Public sentiment towards the ongoing U.S. government shutdown is largely negative, characterized by frustration and disillusionment with both political parties. A significant number of commenters express concerns over the adverse effects on ordinary Americans, particularly regarding financial security and essential services like healthcare. Blame is heavily directed towards both Republicans and Democrats for their inaction and perceived prioritization of political agendas over the needs of the populace. Calls for accountability and reform, especially regarding congressional pay during shutdowns, underscore an urgent desire for change amidst feelings of helplessness and anger.

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stay strong dems. the american people is with you

littlewolf40

Right now there is literally no upside for Dems to cave, public opinion is still solidly on their side and the Trump admin flailing and throwing troops at goobers in inflatable frog costumes is not helping the GOP case. Hold the line.

angrybox1842

A reporter just needs to ask without any hesitation if Trump thinks it would benefit America if he became it's dictator and he'd probably straight up say yes at this point.

Low-Cauliflower-410

[Air traffic controller are starting to call out sick and causing flight delays](https://thepointsguy.com/news/government-shutdown-air-travel-troubles/).

This is how the shutdown ends, when air travel starts shutting down.

Kevin-W

I saw he wants to invoke the Insurrection Act so he can invade Chicago?

Larry___David

At least the polls are somewhat reflecting people catching on to Trump and co.'s inability to hide absolute glee at their cruelty of laying people off and causing the suffering of shutting down the govt.

CoolHandLukeSkywalka

Kamala wouldn’t have shut down the government.

Nintendo_Pro_03

Rahm Emmanuel in the middle of explaining why cities are best to become Trump-free zones when CNN cuts him off to air yet another dementia-fuelled unhinged lie-spree from the head of the MAGA cult.

He claims to have achieved Middle East “peace” for the first time in 3000 years.  Has a gaffe where he says that even though he’s republican, he cares about health care and there might be a surprise there but ObamaCare is all a waste and needs billions of dollars to prop it up.  

Claiming Chicago has 11 killings and 38 shootings in a week and now ICE has reduced that to zero.  Says we have 4 reports in a row of zero illegal border entries, so low he almost doesn’t believe it.

Says they’re going to every city one by one to eliminate crime.  Tells fake stories about how tourists come to Washington to see memorial but just get murdered and he has to call their parents and say they’re gone.

Falsely claims ICE agents have to go in and get “long term criminals, hardened criminals.”

Most of the questioners are obvious MAGA disinformation suck-ups, long strings of fraudulent MAGA propaganda framed as a “question.”

Falsely claims they built a road that unleashed billions and billions of wealth.  Number one country with AI, beating everybody because of our energy.  Says our grid is old and tired so he’s allowing the AI companies to build their own plants and be their own utility and they will put their excess capacity back into the grid.

Says he isn’t sure AI will be a great thing then contradicts and says it will be.  Says Facebook’s building is bigger than Manhattan.  

Most of the craziest push-poll style questions are from a reporter who says she was mugged and that everything is different and safe now.

They finally cut away at the point when CNN’ s own reporter was posing another question.

The panel after cutting away was pure sanewash, reframing Trump’s obvious gaffe of admitting Republicans don’t care about health care as if it’s some brilliant demonstration of “The Art Of The Deal.”

Host oddly framing the shutdown and crisis as if it’s a choice by the people, because they don’t want to pay more for health care, almost as they’re being too cheap.

MAGA mouthpiece David Urban admitting Johnson shut down the House because he doesn’t want any of the republicans to say the wrong thing on camera.  Admits that if the government is closed, it’s failing. Says they will make a deal and make this a win for Republicans.  

Brings Emmanuel back.  He points out that the risk of Democrats being blamed for the shutdown is negated, thanks to how Trump and the Republicans handled this.  Says the Dems could use sharper messaging to point out their goal is health care.  Things like pointing out how Trump is giving $20 Billion to Argentina but won’t do anything for 20 million Americans to get health care.

AntoniaFauci


A little off topic but that lying piece of shit just said during a presser about Ghislaine Maxwell being pardoned … that he didn’t know anything about it and couldn’t remember the last time he heard her name. 

