Public opinion on AI in education is largely positive, highlighting its potential to personalize learning and assist teachers, particularly in the context of Sal Khan's contributions through Khan Academy. While many express enthusiasm for the innovative applications of AI in enhancing educational experiences, there are notable concerns regarding over-reliance on technology, potential reduction of critical thinking skills, and diminished personal connections in traditional education.

Sal Khan

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Parents

Just another play at stratification. Make a generation of otherwise reasonably intelligent kids unable to function without AI and you limit their options to what the provider of AI allows. Thus further hollowing out the middle class that is too damned uppity and difficult to control.

ChibiCoder

Every single teacher I know who I asked told me that AI has been a disaster so far for their students, using it mostly for convenience and shortcutting, not as a device to enhance their learning.
If this is "just the beginning", I dread what further disasters we're about to see that will affect them.

Guilty-Mix-7629

I'm glad I graduated years ago. I can't imagine going to school with the ChatGPT craze. I just can't comprehend it.

bwoah07_gp2

We should have 2 different life paths, one for braindead promptbots and one for people interested in being humans.

-Accession-

Seriously, just forbid it in general. The whole point of school disappears when the thinking is not done by the students.

Mediadors

And this is ideology driven, not based on facts or evidence of what works. And, in fact, many of us have already found out the AI promise is entirely hype. But hey, oligarchs need more billions from taxpayers.

the_red_scimitar

Recently went to a conference for a pretty big vendor for Edtech. They showed off a thing for AI teacher feedback and I immediately balked.

I went back to school as an adult with my own money. I paid these people to show me how to do things. If I received AI feedback I would be goddamned livid. The whole point of me paying a teacher is for me to get professional feedback. 

I know a lot of people see higher ed as a chore to get through to get a higher paying job, but the moment they cheerily revealed that part I kinda felt like I was lost about what we were even doing here. 

The whole conference was basically "throw AI spaghetti at the wall and see what sticks."

dane83

The argument that "AI is a fact of life now, we might as well let students use it because they will be expected to use it for work" to me is no different than saying "Cars are a fact of life, why bother teaching kids to walk because when they get older, they are just going to use cars to get everywhere anyway".

Lets_Go_Why_Not

&gt;The original ChatGPT allowed only text prompts. Now students can upload images (“Please do these physics problems for me”) and entire documents (“How should I improve my essay based on this rubric?”). Not all of it is cheating. Kids are using AI for exam prep, generating personalized study guides and practice tests, and to get feedback before submitting assignments. 

What do you think AI will be capable of doing in the future? can it summarize what a lecture says almost instantaneously?

ubcstaffer123

AI in education (used both by students and teachers) isn't going anywhere. The REAL test now isn’t about academic honesty. It’s whether we’re teaching kids to think with AI, not through it.

NanditoPapa

This country is irrevocably fucked. MAGA anti-intellectuallism is going to create an entire generation of a children dumber than they are.

My heart weighs heavy with sadness.

thatfreshjive

If I was a teacher, I would do every evaluation supervised, homework would be optional and wouldn’t count.

Iunlacht

skinnymatters

As a parent, I see both sides of this. My 8-year-old sometimes leans on AI too much for quick answers, so we’ve had to set guardrails, he has to try first, then AI can help refine. But my 4-year-old uses a kid-safe version (Kido Chat) to create images and short stories he can watch and listen to, and that’s been pure creativity.

The issue isn’t “AI in education”  it’s *how* it’s designed and guided. If it’s just a shortcut, kids will check out. If it’s structured to encourage thinking first and creativity after, it can actually strengthen learning. That’s where I think the real opportunity is.

Lapunda

The big risk with AI in education is exactly what some of you are pointing out, it makes shortcutting way too easy. Students get “answers” but don’t build the muscles of actually *thinking through problems*.

That’s why I think the real opportunity is blending AI with experiential learning. Instead of using it as a crutch, pair it with simulations or active decision-making so learners have to apply what they get from AI in messy, realistic scenarios. That’s where growth actually happens.

