The public sentiment regarding Turkey's potential rejoining of the F-35 program is predominantly negative. Concerns focus on Turkey's military ties with Russia, distrust towards Erdogan's intentions, and implications for U.S. and NATO security. Many commenters oppose the idea on the basis of perceived geopolitical unreliability and argue for Turkey to enhance its own defense capabilities instead.

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The NDAA 2020 is very clear. Turkey must completely  relinquish any S-400 fire units to be eligible for F-35 foreign military sales.

AcanthocephalaEast79

Send the s-400s to Ukraine I’m sure they could find a way to put it to good use

EchidnaWhich1304

A  funny circumvention of sanctions.
For dumppies

Any-Original-6113

&gt;The Trump Administration is exploring a workaround to restore Turkey’s access to F-35s by deeming Ankara’s Russian S-400 “inoperable” after removing a component—an attempt to skirt CAATSA sanctions that Congress must review.

Isn't more like US saying that turkish s-400 is inoperable ? But it looks like KAAN is so doomed.

edit : yeah nvm it is

&gt;Suppose Congress allows Trump and perhaps Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth to declare the S-400 neutralized because Turkey removes a single component. In that case, they may enable Trump’s short-term sale of F-35s to Turkey to proceed, but this could create a long-term disaster.

SraminiElMejorBeaver

Wasn't Turkey returning the S-400 to Russia?

Redditforgoit

  I think the Israeli use of the F-35 has been a bit shocking to its neighbors that don't have it.

  The Turks have to have been tearing their hair out as the only one of the bunch that ***almost*** got their hands on it.

Atralis

U wot mate? How is that anything less than a massive political win for Turkey? I can't for the life of me fathom why any US President - but especially Trump - would give them that.

tree_boom

Does that mean they have no more interest in the eurofighter?

Mountain_Hospital40

They should be forced to donate it to Ukraine.

Harold_Bolz

That would be a death sentence for TAI Kaan. 

Or never mind, it is dead already.

Glory4cod

It's somewhat wild that if a country's military operates F-35s, it becomes a regional power.

Diamond1africa

The purchase of the S-400 was entirely political. After we shot down the Russian jet, no NATO country stood behind us. Therefore, we were forced to mend our relations with Russia. As a result, we bought a single S-400, conducted a test firing, and then stored it in a hangar. It was never actually active. Because of this lousy system, we were removed from the F-35 program, despite having paid for it and produced parts for it. Now they are trying to fix this problem, which was caused by Erdoğan’s disastrous foreign policy.

chivkon881

Montezumawazzap

That happened quick.. Turkey was shook knowing Greece got f35s. This KAAN birds need engines too.

Let’s see ever this goes.

_chip

Yay, so Turkey can get ripped off like Switzerland.  lol

Shoddy-Childhood-511

cordazor

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I thought turkey was making their own version of the F-35. Why buy the American version? Also, the Chinese copy of the F-35, the J-35 is for sale. At a much lower price. Turkey can get the TEMU F-35 from China and save a lot of money.

Smooth_Expression501

mabiturm

US should make a condition that they hand the S-400 over to Ukraine in exchange for being let back into the F-35 program.

gwdope

WhyWasIBanned789

As long as Turkey threatens Greece, buys Ruschist military tech and continues to back slide on democracy. They should never get their hands on the F35

Aromatic-Deer3886

Such an odd alliance. Last time this happened by a US senator, Bob Menendez, he was sentenced to 11 years of prison for bribery.

This is not about S400, F35 or US interests.

DONT GIVE IT  THEM. 
This isn’t good. 
Like Hungary. 

They’re not really allies.

Hot_Ease_4895

Everybody is praising US for shunning Turkey out of the F-35 program, a program which Turkey contributed in development and funding in key areas and already paid 11 billion dollars in per-orders; because of Turkey's S-400 purchase from Russia (which doesn't prevent them to sell F-35s to India which uses the S-400 system or Greece which uses S-300 Systems).    
  
But nobody asks why Turkey had to buy the S-400 system, maybe because US refused to sell Turkey Patriot anti-missile defense systems? They want Turkey to stay weak and open to missile strikes from US and Israel. US can't stand losing control over other counties thousands of kilometers away from it, just like the rest of the vassal Eu countries... Sorry guys this is hypocrisy at the best.

thoriumTears

It sounds like they'll be soon having the Eurofighter instead. Looks like Germany has dropped it's ban.

What with their current equipment, Eurofighters and their own 5th Gen, they should be ok.

I imagine they'll be going for the GCAP also in the future.

When you sell the F35 to Turkey you can also sell them directly to RuSSia.

Automatic-Cod9137

I can't believe people still think the S-400 was the reason for the F-35 ban. The real reason was obviously to ensure Israel has the upper hand in the region. 

Still Turkey will eventually get the F-35's, it's all just theater.

TurkishChadBot

Don’t worry, the UK are happy trying to sell them EFs

bukowsky01

Last time a superpower didnt deliver a weapon platform turks already paid for was when British empire did not hand over 2 battleships to Ottomans on the onset of ww1. Germans gave 2 battleships instead and had ottomans join war with central powers.those battleships bombed Odessa. Later,  Galipolli happened. Allies could not help russian tzar. Bolsheviks won. Soviets happened. Yes a lot changed in 100 years.  But i am so afraid history will repeat itself.

RasputinXXX

Turkey should left NATO for good, my brothers should not die for EU and USA imperialism. Good luck with Russia.

Acrobatic-Event-6487

Given the record of s400 in Ukraine I’m not so sure it’s a significant problem anymore, especially if Turkey gets new leadership.

swalker6622

Trump: Everyone gotta spend more on military, at least 5%

(Turkey wants to spend money on US military toys)

US Senate: Nope, not a chance.

Make that make sense.

berikiyan

The real reason inho , Turkey won't be getting the 35s, is their aircraft construction. They are developing fast and already copying  missile and bomb technology. They have stated for their TX aircraft, that they where making over 300 parts of F35s and now it's their technology that they will use on their domestic aircraft. 

US military complex doesn't want the competition.

cyricor

Don't do it, Donald. Erdogan CANNOT be trusted with the tech on the F-35. It will immediately be in Russia and China's hands.

PancettaPower

idk why media only talks about it. its very obvious turkey wont be getting f35

DizzySleep1

LtCdrHipster

If it is going to be used on the SDF, don't do it.

fuggitdude22

Locked because people can't be nice in the comments.

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olim2001

Why would they even want to keep the S-400?, Ukraine war has proven it is not as good as everybody thought.

jeroen79

The U.S. signalled its willingness to sell the F-35 to India despite India’s possession of the S-400 and also approved the sale of the F-35 to Greece despite Greece owning the S-300.

The double standard is only for Turkiye and the cause of all of this is Israel lobbying not some genuine technical concerns about Russia stealing F-35 secrets.

AgentDoty

Should give them monkey model F-35. Maybe the one with aluminium skin instead of radar absorbent coating.

agenmossad

Yeah, we won't get that plane. Hypocrisy towards us is astounding since India is being offered F35 while operating S400, but it's what it's. RCS detection capabilities are different for Turkey's and India's S400's, I guess.

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