Yet, even when reminded that she’s in prison for crimes against children, the human piece of shit said he’d have to talk to his DOJ about a pardon for her.

bbjenn

With the GOP in full control, why do they need the Dems support? Is it a larger majority that is needed? Happy they can’t run everything through but wasn’t understanding why.

lovemypups21

So apparently House is not in session till 14th, and their logic is that it would force Senate Dems to vote on the CR since there's no other choice. Doesn't it make sense for Johnson to reconvene the House, vote down the Dem resolution in the House, and then put pressure on Senate Dems? Now the Dems can make a case for House GOP being derelict by not even being in session

crackdup

Karoline Leavitt starting up with the "We want to decrease drug prices by 300%!" nonsense again. 🤦

claytonbeaufield

Stephen Miller needs to be on TV more purely because he's both pathetic and hilarious. Like we're really being ruled by this nerd? Even both sides news media are like fuck this guy.

Orange8920

I know the reason. I know its because the GOP is beholden to their constituents, the lobbyists and billionaires. But it really seems like they could get an easy win here. Just actually negotiate with the Dems. You know we suck at messaging. Just meet their demands and twist it as wins. GOP were the adults in the room and ended the shut down. GOP negotiated a better bill to save medicare cuts and keep insurance premiums down. GOP made improvements to the big beautiful bill to further help real patriots. Dems will try to counter the messaging. Dem voters wont care will just be relieved premiums wont go up and that the government starts working again.  GOP voters wont know or care. Independents will see it as a GOP win.

jazwch01

HoneyNutCheerios78

Watching the WH press briefing is depressing. It’s so clear conservatives are trying to change public opinion by brining in political hacks and right-wing alt media to ask ridiculous questions, e.g “what do you think about George soros finding radical left groups”. This country is a banana Republic and such a joke.

theduke9

People don't realize just how much cover the media gives Republicans in the name of "both sides" coverage. Even Trump sending in the National Guard to states gets this at some level as if it's Pritzker/Newsom vs Trump in some sort of spat and not governors fighting back against blatant violations of states rights.

This isn't a normal shutdown and it's probably cover for ending our democracy as we know it.

black_flag_4ever

Democrats should change their demands - approve the CR only if the Epstein files are released. Let the Republicans squirm.

nonamenolastname

Kind of strange how little news there is on this given what a big deal it is.

Jooey_K

nostradamefrus

The annoying part for me personally is I've been trying to fill out the citizenship application online, but need information from a specific federal agency that, of course, I can't reach by phone now because no staff is available, so I have to put it on hold until this clown show is over...this affects so many people on so many levels. I hope an agreement is found soon.

Yarusenai

Can someone ELI5 the cause of the shutdown? It’s because they can’t agree on a healthcare budget, right?

Constant-Constant471

The longer the shutdown lasts, the more Democrats should escalate their demands. Obviously, there is concern that doing so may cause public opinion to turn against them, but I doubt this will happen if they keep their demands tied to healthcare benefits and other social programs. People like being able to receive healthcare, so Dems fighting *harder* so *more* people can receive healthcare *more often* really shouldn't cause public outcry.

The GOP needs this shutdown to end way more than Democrats do.

Larynx15

Republicans are the cause of this shutdown.

shadowdra126

Looks like both sides are heavily dug in. Nothing is happening.

orlinsky

Such an incompetent administration. Congratulations America, ya idiots.

No-Departure-899

May it never reopen.  

Remember, the Republicans control all three branches of government, a 'mandate from god' or something silly like that, they can stop this at any time, and they just don't.  If you live in a red state, it's a good time to politely remind your R reps that they're incompetent.

thefocusissharp

This thread gets so much shorter when the 'Schumer is going to cave.' and the 'Democrats are weak.' bots stop posting.

Pave_Low

When would the next actual vote on the CR bill be?

Many_Estate1581

LetsBeRealisticK

Can't close on my home scheduled for the 10th since my loan is USDA. I'll have to shell out $1500 to pay for another month's rent if it extends into November. What horrible timing for all of this to happen.

_Zilphy_

I’m not very optimistic about the situation still. Corporate/Neo-Liberal Dems aren’t known for holding the line on shutdowns. They want gov’t to function, though Republicans want to break or obstruct that function from doing its job or holding accountability.

I bet you by the end of the month six of those bootlickers is going to bend the knee to the Orange Turd and it’s going to be framed as a Dem L by media.

Ultimastrike21

The US system is fundamentally broken.  As far as I know the US is the only country in the world where a government shutdown is possible.

In parliamentary countries like Australia and Canada if the supply bill that funds government doesn't pass it triggers a double dissolution and fresh elections are held.

In other countries failure to pass a budget means the budget stays as it was until a new budget is passed.  In all cases, federal employees keep getting paid.