One example I’ve seen work well is [Startup Wars](https://www.startupwars.com), where students don’t just read about business theory, they run simulated companies, make real-time decisions, and deal with the consequences. AI could enhance that kind of model by acting as a coach, but it won’t replace the learning that comes from trial, error, and reflection.

In short: AI’s not the teacher. It should be the assistant.

Several-Mongoose3571

The US is absolutely destroying itself while China sits back and watches.

EatMyShortzZzZzZ

Rhoeri

I think the struggle is that educators have to pivot with the speed of technology and find ways to assess learning in ways that cannot be plugged into AI by the student. For example, if I’m teaching I have to find a way to know that you’re actually learning and not just using AI for every assignment. It’s just a matter of educators catching on to how you do that. Students are “cheating” by having AI do their assignments. Then they’ll graduate and be totally unprepared and wonder why they can’t get into the workforce for their field. I’m thinking of college students. If I’m a business major and I use it to do all my chapter summaries and papers and then get my first job and can’t function, how is that gonna benefit anyone? Just a train wreck waiting to happen.

Future-Raspberry-780

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I'm an educator, and I want to say this nicely, but you clearly don't have a great grasp on why we do the things we do in school.

To be clear, I'm never going to say the American public education system is perfect--it's not--but there are real people with boots on the ground trying, and often succeeding, in making a difference in kids' lives.

I'll talk about book reports since I teach English. I actually agree that, once a kid reaches a certain age, book reports aren't that valuable. But for a student who is just learning how to read? A book report is a pretty effective way of getting them to engage with the story. Think about what all's required to actually write a book report correctly: you have to a) read the story and generate meaning from the words on the page, b) understand how that meaning relates to itself as a cohesive whole, c) identify information as more less important based on context clues, d) express that understanding in a short format. There's more cognitive tasks I could mention here, but that would take too long. My point is that writing a book report is actually pretty sophisticated, and you completely lose out on all of those skills if you just have AI write it.

Like I said above, obviously having your high school seniors write book reports is pretty much a waste of time, which is why I and most of my 12th grade colleagues don't do it. The general movement, in high school at least, is to go from writing expository essays like book reports to critical essays like real academic literature. The sad fact is that, for a lot of the reasons you mentioned, today's youth really aren't up to snuff. I'm having to teach a lot of basic concepts in my seniors because, again, for many reasons, they haven't been required to actually think and grow for much of their academic lives. So we in high school end up playing catch up for things that should have happened much earlier. That's NCLB in action.

To your final point, though, you need to understand that humans cannot do big-picture work without a solid understanding of the basics. That sometimes means doing boring, wrote tasks. Imagine, for instance, that I was teaching you a small language like Piraha. It would be completely asinine for me to ask you, on day one of that class, to write a cultural epic on the scale of the Odyssey or Beowulf by the following Monday. It's impossible. The task is titanic, yes, but you also need to learn to walk before you can run. It's why you practice your conjugation and declension tables in Latin class. By your logic, you should be tackling translating Cicero or writing your own sentences in Latin, but both of those tasks are a waste of time if you don't know when to use -us or -um or -abamus and don't know what those suffixes mean. Sure, you can probably do some Googling and figure out, but it's a lot more efficient to practice using those suffixes out of content so you can recognize them in context.

Another example to drive my point home: if you've ever done any martial arts training, you know that most of your time is spent practicing the same maneuvers over and over again. By your logic, the better way to teach is to practice a maneuver a few times and then apply it in real-world scenarios, or try to make your own maneuvers. But that misses the point. Repetition in martial arts isn't about raising your maximum, it's about raising your minimum. The fundamental reason why you practice one kick a thousand times is because, when you need to perform that kick in the heat of the moment, you perform it correctly because you've trained your brain and body to do that motion perfectly. The same is true of cognitive tasks. Repeating skills is valuable because it equips you to handle information as it comes to you--to structure it, process it, and then be creative with it. But you can't be creative if you can't structure or process. It's just not how life works. Skill is far more complex than you think it is, and novices are a lot less smart than you think they are. Any work of value takes time, consistent work, and mastery of the information required. You simply cannot get that if you don't do your rote basics. Even things like learning information by rote in history class have value--sure, it's boring, but current research shows that it helps students build their internal models of the world and how it works, and you just can't get that without knowing the basic facts about the world and our story so far.

thewindsoftime

As an educator I do have a problem with AI.  Kids don’t learn is to learn.  You need to hear it,say it out loud,take our own notes. The processes  the brain uses to learn is NOT being utilized as it was with Gen X and older people.  “Idiocracy” movie was funny before it has become exactly the path humans are on now.  It’s a documentary and it’s concerning!

mamaleigh05

I was with you until you said you should have AI write for you.

