Public sentiment is overwhelmingly negative regarding the deportation threat against Subramanyam 'Subu' Vedam after his wrongful conviction and exoneration. Many commenters express outrage at the injustices he has faced, calling for accountability and compensation from the justice system. There is a strong consensus on the need for urgent systemic reform to address failures that allow wrongful convictions and the plight of individuals facing deportation despite their exoneration.

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Out of the frying pan into the other frying pan yeesh..

Common_Blue

&gt; However, upon his exoneration, Vedam was taken into custody by Ice. In a statement to the Miami Herald, the agency accused Vedam of being a “a career criminal with a rap sheet dating back to 1980”, adding that he is “also a convicted controlled substance trafficker”.

These people can all go to hell, and I say with as much disrespect as possible.

JerryDipotosBurner

Adam__B

IrishRepoMan

Any remaining doubt that ICE is the gestapo?

freexanarchy

The base cruelty of Trump, ICE Barbie, and Homan is disgusting.  Embarrassing.  That they do this shit in our name is offensive.

I am sorry for what we did to you, Mr. Vedam. I hope you find peace.

2-wheels

His face reads: Seriously God, this is some bullshit, why the fuck are you testing me this way?

-Mega

I hope he sues everyone for millions of
Dollars .

EddyS120876

A depressing case of r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR

monsterfurby

Republicans are fucking monsters. Monsters. Somehow they keep finding ways to one up their evil and somehow be even more despicable. Nuremberg 2.0 cannot come soon enough.

WhamBlamWizard

If anything he is owed immediate citizenship for being wrongfully captive in the country for so long

davucci89

God damn we’re such a shit country. How terrible

Bistilla

Couchman79

Yeah, "American Justice", 

I don't think the world is seeing it the way MAGA does.

World Class Callousness.

crakkerzz

Absolute evil on a scale we haven’t seen since the 1930s. This is a scary time to be alive.

A_Random_Canuck

HumanTimeCapsule

In twenty years if we're talking about anyone in this story in a positive light,  it'll be framed around this guy

Frankentula

We should be calculating the lost time, mental anguish, lost health, lost wages, lost potential, and then have to pay in full, for these life-stealing mistakes.

Alien_Way

And yet, as always, the majority will stay quiet. It ain't them after all.

apxseemax

Do they just have a suffering quota? It’s their whole goal.

mdhunter99

Religious conservatives love ruining innocent people lives.

abgry_krakow87

So, if there was a deportation order before he was released, and he was sitting in prison, why was he not just deported while he was already in custody sitting in prison for 40 years? Isn't the whole thing ice seems to be claiming they're doing is deporting violent criminals? So they're running around the country, grabbing innocent people with no criminal records off the streets to deport them, but they're also just sitting on deportation orders for people who are sitting in US prisons wasting. Are they just maliciously lazy or do we have some private prisons paying ice kickbacks to not deportation their slave labor which would hurt their profits?

dafunkmunk

Compassionate moral justice OR a taxpayer funded $50,000 bounty payout. You can only choose one.

Altruistic-Car2880

We are in 1938 Germany. The Nazis are in control of our government. Justice is a faint memory. Things just get worse every day.

Low_Thanks_1540

SliGhi

I know people hate the word dystopian but this is dystopian

Shatterbrained_

Stupid-Jerk

So fucking sad. We live in sad times indeed.

Zippier92

strappin

Reminds me of this old sketch from Not the Nine o Clock News. He's a jailbird, sir:
https://youtu.be/teSPN8sVbFU?si=bof0xuUderzOCNY2

smiffy666uk

MountnWookie

It's extremely bad optics in a sea of extremely bad optics for this administration.

blac_sheep90

CancelOk9776

Stephen Miller probably hand-picked this man. It's time to see how he feels about being deported from Washington and not knowing where he's going.

sonicsludge

Looks like a case of political persecution

green_chunks_bad

[deleted]

Why was he given the deportation order? Because of his conviction! Make it make sense.

astrogeeknerd

Wow, at that point it's time to move out of America. The hell with that.

360walkaway

At this point I don’t see why he would even want to stay in the US.

Anonnamus

Hannymann

JFC. I had my kids taken away when I got charged with two felonies for domestic violence with my ex wife’s friend as the victim. I lost my job. My ex wife got literally everything. My divorce says I’m domestically violent due to the charges. TWO years later they drop the charges a month before trial after deposing my witnesses. Did they give me my kids back? Nope. $20K to take my ex back to court to get supervised visits twice a month for six hours. Can’t get the DV out of my divorce paperwork because it “was the finding of the court”.