Dr_Hexagon

Day 6. I nearly remembered the word 'government' but then luckily Trump's reeducation committee reminded me that there was no such thing

Oh wait

I used it again

No no no! Don't send me back

mbene913

T-18 days until I miss my first paycheck. I think the second missed paycheck will be the tipping point.

FantasticJacket7

So what are the chances trumps shutdown ends anytime soon?

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Answer: Congress needs to vote on a budget annually in time for the beginning of the new fiscal year, which is October 1st. There are two bills being proposed, one by each party, but no agreement has been reached. If they don't reach an agreement by midnight on Tuesday, the government can no longer legally spend "non-essential" money, and will shut down until an agreement is reached.

This means that non-essential government employees are furloughed until spending can resume. They will be given back pay later, but have to go without during the shutdown.

For ordinary folks, this means we can't have access to things like national parks, museums, IRS taxpayer services, and some benefits. Federal research projects also get put on hold during that time.

AppendixN

Answer: This is all a fault of one person - Attorney General Benjamin Civiletti who in 1980 made insane decision to interpret US laws to require shutdowns. It happens in no other country, and didn't even happen in US before that craziness started.

Basically Congress needs to pass budget or a "continuing resolution" to fund the government. But what happens if it fails to? In every normal country (including US before 1980!) government just continues operating according to already passed laws and previous funding until Congress makes a decision.

But instead, this was interpreted by this madman to mean that every "nonessential" government function must immediately shut down until Congress comes to an agreement.

This is NOT required by Constitution or any law, and it's just utter madness.

Since that insane legal decision, both parties have been using this opportunity to play a game of chicken, causing regular short term "government shutdowns" that affected pretty much every president so far. It's pointless, highly damaging, but unfortunately everyone involved really likes to play the game of chicken, and is unwilling to stop this.

If you rely on any "nonessential" government function, you'll likely to be affected, but "essential" ones continue to operate.

Answer: A large number of government subsidies and grants are being removed in this budget. Specifically subsidies tied to the ACA (Obamacare). There is a lot of pressure from the public to keep these, so the Democrats are refusing to vote for cloture (end the filibuster) until the subsidies are added.

As far as the shutdown, the largest programs in the Federal Government (Social Security, Military Operations, Medicaid and more) will continue functioning as normal. However, the non-essential staff will be put on unpaid leave.

This non-essential designation is…arguable. For instance, the Forestry Service will be furloughed, right at the start of peak wildfire season. Unfortunately, we don’t know the scale of the shutdown because many of these agencies have not published official Guidance. Guidance is what the agencies would do if funds are frozen.

The other wild card is Trump’s threat to fire government workers. He mentioned vague numbers of how many people he would fire, which is far above the number of people furloughed during previous government shutdowns. Unfortunately, we won’t know until it happens this time around.

EDIT: It looks like Guidance was posted late on Sunday, September 28. We’ll probably have an analysis on the impact tomorrow morning (September 30).

teddyrupxin

Answer: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government\_shutdowns\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States)

Generally a "shutdown" is what happens when the current funding for the government's activities is exhausted, and no current budget is in force.  Many of the services that the government performs are suspended, except for those judged to be essential which do carry on.  Many government employees are not paid during shuttdowns, but they are paid retroactively once the government is funded again.

This has happened several times during my life, and is occurring more frequently as time goes on.  In the past, it has happened when the congress and executive branches are controlled by different parties with conflicting goals.  (E.g., More services versus less taxes.)  However, the looming shutdown and the longest shutdown to date have both occurred with Republicans in control of both congress and the presidency.

Despite Trump early on claiming responsibility for the earlier shutdown, he later attempted to pin the blame on the Democrats in congress.  Similar rhetoric is being promulgated at this time, with VP Vance labeling the upcoming one as "a Democratic shutdown" in a recent tweet.

Shutdowns are often ended by passing a "continuing resolution" to keep funding the government's activities until a budget can be passed.  I think that there have been times where they have been ended by the passage of a budget, but I'm not sure on that.  Often enough, it requires the debt ceiling (the amount the government is allowed to borrow) to be raised in order to pass a budget, as a lot of the money the government uses is borrowed money.

dreaminginteal

answer: Democrats want to extend the ACA tax credits  , refund Medicaid that the BBB took away, and fund medical research that was also cut . The yearly budget can’t pass unless a few democrats vote to pass the budget so they have some leverage, but the downside is a government shutdown. Essentially government services keep running but some nonessential are closed.

B0xGhost

Answer: every year Congress and the President need to agree on a budget to fund the Federal government. If a budget is not passed, the government will start shutting down to just essential services, who are people who may not be paid depending on how long it goes for.