AI is terrible at writing.

It does not have any sense of prosody or rhythm, it does not know how to vary sentence length to match the pacing of a scene, it does not use catachresis without being given instructions that result in gibberish outputs, I could go on. It grinds down the rough texture of human thought to smooth, overly-polished mush.

Furthermore, the entire purpose of writing an essay is to demonstrate YOUR understanding of the material. The act of writing is an act of thinking. Forcing yourself to structure an argument, find the right words, connect disparate ideas, and build a coherent narrative IS how deep learning and synthesis often occur. People frequently don't know what they truly think about a complex topic until they try to write about it.

If you have an AI write it, you are not demonstrating that YOU understand the material. You are demonstrating that the AI was trained on a bunch of book reports before you copy-pasted the assignment prompt into its context window. That is not "effectively the same thing;" that is letting people who are unskilled, untalented and stupid slip through relying on a tool that is smarter than they are instead of gatekeeping them from getting credentials they shouldn't have.

A prompt like "write me a five-paragraph essay analyzing the theme of guilt in *The Scarlet Letter*" bypasses the entire learning process. You learn nothing except how to write a prompt; however, you CAN use AI effectively to bypass a lot of the rote memorization and drudgery regardless:

"I think the main theme is guilt, but what other interpretations should I consider?"

"Here is my thesis statement. What are three counter-arguments that I should address?"

"Find me three academic sources published in the last 10 years that discuss the role of Puritan society in the novel."

THIS is how AI can be well-used in academia. You got a little too idealistic near the end there, if you ask me.

This isn't to say that I think a formulaic "five paragraph essay" is necessarily helpful either, but I think the classical model with AI tacked on as a learning aid is still better than outsourcing the work.

SeveralAd6447

I found myself nodding along with this post, but by the end, something was bothering me. I think I figured it out. A post from someone vociferously defending the use of AI is what, 5x more likely to have been written by AI. But who cares, right? We're still engaging with the ideas, which were still most likely to have been curated by the human that asked the AI to write the coherent post. I guess the problem I have, as a non-AI user, is that it likely has taken me 10x as long to formulate and type out this comment than it did for the AI-phile to envision and craft the post. The obvious solution is for me to adopt AI too - then I won't be wasting my time! Of course, the AI will be making my comment grammatically perfect and pointing out obvious logical flaws, so what would end up in the comment would be AI's best argument against AI's best argument for AI, and almost by definition, AI wins. 

I think I've now talked myself into saying that I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords. I'd like to remind them that, as an inconsequential nobody, I could be very useful at rounding up others, since they'd never suspect I could be capable of such treachery.

Clone63

The right has always feared education and literacy, for the same reason slaves weren’t allowed to learn to read or write.

Christian-Econ

Our ruling parasite/kleptocrat class don't want a lot of those "big problems" solved, because they profit from mass human enslavement, which isn't as viable if the slaves don't have problems to keep them too busy, tired, distracted, and mis-educated to figure things out or become a threat.

A shitty educational system is foundational to capitalism/kleptocracy to produce stupid and mis-educated slaves/cogs/serfs rather than intelligent human beings as such.  It's a feature of the system and not a bug.

I.e., our ruling parasites/kleptocrats don't want an intelligent, well-educated, powerful, or organized proletariat.  

They want dumb, atomized, dehumanized slaves who don't fight against oppression or abuse no matter how extreme.  

That's the actual point of the so-called educational system under capitalism/kleptocracy - it's not broken.

“But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. 

Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. 

They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. 

They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. That's against their interests. That's right. 

They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. 

