regime!

CancelOk9776

So the 136 million US users will have their own app to feed them GOP propaganda and MAGA videos? How long before there is another non-us app that all the people younger than 40 migrate to, 6 months? A year? I will wager the US Tik Tok will be a failure by 2028.  Everything Trump touches dies.

Raven_Photography

For a conservative administration, I am seeing a lot of federal government involved in everything these days. Is this party even sure what they stand for anymore?

Fridaykevin

legendz411

This free market capitalism is really confusing.

Qubed

touuuuhhhny

The best thing Americans can all do with this is wait for the sale, then don’t use it.

creggor

Guys, this is what China does

Congrats r/Conservative!!

Matt_Foley_Motivates

Perfect mouthpiece to spread neonazi propaganda. The "cool kids" will leave for whatever app that replaces tiktok, and the current regime's target audience (the "follower" types who are easily manipulated and not socially connected enough to move to the new cool spot) will be ripe for the brainwashing.

SuperSecretAgentMan

derpholeloophole

Jdonn82

This will be used as a propaganda tool for Trump

ziggyjoe2

After the Chinese great firewall, I'm afraid we will soon see an American Greater firewall come true.

danque

This explains the jump in oracle stock. Sounds like insider trading?

korodic

Kinda explains why oracle popped last week?

AdviceNotAskedFor

For any US users worrying about losing TikTok after this, just get a vpn and log in from a less oppressive country.

whelmed-and-gruntled

chester-12

So we will never have the same TikTok as people outside of the US and will have an entirely different algorithm pushed by cronies of trump. Cool cool cool cool.  So they can stomp out dissent and push their agenda. And people will be too stupid to delete it.

Eternium_or_bust

Hard pass. Instant delete account and app.

jairumaximus

We’re about to be unseen levels of misogyny and racism…

MisuCake

So that explains some of the oracle jump.  those in the know already jumped on

cookus

gtrocks555

“Will require users to shift to a new app”

Oh so TikTok is dead dead then? Getting people to migrate to new apps is as easy as herding cats in a rain storm.

MYO716

Mr_Hassel

Ahhhhh! THATS why Congres people have been loading up on Oracle. Boy are they expert legal/tech/analysis experts

lostsailorlivefree

Does this mean that TikTok users in the US will be isolated from the global community, having a separate app like the Chinese version (Douyin)?

vsratoslav

Da_Stable_Genius

I, for one, find this delightful news: Oracle is where technology goes to die.

DaGoodBoy

Mark my words: this will go down as one of the biggest wastes of money in history

Sativatoshi

So now we know why Oracle did a sudden spike. Insider fucking trading.

Affectionate-Listen6

So in short it will just be another media tool used to solely support trump.

AffectionateAd7980

How many stocks did Oracle just gift to Trump and his cronies?

Cultural_Hamster_362

More, not really, but different.  Now the Chinese government censors people and topics we don't know about or care about.  Put someone else in charge and that censorship will shift to what is important to them.  If you think that social media hasn't been heavily manipulated since it was invented it is time to wake up.

Eliminate-DaBots

It's a huge deal and the negotiations are still happening. But with US investors potentially owning it, it's supposed to prevent a foreign government from having a say. That being said, the new investors could have their own agendas, but they'd be subject to US laws and public scrutiny. The real sticking point is still the algorithm, which is the secret sauce that makes the app so addictive. China is being super protective of it, and a lot of folks in the US want to make sure the new American owners have full control over it, so it can't be used to push a foreign agenda. It's a messy situation, but the goal is to make it safer for us.

thickstackedbby

It depends on whose censorship you're worried about. It absolutely makes it less susceptible to Chinese censorship, but makes it way the hell more susceptible to American Trumpist censorship.

BrainOnBlue

nope... investors don't care about the content of the platform... they just care that it generate money

Simple_Emotion_3152

aaronite

It’s literally the reason Trump illegally delayed the sale, so he could push through a sale to his allies. They’ve seen how effective Musk’s control of Twitter has ended up

PoopMobile9000

1st..news corporations, then celebrities, and individuals  whom disagree, and dont forget certain federal agencies just shut down.


Social media is next. R/rants will become happy happy joy.

Primary-Basket3416

DrakeoftheWesternSea

Nah, tiktok here in canada is still the same even with Tiktok Canada having a an offcie and datacenter here. Although it seems the USA was cut off from the rest of the world from the january temp ban until late in august, i know that Tiktok is under a de jure nationwide ban from Biden. So it will just continue to string along, but the diffrence of american tiktok from the rest of the world is pretty stark.

Cautious_Cancel9282

It will go the way of everything American. Big red letters saying "freedom" and "number 1" while it strips away every freedom and slips down the rankings. We don't make things better, we just make it illegal to point out that they are getting worse.

phantom_gain

&gt; Scott Bessent said the deal was coming

LOL. 