The American legal system will get you down, kick you, bleed you out, and then jail you for being poor.

Titty2Chains

Disgusting. I hope these people get what they deserve.

CantaloupeInfinite20

Where are they going to deport him to?  He should ask to go to Switzerland.

StraightAirline8319

-_-0_0-_0

Good grief. This isn't making America great again. Just saying!  
I'll get me coat.

Excellent-Tomato-722

Lou_Hodo

We he be able to sue the US government for unlawfully incarcerating him for 40 years?

Hot_Performance_7710

Wow, and will we get a pardon for him? Na but Maxwell will get hers in a little wile.

KYresearcher42

You think after being imprisoned for 40 years he would have become a citizen

SilverSheepherder641

Visiting America was on my bucket list list before I died.
Now I hope I kick the bucket before I get to that on my list.
What the f#@k have you people done to your country.
Just get ICE to deport the people that voted for President Pumpkin in the first place. That'll clear out some of the deadwood.

Wide-Reach2218

Why's this indian-origin and not just indian? Clearly he hasn't got a new citizenship.

Tomasulu

MostNeighborhood68

Despicable. There is nothing anyone can do to give that man his life back.

Inevitable_Reason225

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article312442984.html

pfascitis

May be pay him 43 million $ and he will happily go to canada

Prestigious_Piano247

Indian origin…. So he’s an American citizen? ICE deporting USCs now?

objective_think3r

Gla55_cannon

Maja_Bean

Before you complain or comment. this guy had a deportation order signed by a judge before the wrongful conviction. He was in the US on a visa and got convicted for selling drugs BEFORE he was arrested for murder. I don't feel sorry for him and he should be deported.

IcyCondition4287

MajorAchilles

£58K for each of your life lost and spent in prison while everyone thinks you are a rapist? Not enough by a long way probably some of the people who wrongly put him in prison are on better pensions than that. Needs fixing.

Darkheart001

"The current maximum cap on compensation of £1 million was introduced in 2008" For 17 years??

weregonnamakit

Massive respect to this guy. He was told to plead guilty and reduce his sentence (if he had done this he would've been out much earlier). I think even an innocent person would be tempted by this but maintained that he was not guilty and he served the time.

Now that he's been released and found innocent. He's been asked to pay HMP for the "room and board" out of the compensation. He campaigned the government to scrap this and won.

17 years of his life. He's not had a chance to start a career or anything.

This guy deserves to have a fantastic quality of life at the expense of the justice system for wronging him.

greylord123

What's the correct price for freedom? I understand there has to be some limit, but having your freedom taken due to a wrongful conviction must be horrific. There are so many things... Personal relationships, mental health, career progression, inability to save for retirement/invest, and who knows what else.

I don't think there should be a cap. I believe it should be a generous amount per year, tax free.

It has noting do to with the cash, they have stolen his life, almost as bad as killing him. hes never getting that back.

He should be compensated for that, they illegally imprisoned him poor guy.

He's got 30 odd years left, it  should be a million minimum,  it shouldn't be a livable amount ,it needs be a wonderful life amount that would be the right compensation.

jodrellbank_pants

We'll probably spend more on legal fees fighting this guy than just paying him a decent sum

egg1st



"Malkinson was identified by the victim in an identity parade. Several key details did not match the description of the perpetrator: for example, she described the attacker as being three inches (7.5 cm) shorter than Malkinson, with a hairless chest, and no tattoos. Malkinson had chest hair and prominent tattoos on his forearms. She also said the attacker would have a "deep scratch" to his face, which Malkinson did not.

There was no DNA evidence linking him to the crime at the time.

At trial, he was presented as a drifter and was found guilty of two counts of rape and attempting to choke, suffocate or strangle with intent to commit rape but found not guilty of attempted murder after a jury at Manchester Crown Court (Crown Square) spent nine hours considering their verdicts. He was convicted by a 10–2 majority jury verdict and sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 6½ years."

- wikipedia

10 jurors decided that the say so of the victim was enough, despite inconsistencies.

Beginning-Seat5221

He's right. I've always said it should be £1m for every year taken. £58k is just a decent salary. He's not only been effectively working 24 hours a day, he's been forced to do it and kept in a compound the entire time. For no reason. This guy should be able to come out and party every day for the rest of his life and never set foot in a workplace he doesn't want to be in.

Salt-Plankton436

Wasn’t this the guy where they tried to charge him for ‘board and lodgings’ for his 17 years and knock it off the compensation?