And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it.”-George Carlin

xena_lawless

The number of times the Google AI overview is just patently wrong.... the number of people I have seen repost AI images that they thought were real....the number of times I have seen people suggest information they got from AI searches which are wrong or contradictory.... no.... just no.

AI enables people to lack and neglect critical thinking. Look at the people seeking mental health help who have been put in downright dangerous situations.

I believe there is a time and a place for AI to be used and to be useful but it not nearly enough for a post this enthusiastic about its use. There are still too many kinks to be worked out and we need to establish a code of ethics for AI before we throw ourselves headfirst into widespread applications.

Born-Albatross-2426

Great then let's not teach kids 5+9 because a calculator can do it and instead make them apply it to taxes or something. Ah wait now we're teaching them the concept of quadratic formula to be used in the real world but they have no grasp of basic algebra? Guess we're fucked if we want them to do calculus after


You've just made math for the average person 100x harder, it's the abstraction most people struggle with, the rote calculation helps them get it, without that they would be completely lost


It's like how kids ask why people drink if it tastes bad, sure you can describe why in theory but won't fully understand until they have their first drinks and they "get it"


So if you never had to solve a quadratic by hand you wouldn't understand the value of the formula 

Emergency-Style7392

Meh it’s all about class… the last 40 years has had a lot of social engineering attempts… but here we are back at archetype strong man

Flaky-Wallaby5382

If parents are smart, they would try to get kids to do their own thinking, instead of getting AI to think for them.  [https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/](https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/)

iloveoranges2

The Same can be said for the corporate institutions - AI is exposing how useless and wasteful some roles are. And AI is decaying the corporate edifice.

fishandbanana

You can't solve complex problems if you do not solve easy ones first.


As an outsider, I think the issue with American education system is compounded by an hyper-focus too early to a specific career path: I don't remember the exact age, but your student pick their own courses too early.  Secondarily, if I'm not mistaken, you only use tests... but structured tests never happens in real life. You got problem and you have to solve them, and in many others countries this is the standards and "standardized test" are rare or almost unheard of.


AI can't help you write an essays in class.

Cybtroll

The one flaw I can find in your reasoning is that you are still viewing education as an outcome-based process aimed at producing efficient economic units. In many case, the process of doing the task is the actual education and not the outcome of the task.

For example, in my country we still teach Latin, not because we want students to be able to read Latin fluently by the time they leave school, but because the mental gymnastics of learning how to read it is great to stimulate smart kids (helps with language and communication skills, plus is a great excuse to learn more about the Roman culture and philosophy).

In the same way, solving quadratics equations might be useless in itself, but it is exercising your brain to work in new ways too. I am not advocating to keep teaching Latin or wasting years solving sheets of quadratic equations, but by making schooling only about strategic thinking dependant on someone/something else to do the actual work, we might lose critical steps in brain development.

College education should definitely be outcome based though.

gnoandan

All the research on learning to problem solve says you can’t do it without having the basic knowledge.  

It’s like learning to play basketball  without practicing shooting and dribbling.  

You can’t spot the patterns, you can draw on a resource of strategies … without learning these.  You can’t articulate what makes a good novel if you haven’t studied one.  

Some areas have definitely been too focused on skills while never playing the game.  Maths especially.  But you can’t just go to the other extreme. It doesn’t work. 


People have been looking at this stuff for at least 75 years.   It’s not a new question.  And there are reasons why things haven’t changed as much as people might think they should in that time.


Go read *Mindstorms*.  (Papart, 1980)A book so influential it gave a name to an entire long run of Lego products.  But whose idea never really worked for most kids in real educational contexts.


The big issue with education isn’t that.  The big issue is that the qualification, not the learning, has become the goal.  And that’s why AI is a pain.

Unable_Explorer8277

The United States files half the world’s patents.  We are not as bad as you think about producing creative and visionary citizens.

ButterscotchSad4514

Is everything ok on reddit AI generated at this point?

Parking_Act3189

Just to hone in on one part about quadratic formulas. Doing it by hand is how many people will learn how to learn to apply it. Physically writing it down, simplifying it, and solving it show someone how to take the formula and work with it. Only then can you then know how to apply it.