To pass a budget requires a bill to pass the house by a majority and 60 Senators in the Senate. Because Republicans don't have 60 senators they need a few Democrats to agree to pass a budget this time

Lately when the two parties can't agree with each other, we get a CR, continuing resolution, which just extends the previous budget for whatever amount of time both parties will agree on. 

However, because This Administration has continued to encourage no working with Democrats and shutting down departments even though they are funded, Democrats are less likely to now work with Republicans, unless their own terms are being met, even for a CR.

alotofironsinthefire

Answer: The United States government is funded through tax dollars, and that funding is authorized by Congress. Congress is supposed to pass an annual budget that takes effect on Oct 1, the first of the fiscal year. 

Congress often doesn't pass an annual budget, and instead passes temporary measures. 

Oct 1 is coming fast, and Congress has not passed an annual budget or a temporary agreement. If they do not do so, most parts of the government will close their doors and not operate until the Congress passes something. There are some provisions for essential services basically requiring them to work even though they won't be paid, so the military will still have to work. 

National Park services will mostly close, dept of agriculture mostly doesn't do inspections and stuff. Funding grants to programs like old folks homes or daycares won't get their money and will shut down. 
People should still get social security checks, except sometimes the person who's job it is to push the send button isn't there, so anything automated will go, anything not automated won't. Nobody there to troubleshoot if problems come up, and nobody there to process new claims. Same with Medicare.  Automated processes will still work, but nobody will be able to process much. 

How much problem this causes depends entirely on how long it goes on. 

Overall, both parties want the other to be blamed. If they feel confident the other party is taking damage, they've got some reason to drag things out and try to get more things they want out of the negotiations. So right now you are seeing a lot of Republicans saying this is the Dems fault, while the Democratic congress people say "Republicans control both sides of Congress plus the Presidency, it's out of our hands"

How long this lasts will depend a lot on public opinion.

Sweet_Cinnabonn

Answer: This happens when congress cannot agree on a budget to pass. It used to be pretty rare, but this has been happening more and more often over the past decade. Trump’s first term saw the longest-ever shutdown (so far) of 35 days. Usually when we get close to a shutdown, congress is able to pass temporary measures to sort of kick the can down the road, but not always.

Essentially what happens is that some programs and organizations that rely on congressional funding cannot operate, and temporarily shut down. The specifics really depend on each organization, and each shutdown. Usually, the most necessary federal services like USPS and Air Traffic Control continue to operate, so average people might not be immediately affected if they don’t work for the government. But its still bad for the economy and disruptive for anyone who relies on federal benefits or needs to call or do business with a federal agency, with most or all of their staff out of office, or certain services out of order. We’ll know specifically what is affected and how once it happens.

The shutdown will last until congress can agree on a budget. Its a bit of a game of chicken with neither side wanting to take the blame for the shutdown, but also neither side wanting to compromise on what they each think are very important budget issues. Eventually one side will cave or they will find a middle ground and the shutdown will end.

It seems like so far the narrative focus of this shutdown is mostly about healthcare, but thats not the only point of contention and we can expect more issues and disagreements to come out. Democrats and Republicans will blame each other for the shutdown like they always do and it becomes a fight for messaging and attention in addition to the actual issues at hand.

GilderoyRockhard

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Answer: The US political system doesn't have 'failure of supply' as a concept the way that Britain does...

Rather than triggering new elections, the failure to pass a budget simply causes the government to start closing government offices and stop spending money until a budget is passed.

Typically, the party in power shuts down the most publicly-visible stuff - offices that pay out benefit checks, national parks, and so on - as a way of trying to ensure people get pissed and demand that the minority party (which is almost always the one causing the shutdown by blocking the budget) yield and allow the budget to pass.

When the budget passes, all government workers are back-paid even though they were temporarily laid-off during the shutdown...

Dave_A480

Based off of previous shutdown, anywhere from 3 weeks to 4 weeks :(

MissMerida2121

Longest was 34 days. I'd say could be three weeks

ApprehensiveArmy7755

Air traffic controllers. They are required to come in to work even though they aren't getting paid. They will be back-paid (historically, but who knows with this administration). They're already over worked. They'll start calling in sick. If they are or are not doesn't matter. This will cause delays. Delays cascade and compound. Pretty quick every flight is delayed and people start asking why. This is what happened last major shutdown with Trump as President. 


There are two major factors here that will make this worse though: Trump has been gutting the FAA, and air traffic controllers are ALREADY on a major strain. And the entire economy is under unusual strain. So we could just see a fucking major air accident before we see this breaking point.

