Public opinion on the India Tejas Fighter Jet deal is largely negative, with major concerns regarding production delays, inefficiencies at HAL, and the overall capability of the aircraft. Many perceive the investments as wasteful, questioning whether the Tejas program truly enhances India's defense capabilities or serves merely as a political gesture towards military advancement. Some voices support the need for a robust domestic defense industry, but doubts about technological adequacy persist.

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My arguments against the procurement of Tejas is this:


1. Familiarity and maintenance: The engine, gun and armaments are familiar to RMAF personnel, as those parts are present in F/A-18 C/D Hornets we use. And I suspect avionics too.




2. Combat proven: Well, F/A-50(or TA-50) have already been on combat since 2017, albeit ground attack missions in Marawi. Tejas are still ongoing trial(and rejected) by the Indian Navy by that time a year before that for being too heavy.




3. Radar: While both are using ELTAs AESA radars currently, both are offering their homegrown versions. However F/A-50 won in this part because the aircraft could be fitted with Northrop Grumman and Raytheon AESA radars. Besides, Korea have their homegrown semiconductors from Samsung. India had to rely on foreign imports for parts, and that ain't gonna be cheap either.



EDIT: Related to the armaments, HAL Tejas uses Russian(not viable at this point) and Israeli(political suicide) armaments, while KAI F/A-50 Block 20 currently uses US-made armaments, which we have access to. IDK other NATO armaments could fit though.

EdGee89

LIMA is nearing, so all contender will hype up their presence.

atreyudevil

please dont buy anything india made

they are famous for over promising and under delivering.

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&gt; India's state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HIAE.NS) is in talks with at least four countries to sell its light-combat aircraft, though it faces an uphill battle to win the contract in Malaysia...for an order of around 16 planes.
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&gt; [HAL Chairman and Managing Director C B Ananthakrishnan] said in Malaysia there had been a "slight setback" amid stiff competition with a Korean rival.
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&gt; "We have not received anything in black and white, but we are hearing that Koreans will get the order," Ananthakrishnan said. "Notwithstanding that, still we are making out attempts to push through our product."



THANK FUCK I LOVE T-50 ALL MY HOMIIES LOVE T-50

getrektnolan

It's only a setback for the company, not Malaysia's national security. Now, if there's anything that would make me proud of my country it would be a successful fighter jet program developed by Malaysia 🇲🇾

TehOLimauIce

Hear me out. The tejas Mk1a isnt that bad. Considering we could squeeze a maintenance deal for our su30. I also remembered them saying they would also sell their upcoming 5th gen and tejas mk2 to malaysia if we bought the mk1a. We could also get their brahmos missle and stuff.

Admirable_Usual_7593

But Tejas movie said we have everything....

beard__hunter

People take it as insult of armed forces but we need to dismantle HAL, NAL, DRDO all of these defense research agencies

They are full of incompetent, arrogant people who are holding this country back. Any 'achievement' they have to speak of is too late and only comes after the technology is commoditized. Every product they manage to develop is technologically behind commercially available options.

If you ever visit NAL or HAL campus in bangalore, you will realize that the people are treating it as a retirement adobe. They are just living a relaxed stress free life at taxpayer's cost.

Go attend this year's Aero india summit and observe for yourself the pathetic work all these govt. agencies are doing. 

10 years ago in aero india, one agency was displaying a "new mobile platform for electronic warfare". It was just a telescopic antenna with some microwave transmitters mounted on a SUV. your neighborhood mobile tower has more EW capabilities than their 'platform'. OTOH, an israeli company had a display of Iron dome which is state of the art even today forget a decade ago. embarassing stuff as Indians.

idlysambardip

HAL is one of the laziest PSU. One of my uncle's used to work there. Hardly worked 4 hours a day. Need to sell the assembly line to tata or motabhai

Sufficient_Ad991

Through [Project Udbhav](https://pib.gov.in/PressReleaseIframePage.aspx?PRID=1969684), IAF will soon be flying Jetaayus at mach 500. Have faith, bhrata, have faith.

tech-writer

This was in paper for 10 years and now air chief says this 

With upcoming budget the allocation will go to reliance or Ambani as contract 

Slowly HAL will be killed from strategic work

roohnair

Same old dialogue but it fits here pretty well: "Jab vote mandir ke lie dia tha to 6th gen fighter jet thodi milega."

anzalkhan619

Interesting 

“Partly due to delays in jet engine supply from US”

And then they wonder why we do not stop trading with Russia

prtk297

santy_dev_null

If we need to progress like USA / China in technology we need to make govt sector companies accountable (HAL &amp; others).
People are paying taxes, we know can't expect good AQI, hospitals from Any Govt, but we expect these govt sector should work hard don't disappoint

See how ISRO took accountability and now even if there mission fails, nation is with them.

First, govt should not have any reservation in this sector, and allow field like bio tech, to be introduce for future innovation in defence.

Secondly, they have to be worked like private sector, people who are not good need to leave.

Suspicious_Cat_4219

slowwolfcat

https://preview.redd.it/mwee39gfszbe1.jpeg?width=1290&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=783c7ce00acfc22d5b0bb22c29ea92393bf27a0e

Who needs tejas when you got lasers! chill guys!

unless we bring in private players and let em fight it out

AppointmentIcy1189

The thing is military does not accept sub par things in large quantity and want small number of good things. 
And govt does not have budget to keep afloat both things

Massive_Technician98

Wait little more Saaaaaar .
Just another 24 years . Needs to fix plane windows wiper .
Jaihind 🇮🇳

707yr

1-randomonium

Waiting for 15 years!

Perhaps the AeroEngineers are waiting for AI/Gpt to fix it for them /s

desi_guy11

CannedBullet

Superpower by 2020, y'all forgot that.

That's how. Now show bobs, OP.

I need someone to summarize why the Tejas is mockable. 

Because all I got is that it's an "indigenous" project with 50% foreign made parts including the engines, which is pretty damn hilarious.

lol at advanced

It’s a decent 4th Gen but it’s more important for India who’s trying to build a domestic aerospace industry so good for them.

Frosh_4

The Tejas isn't even that advanced, it's 3.5 gen at best.

At least it isn't a deathtrap like the Bisons.

Beneficial_Policy_

How does the Indians feel about this plane?

KebabG

This is foolish order when world is moving from 5-6 gen we are now investing in 4.5gen (at best) this money should have been used wisely.

Dependent_Ad2231

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India has finalized a ₹62,370 crore contract for the purchase of 97 Tejas Mk1A fighter jets to bolster its defense capabilities.

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