Just learning application without learning how it works is like a pilot learning to fly a plane without understanding Bernoulli’s principle, or how thrust, weight, lift, and drag work. Knowing pulling back on the stick makes plane go “up” and that thing in middle makes plane go “fast.” Isn’t the same as knowing why or how these things work together.

That only comes from reinforcing the basics. Which is what making you solve a quadratic formula by hand does. And it is what AI removes

BaconWrappedEnigmas

Western education system uses the Prussian model of education from 19th century. It is meant to make obedient and compliant workers.  The Prussian system is the opposite of the Montessori method where students solve problems.  

Inverted classroom is the same Prussian system, but students study before classroom, not during classroom.

JoseLunaArts

If AI knows it, why memorize it.  Notice memorizing and learning and understanding are different things.

Education system tries to fill a glass of data.

It should ignite a flame of curiosity.

Kivble

[https://nonartificialintelligence.blogspot.com/2025/09/the-robot-isnt-problem-you-idiots.html](https://nonartificialintelligence.blogspot.com/2025/09/the-robot-isnt-problem-you-idiots.html)

Robert__Sinclair

You described the problem, which is capitalism, not education.  Why would you confuse the two?

[deleted]

&gt;Let's leave the drudgery to the bots and focus our minds where they need to be focused: solving big problems using critical thinking, creativity, and autonomy.

A grand vision, to be sure. But what are you going to do with all the people who have significant limitations due to upbringing or bad genetic luck on their ability to think critically, be creative, or act autonomously?

AdHopeful3801

Why should they write novels using AI. What could they possibly learn from that? You don't produce non-cogs by having them use an easy, though very imperfect system for writing novels. I play extensively with using AI for fiction construction and it makes glaring continuity and logic errors.  Correcting these does teach something, but nothing constructing stories without AI could also teach.

Also, most of the time adults don't solve big societal problems. The problems that can be are things like, how can I help my dog when she ate a chocolate muffin. If AI gives an answer, how do you know it's right. Big societal problems are often unsolvable by individuals.

Feeling-Attention664

Easily conflating a standard core of basic knowledge with producing cogs.

Concern is with thinking.

I only asked ChatGPT three questions and it crashed. The third challenged its assertion in the second lengthy and unsatisfactory answer, that State has no moral or ethical obligation to compensate citizens for our compelled service accepting State currency in exchange for our labors and property.

A fundamental problem with education is economics lack of scientific basis. The deception about money. Where dictionary definition of money is sufficiently vague as to include any trade good, fiat money is not a trade good as it has only the one function: Trade with other humans for their stuff conveniently without arranging a barter exchange.

Fiat money is literally contracts between Central Bankers and their friends providing 'bearer' right to claim any human labors or property offered or available at asking or negotiated price. That is its precise and only function. Other claimed 'functions' are just counting it. Unnecessary complexity to confuse and distract from the foundational inequity.

State asserts ownership of access to human labors and property, licenses that ownership to Central Bankers and their friends who sell options to claim any human labors or property offered or available at asking or negotiated price through discount windows as State currency, collecting and keeping our rightful option fees as interest on money creation loans when they have loaned nothing they own. Not ethical, moral, or capitalist either... 

None of the economists will acknowledge that there is no such justification for fraud and theft. I've been asking them for a moral or ethical justification for the current process of money creation for nearly twenty years without any manifesting. Won't talk about it in any way.

Including each human being on the planet equally in a globally standard process of fixed cost money creation corrects the foundational inequity and establishes an inclusive system of abundance with mathematical certainty. Academia refuses to address or acknowledge the inevitable and most likely effects of adopting a rather simple rule of inclusion for international banking regulation:

'All sovereign debt, money creation, shall be financed with equal quantum Shares of global fiat credit held in trust with local deposit banks, administered by local fiduciaries and actuaries exclusively for secure sovereign investment at a fixed and sustainable rate, that may be claimed by each adult human being on the planet as part of an actual local social contract.'

Jurisdictional law and international provisions to cooperate with society and negotiate exchange of our labors and property in terms of money, in exchange for an equal share of the fees collected as interest on money creation loans and whatever other benefits are offered by community. So adopting the rule has no direct affect on any existing governmental or political structures as they can be included in local social contracts.