GreenFox1505

It will last up until the 15th of October or maybe a few days later. Military personnel families will need their paycheck on the 15th.

siruberjames

I think they're going to try to make it last as long as possible and use it as a pathetic bargaining chip to destroy as much as they can in the process. They're ripping the government apart from the inside out.

aasteveo

A month or more. A month is a long time when you're a government employee who's affected by a lot of this political BS.

Wantons124

There's really no telling these days.

On one hand, the last one ended because TSA got the '[Blue Flu](https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/05/opinions/tsa-blue-flu-economic-injustice-granderson)' aka they called out sick, en masse, and caused so many headaches for politicians suddenly they saw eye-to-eye. I've seen a separate post that by Monday, they may start doing similar again. 

OTOH, Trump v2 has said they are wanting to fire people. And during COVID, air traffic went to ATC zero in quite a few places, so the administration may say screw it, if you don't go to work you're fired, even if you're sick. And not enough people to keep certain towers open? Screw it, ATC zero it and let the airlines work it out. 

There's no real telling what they are going to do. I suspect it'll be over soon(ish), quite likely before 2026, but... who knows.

L0LTHED0G

My rough estimate is that it will end on October 28th or 29th. This is based on the estimated pay cycle of TSA and FAA essential employees.

Les_Turbangs

Nothing will happen in the end. They will pass a CR and then do the whole thing again in a year.

dennismullen12

Before the 15th and nothing will happen. It never does. It's always just for show.

Original_Load_1187

1Litwiller

Until the stock market goes down. It's a win win for the rich, politicians especially gop. Stocks are up they're getting money, federal workers checks are backpaid, you don't get paid you get mad and humans are easily manipulated so it's their chance to gain voters or protest the opposing party

Ok-Performance-1432

4 weeks with the dems cracking first. There is will no healthcare concessions. There will be some sort of compromise. The other less likely but possible option is Trump will taco and give in to heath care demands. But nothing will happen in the short term

magnumopus44

Personally, I'm hoping it lasts until Republicans finally realize they can't just brow beat the Democrats into everything they want, and they come to the table to negotiate. I don't care if it takes months or years. Fuck those fuckers on the right. They don't get to act like Eric Cartman, taking their toys and going home, when things don't go 100% their way. Stupid, childish motherfuckers.

MyFurryIsStinky

I think Republicans will watch the country burn to the ground before they give an inch.

Electric-Sheepskin

Why are these questions always posted by accounts that are around a month old? Definitely feels like some organization gathering info.

Izenthyr

As others have said, it'll last probably 3-4 weeks. It will end in some sort of deal where Democrats will be able to say they "saved" healthcare but it won't actually be anything meaningful, and then Trump will try to take credit for it. His supporters will believe him, everyone else won't. Effectively we'll be right back where we started.

uggghhhggghhh

As long as they can. They been saying since the civil war ended that the federal government is broken and now they’re out to prove it.

Harbinger2001

I think flight delays will start after 2-3 weeks.  As we get closer to Thanksgiving, there will be more pressure. So probably 2-3 weeks on short end, no longer than 6 weeks.  

I’m probably of the minority opinion, but I don’t think the dems have much reason to cave.  Polling seems to be in their favor and it’ll be a huge win if they can get the healthcare concessions.

blevster

Maybe it will be, in a way, permanent. The White House sets its own budget, calls its own shots. This is only slightly removed from the rubber stamps of Congress and the Supreme Court.

Koorsboom

Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein Epstein 
Release the unredacted Epstein Files now!!!

After_Fix1358

Open enrollment for government sponsored health plans start on November 1st. So since the premiums will have to be set by then I think it will last until the first week of November.

98941

nathingz

I’m guessing Oct 16. I cannot explain why. Outcome will be the Dems mostly fold.

thebabes2

I kind of feel like this one is going to take the cake...federal government as we know it is not going to come back as long as those epstein files hang in the balance

smitteh

Unfortunately, as soon as those Democrats start running out of money, they're going to cave. Another couple weeks probably. Who cares about the people?

Feeling-Farm-1068

2 to 3 months. The outcome will be as always, **They** get richer **We** get poorer

YourMeteorologist333

Hopefully as long as it needs to to get the ACA credits put back in.  Fuck paying 1000 dollars a month for insurance.

LordTalesin

I am afraid that the Republicans don't want to reopen the government

IGotSkills

The longest was 34 days during trumps first term (Dec 18 through Jan 19). I have a sneaking suspicion this will be a lot longer. Because when it does officially reopen, jobs, unemployment, and CPI inflation data gets calculated and released. 