&gt; Li Chenggang, the top Chinese trade negotiator, confirmed later on Monday that two sides had reached a basic framework consensus on resolving issues related to TikTok through cooperation, reducing investment barriers and promoting trade

oh, yeah, definitely the two sides are absolutely on the same page with a firm, detailed agreement and structure that will preserve TikTok and satisfy US desires to own/control/regulate it.

sickofthisshit

Some key details:

&gt;Speaking after emerging from negotiations with Chinese officials, Scott Bessent said the deal was coming but declined to reveal the commercial terms.
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&gt;“We have a framework for a TikTok deal,” the treasury secretary told reporters after coming out of high-level talks in Madrid. “We’re not going to talk about the commercial terms of the deal. It’s between two private parties, but the commercial terms have been agreed upon.” Bessent added that the Chinese team had made “aggressive asks” during negotiations, but didn’t explain what they were.
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&gt;Li Chenggang, the top Chinese trade negotiator, confirmed later on Monday that two sides had reached a basic framework consensus on resolving issues related to TikTok through cooperation, reducing investment barriers and promoting trade. Li said friction between the two economic giants was normal, but warned Washington against continued “suppression” of Chinese companies.
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&gt;“We would like to stress that the outcomes of the trade and economic consultations are hard won, and the US side should not, on the one hand, ask China to accommodate its concerns, whilst at the same time continue to suppress Chinese companies,” Li said in Madrid.
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&gt;The framework agreement is a breakthrough in the long-running dispute over TikTok’s ownership, which has raised national security concerns in Washington over the app’s Chinese parent company ByteDance. In April 2024, Joe Biden signed legislation that gave ByteDance nine months to sell the platform to a US-approved buyer or face a total ban – a deadline that Donald Trump has repeatedly extended.
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&gt;Washington’s security concerns center on fears that Beijing could manipulate the massively popular platform to spy on Americans or influence public opinion. Christopher Wray, the former FBI director, warned senators that China’s national security laws could compel ByteDance to hand over user data or suppress content, and the department of justice last year said TikTok had gathered the sensitive data of American users based off gun control, abortion and religion through its use of Lark, a workplace communication platform similar to Slack or Microsoft Teams, according to court documents.
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&gt;Bessent said final details would be settled when Trump speaks with Xi Jinping, China’s president, on Friday. Trump hinted that the deal was in the making while all sides were still at the table, posting on Truth Social that “A deal was also reached on a ‘certain’ company that young people in our Country very much want to save. They will be very happy!”
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&gt;Greer confirmed that the agreement was now awaiting approval from both leaders.

With this administration, recent history shows that a deal in principle is anything but a done deal. Given this uncertainty along with other recent events involving foreign-headquartered tech companies, it's difficult to see how any company would view investing in the US as a safe bet for the foreseeable future.

Hrmbee

“We don’t want the Chinese to spy on Americans. We prefer to do it ourselves.”

5aur1an

Sidwill

Hopefully everyone will abandon it and move to a clone of the site.

samjohnson2222

It is a national threat, consider there is a very different nation in their minds.

popofthedead

It's still quite funny to me that people are sitting there with a straight face, pretending that the app is some sort of surveillance network &amp; national security threat.

Professor0fLogic

&gt;
&gt;## "We have a deal on TikTok ... We have a group of very big companies that want to buy it."
&gt;_— Donald Trump at a White House briefing announcing the agreement between the U.S. and China to keep TikTok operating in the U.S._
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newswall-org

Key Facts: TikTok to Remain US-Controlled Amid Ownership Deal
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- An agreement between the US and China ensures TikTok will continue operating under American ownership in the United States.
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- ByteDance will retain a 19.9% stake while a consortium of US investors will hold the majority ownership.
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- The deal is expected to finalize within 30 to 45 days with a board dominated by American members.
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- Security concerns are addressed in the agreement, which may require approval from the Republican-controlled US Congress.

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- Reuters [(Grade: A)](https://www.newswall.org/w/reuters.com/rating): [US, Chinese officials to launch talks in Spain on trade irritants, TikTok deadline](https://www.reuters.com/world/china/us-chinese-officials-launch-talks-spain-trade-irritants-tiktok-deadline-2025-09-14/)
- CNN.com [(Grade: C+)](https://www.newswall.org/w/cnn.com/rating): [We now know who the new owners of TikTok will be - if Trump gets his deal done with Xi](https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/16/tech/tiktok-ban-extension-trump?Date=20250917&amp;Profile=CNN&amp;utm_content=1758069457&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_source=facebook,linkedin)
- Ars Technica [(Grade: B)](https://www.newswall.org/w/arstechnica.com/rating): [“China keeps the algorithm”: Critics attack Trump’s TikTok deal](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/09/china-keeps-the-algorithm-critics-attack-trumps-tiktok-deal/)
- NBC News [(Grade: B)](https://www.newswall.org/w/nbcnews.com/rating): [Trump extends TikTok shutdown deadline again after reaching framework deal with China](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/trump-extends-tiktok-shutdown-deadline-reaching-framework-deal-china-rcna231746)
- DW-TV [(Grade: B+)](https://www.newswall.org/w/dw.com/rating): [US, China kick off talks on trade, TikTok, in Madrid meeting](https://www.dw.com/en/us-china-kick-off-talks-on-trade-tiktok-in-madrid-meeting/a-73988012)
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