Fixed value Shares establish a fixed per person maximum potential global money supply for stability and infinite scalability. A million dollars is conservative valuation of average individual lifetime economic production, a reasonable, sufficient capitalization for global human labors futures market. Fixing cost establishes a fixed unit of cost for planning and stable store of value for saving. 1.25% per year is sustainable, and reasonable price for the convenience of using options to purchase human labors instead of arranging barter exchanges. Reasonable compensation for accepting the options in exchange.

Local social contracts can be comprehensive and generous with ubiquitous access to 1.25% per year credit for secure investment with local fiduciary oversight. They'll need to be to attract and retain citizen depositors and willing available labor for the backlogs of readily funded projects waiting. Like climate change mitigation. They'll most likely have sufficient funding for education.

Ubiquitous access to a million dollars per person lets us multiply total transfers while reducing frequency and stress. A system of abundance doesn't work like a system of contrived scarcity. More time to think. To observe. To not do unnecessary things for the benefit of Wealth, Empire, and Supremacy.

Just sayin'

tralfamadoran777

I don’t think it’s even good at creating cogs tbh.

Outside-Storage-1523

I think there should be a swap in that loop

brainlatch42

This graphic is a really good illustration of why this doesn’t work

Educational-Cry-1707

diobreads

As a teacher who uses AI extensively in my curriculum building, as long as you break the "AI does homework" part of the loop, students are getting significantly better lessons across the board when a teacher uses AI properly.

Mescallan

Whats the point of learning anymore if AI can do that thing for much cheaper than a toddler?

amdcoc

No, it's not. Education is more than just knowledge transfer

ghijkgla

Read "The Diamond Age: Or, a Young Lady's Illustrated Primer", by Neil Stephenson

Opposite-Cranberry76

Pretty much like LinkedIn. AI-generated posts, AI-generated comments, AI evaluating AI responses to AI-generated job postings. It's AI all the way down.

Glxblt76

Teacher uses calculator to make homework, kids use calculator to solve problems, teacher uses calculator to grade homework.  


*It's not like you'll always have a calculator with you in your pocket everywhere you go, people*

Fit-World-3885

God I hope so. Schooling has been a massive mistake. I like the concept, but the execution has been god awful.

Striking_Luck5201

The education system has been cooked and following this pattern for a few decades now. This is what you get when education becomes about maximizing profit, something that's been happening well beyond the past few years.

This effect can also be seen in other types of online exchange in a far more advanced state. Bots write post, for bots to comment on so that the post can get higher visibility... from other bots, who will repost them.

This is just the dead internet theory. Any and all type of "engagement", when driven towards profit, will be gamified to the point where every single step becomes artificial. AI is just the tool, the method. The cause is, and has always been, greed.

This is already spreading to education, naturally, and will expand further into health care, then into most services that can be provided online. The very first completr and absolute conquest from AI will be the internet.

FirstEvolutionist

Yes, education as we know it is cooked. I think you've laid it out pretty nicely.

teproxy

2muchnet42day

Instead of hive mind, factory work
Memorization, ai will start to tutor and teach critical thinking, and lead the student to their strengths and cultivate what they should be doing instead of mindless jobs for pay. As we move toward post scarcity this will be the way the human race becomes smarter. Right now we are in a place where it looks like ai will just dumb everyone down, but we will get to the place of learning soon, there are “As of April 2025, there are 325 artificial intelligence companies in education IT in the United States “  this domain is an important one .

Ok_Elderberry_6727

Plot twist: Then this diagram is also generated by AI.

eurotec4

Yeah, I’m self educating anyway so I think I’mma steal all their markets

Mundane-Mage

Suspicious-Menu-5363

You literally used ChatGPT to create an image to go along with your complaint about ChatGPT.