When that happens, it will not be pretty. Enjoy and take advantage of your 401k’s now. Because they’re taking a huge hit when Uncle Sam is back online. And if you haven’t already, you might want to start buying some precious metals.

2dazeTaco

hagschlag

Honestly? I feel like it could be 3 months.

Automatic-Cod-3436

Probably like 3 weeks. No meaningful outcome.

OJSimpsons

Realistically 3-6 weeks though with how disfunctional our government has become I could potentially see this one going for more like 3-6 months.

TheRealAMD

I'd guess the Trump family nets around 500M each

Road_Kill8675

It will last until it negatively impacts one party's popularity enough. This won't happen until the effects hurt some aspect of the economy enough. Maybe it's air traffic controllers striking due to no pay, or essential services not mailing out checks. 

Until then it's just a game of who can blame the other side more.

WorkLemming

It will be over quickly. Republicans will nuke the filibuster and pass their budget.

hobard

Government shut down?  Nah more like let’s fire all federal employees with morals, the news stated that federal employees were not going to get a pay check but the congress will continue to get paid!? HOLD THERE fckn paychecks too  and you’ll see shit open up asap, with a need me to stay extra..

Imaginary-Record-112

2-6 months. GOP isn’t interested in discussing anything. So it’ll just linger along while shithead dumbfuck totters around. Once he’s no longer maybe a few immature adults may start talking after the country is in a Great Recession to dwarf the previous Great Depression.

Amadeus_1978

If Democrats have suddenly grown a spine it won't end until the Republicans are willing to compromise.

Realistically the likelihood that they'll cave in a few weeks is high.

OpinionatedNoodles

At the rate things are going down there, the outcome will be an official dictatorship.

Extra-Succotash-9846

GroggySpirits

Im a furloughed federal scientist and this is my 3rd shutdown in my 20 yr career. Short shutdowns are not really an issue but the last one was 35 days and it really screwed up a lot of our research. And our office budget. 

This one does feel much more nerve racking because they are threatening to fire everyone. Im not sure if its a bluff or not, but probably not because Russ Vought is behind it all.  So far, he has done everything he’s said he would do. We’ve been told we can access our computers for 15 minutes per day to see if we’re fired. So nice of them. 


We’ve already lost so many people, so many top level scientists, we don’t have enough people to do the science we have been paid for, and now they want to lay off more. We are literally in triage, deciding what projects we keep and what we can cut or which ones we even have people with the niche scientific knowledge to complete. 

Flood risk estimation to make sure culverts and roads don’t collapse in a flood, Drought risk estimation to see if communities have enough water to go around in an extreme drought, sediment transport monitoring and modeling to identify which streams are most at risk for erosion which destabilizes roads and bridges, monitoring modeling of groundwater contaminants like PFAS to see which if any wells or water bodies they might infiltrate into to protect people from exposure, monitoring of harmful  algal blooms (the kind that kill your dog if they swim in a lake with it) and studies to determine which lakes are most susceptible, continuous stream monitoring which the weather service uses for flash flood alerts- these are the types of studies my tiny office does and the types of project that will end if they fire us all.

AfternoonValuable317

G51926

Didn't even know it was shutdown until reading this. 

SuqMahdihk

Some parts of the national parks are shut down. It generally doesn't stop people from getting in, but because services are stopped, the places end up quite [trashed ](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/article/national-parks-were-trashed-during-the-last-government-shutdown-former-officials-are-urging-trump-to-close-them-this-time-around-191919191.html)by the time everything is up and running again.

Equal_Sun150

For many federal workers it’s a free vacation with backpay. 

For essential workers it kind of sucks, since they have to work and still have to deal with delayed pay. 

For contractors who can’t get funding during this period, it really sucks for them. They don’t get backpay.

For your average American, they don’t care because it was a federal government shutdown. State and local governments are still running, so most essential services like schools and police departments are still operational.

SpecialistIll8831

Sucks for the federal workers who have to wait to get paid but it’s an overly sensationalized nothingburger otherwise

whisperworks

Indifferent. This happens twice a year. 

I am a recently fired federal employee. I was fired for writing a letter saying I disagreed with the direction of our Department. 

We’re so far into fascism that a govt shutdown is oddly the last thing I’m worrying about.

ImpressiveShift3785

Nothing new, doesn’t really affect my life in any way I can’t lie

Dragonnstuff

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