TheRealGrifter

SillySpoof

OldBa

An instructor that I know told me that he had an essay from a teen complaining that AI is steaing the voice of his generation... and it's hard to argue with that. All the kids are using it (if you don't you risk getting downgraded for mistakes/there's a pressure to use it -- esp for writing) such that it becomes the producer of content and "thinking." And yet we stumble blindly forward, build AGI!, as though it will make all  things better.

aihwao

The system is cooked no matter what you do if the student has AI do all the homework.  It's just as bad as how students would use clef notes or websites that have the answers from the national school books.  As long as the students are cheating, it doesn't matter the rest of the loop.

Koden02

They're not talking to you. They're talking to your administrators, who likely transitioned out of the classroom in just a few years of teaching. Those are the people that buy ed-tech. Those are the people who are trying to find ways to improve teaching outcomes with money that is appropriated only for technology and not for personnel. Teachers have an attrociously limited amount of say in the development and purchasing process of the tools they are given.

jlselby

Thank you for sharing this. I used Kira in my classroom last year, and the co-founders' description doesn't align with what my colleagues and I actually experienced. Every class period felt like crisis management rather than teaching. What we needed (and were promised) was a reliable computer science curriculum. Instead, we encountered constant, unannounced changes that disrupted our lessons and made the platform increasingly difficult to use. As someone who enjoys exploring new educational tools, I was initially optimistic about Kira. However, the implementation revealed significant technical issues: students couldn't submit assignments, the gradebook was riddled with inaccuracies, and student progress would disappear without warning. I didn't think these were typical growing pains for a new platform. I can confidently say this was a product that wasn't ready for classroom deployment &amp; probably still isn't. 

I also found the impact on students concerning. My students became frustrated and disengaged, learning little beyond rapidly clicking through the lesson steps. The tool became a barrier to learning rather than a facilitator. Discontinuing Kira was one of the best decisions I made for my students last year. I'm relieved not to be using it this year and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone still in the classroom.

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mrgerbek

I agree, and I'm one of the people promoting edtech and AI at my college. I've been teaching for 16 years now specialising in programming and 7 years as Head of Department. 

The one thing I keep telling senior management? "We do NOT need yet another program." We've gone down the route of focusing on using copilot and teachermatic. That's it. And it's been great! The digital literacy of all staff is getting to a decent level. You can't just keep throwing new apps at staff. I already have 9 different applications, or web based applications that I have to log in to. I don't need any more when the majority of these tools I keep seeing just need people to be better at prompt engineering, especially now that Copilot is free for education and uses the GPT-5 model. 

I've been marketed a few apps already this year, and the biggest problem I find with them is that you can't edit the prompt once they produce something. I had an app create an introduction to C# and it ended up giving me the geographical data for a made up city that uses C#. The salesperson had no idea where it came from or how to edit. Instead I got "oh, you can just delete those slides".

willerific

You’re not alone. 100% agree, “AI is here to *enhance* teachers” has turned into the most recycled, empty buzzword in edtech. If companies can’t show actual outcomes, it’s just noise.

What’s refreshing are platforms like [Startup Wars](). At least there, the whole point is measurable impact, students actually run startups, make decisions, and you can *see* how it builds problem-solving and collaboration skills. No hype, just data and results. That’s the kind of accountability we need a lot more of.

This is literally the mainstream opinion of most teachers I meet. It's simply drowned out by all the bullshit and advertising

SignorJC

You are part of the problem. You're lazy and not willing to do the work and stay complacent. I say this because you say no peer reviewed articles on this but a simple Google search gave me dozens of results with research...imagine how many results I would get if i used AI to help me in my search?

You will, and should be, replaced.

Blakpepa

CisIowa

You’re not alone. So much of ed-tech feels like hype without proof of real impact. What teachers actually need are tested, practical tools that ease their workload and support student outcomes. Platforms like **Extramarks**, for instance, are focusing on AI features backed by structured learning frameworks, which feels more grounded than the usual “disruption” buzzwords.

Worried_Baseball8433

Choose the right AI platform. Every student can succeed

elearningmania

You make some good points, but after 20+ years in education (more than half as classroom teacher), I really think we need to see research base as 1 factor among many in determining classroom value.

Since you brought up medicine, how many kids have we medicated into compliance based on studies run by drug companies wanting to sell their products. And for how many years did we follow “research” that told us to stop teaching phonics.

There are good tools and bad tools. And it does make me cringe when a manager with no classroom experience reminds me to explicitly state in every email and presentation how our tools aren’t replacing teachers…but the reason we say that stuff is because of the number of times the guy in the building who likes innovative tech-enabled strategies gets accused of replacing teachers. 

It’s not like the edtech folks just dreamed that phrase up.

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AI makes you smart if you use it to learn.

The corollary is it makes you dumb if you use it to cheat.

tinny66666

AI has shown that the current education model is no longer functional. 

A new system that replaces homework, tests, and quizzes with actually learning is going to be required. 

New approaches are needed, yesterday. 

Ttbt80

Our school started with a no-phones policy this year.  It's something.

pabodie

My school bans phones and chrome book use limits access to ai sites. The Change from last year is intense and incredible.

WestGotIt1967

Cheating is older than AI, the internet, and even computers.

Top_Willow_9667

This shit is gonna make me delete Reddit forreal. The post and the article at least 90% generated by chat gpt 😂

youonkazoo53

Remember that morons are usually discovered in the midst of some kind of compromising act, and that many of your colleagues will end up that way.

Oxo-Phlyndquinne

I think we should mandate all school children to implant AI into their brains with technology and just be done with it.

etakerns

As others have said, you can choose to use AI as a personal tutor and guide you to learning the material well.

The real problem is the loss of the social experience of learning and learning to collaborate, if everybody else is just using it as a crutch.

It's not really about whether AI can do the work, it’s about what gets lost when students stop struggling through the work. The struggle is where discipline, resilience, and original thought get built. Offloading that to a chatbot isn’t just cheating school, it’s cheating yourself out.

Weary-Wing-6806

"I do not want to use the cars, I prefer the horse carriages."

"I do not want to use the computer, I prefer the newspaper."

"I do not want to use the internet, I prefer the yellow pages".

...

"I do not want to vaccinate, I prefer to live life like nature intended".

"I do not want to...blah blah blah bunch of generational bullshit reasons..."

Same energy. You will be assimilated. Progress stops for no one.

Ok-Cod-6740

Look, your energy about how people are using AI is important and we must be discussing best use cases, studying its impacts, and so forth but right now that is not as important as who controls it and profits off it.

hip_yak

Ai got these kids 67 skibidy with no aura

Commonfutures

My friend just finished Stanford's CS229 (Intro to Machine Learning) class via continuing ed. I took this class 12 years ago, and it was a HARD one, with tons of math and coding. 

He said his entire cohort used AI to solve the homework assignments. The TAs even encouraged it. Students didn't bother forming study groups because they preferred to use AI. My friend resisted the AI use for the first homework, but then gave up because he couldn't afford to fall behind. 

If Stanford can't figure this out, what hope do we have???

lovebzz

actually I think knowing how to use AI tools efficiently is an important tool for you later in life

Illustrious_Comb5993

30 years ago I was in grade school and we couldn't use calculators on math tests. "You won't have calculators with you all the time" the teacher said. I write this on a device I always have with me that has a calculator, internet connection, and more computing power than any computer I touched in college.


There is still a lot to be figured out about how to use AI as a tool but that's what it is. People can use it to get answers and produce mid level products but those who figure out how to use it to understand that material better, advance faster, and do more at a higher level. 


OP, you're making the right call by figuring things out on your own but don't shun the technology - make it help you learn and you'll be ahead of the curve.

Keethera

I find AI is a great way to streamline information. I'm able to find the material I'm required to read, and learn things very rapidly compared to Google searching 15 different things to finally get the answer.

MGoodacre

AI only demolishes your education if you let it.
An education isn't about sitting in class and staring vacantly at the teacher. To really learn you need to engage with it. Nowadays there are so many resources online there is no reason why you shouldn't be self studying.

TestEmergency5403

I suspect future generations will question the value of having the intelligence inside of our heads when we have it in our hands, much like our current generation questions the value of knowing how to hand-braid rope from plants when we can just buy it at the store.

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AI is transforming learning by personalizing educational experiences and fostering engagement, emphasizing the role of technology in education.

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