Common-Ad6470

pay him the past 17 years of combined salaries from all the people who worked to convict him and hold him in prison

UnreachableTopShelf

Should be 17 million, minimum, I dont care, find the money. They can find the money to fund other things, so they clearly dont give a damn that someone lost 17 years of their life. Its disgusting.

Its not just about what assets he lost, its so much more. Its about qualify of life eg its missing out on chance to start a family at a younger age, mental health affected by spending 17 years in a cell... your best years gone etc.

Gooner_93

It's beyond insulting. 17 years. 17 years in prison for something you didn't do....

It's beyond insulting, it's disgusting.

There should be no minimum, it gives carte blanche to the entire system, with a mitigation of costs to boot. Putting aside the fact someone lost 17 years of their life for something they did not do.

Even a million a year doesn't sit right with me, his life was destroyed in multiple ways. These cases should also be stringently reviewed in regard to how they unfold so badly and who is effectively to blame.

peanutbutteroverload

New? DNA evidence. Hopefully the new evidence is that DNA science has improved since 2008.

rev-fr-john

There is no way to determine a fair an equitable compensation policy or formula that would be acceptable to everybody.  He can't get the years back.  We can't give them back.  We can't even stop something like that from happening again.  All we can do is help  him to start to rebuild a new and different life.  

I would like to think that in 17 yrs I'd have accumulated more than  £1.3 mill in total assets.  Typically I'd have had a wife, kids too, a job or a business and the house would be paid for.  He'll have none of that and likely won't get married or have kids at his age.  On top of that we'd need help to re-adjust to life outside.  

If I was to quantify all that I'd guess a minimum £3.5 mill to start.

Habsin7

Until false accusers are held accountable this will continue to happen

Until we take the innocent until proven guilty approach this will continue to happen

I dont know if the UK has even changed the definition of rape to include something women can do to men

xboxhaxorz

That's ridiculous. 17 years for something he didn't do. £58k is an insult

Goatsfallingfucks

Even if the £58k per year is all he gets for wrongful conviction, he should be able to sue for millions for negligence by the police and CPS. There were serious errors made in disclosure and procedure in building this case, and the indemnity insurer for the doctor who did the forensic exam on the victim should be looking to pay out too, since it was a mistake in the evidence she provided that ended up pointing the jury in a completely different direction than they might otherwise have gone.

indigoneutrino

cosmic_monsters_inc

I'm fairly sure that some of his compensation is used to pay for his Prison cell and food while locked up.

Geoffstibbons

Shocking that the very system that is put in place to protect the victims and punish the perpetrators fails like this, this man's life has been ruined, his character has been defiled, no matter the facts there will always be people who will say "no smoke without fire" he's innocent, he is due compensation, but the amount I'm reading is an insult, I hope he takes this further because it can be any one of us this happens to 

If the current cap for being wrongly imprisoned is £1.3 million and his solicitors are saying that with CPI since the cap was set the figure is about £1.65 million, they are not that far apart.

We do not know what they are asking for, which makes any assessment on our part nothing better than speculation.

andrew0256

What's also interesting is how did they found DNA evidence 17 years later

BeersTeddy

No amount of money will change this. Gotta be one of the worst things in the world. Jailed for a crime u didn’t commit, mortifying 

Terrible-Coconut-250

I've seen police officers and teachers being awarded more for having their feelings hurt ,that is a disgusting amount

Justice is priceless. The money he got will make his life good the only way he can get justice is if the rat who accused him starts their 18 year sentence tomorrow.

letmeexistt

How about some of that compensation come from the people who lied to put him there? Or even better, how about they go to prison for a bit.

jung_gun

if you don’t go you will get a removal order and have no options.  Do you have a lawyer? If your petition has been pending since 2016 you really should.

SpecialistBet4656

Listen: the vast majority of people showing up to court are experiencing business as usual.  There is always a risk of doing anything when it comes to living as a non-citizen, especially those in the immigration system. 

The risk if you DO go is that you may for some reason be the target of an ICE arrest if your case is completed that day, or that you get swept up in a raid even if you aren’t the target. 

The risk if you DO NOT go is that the immigration judge will treat your application as abandoned and enter an order of removal (deportation) in your absence - which would turn you into a target for an enforcement operation where ICE comes looking for you at home or work and would eliminate a future right to a hearing.

The people being arrested at court, from what I understand, are mostly individuals who have been in the US for less than 2 years or people who were paroled into the US but then had their parole rescinded.  ICE asks the court to dismiss the case and then takes them into custody and issues an expedited removal order. 

If I were you, I would find the $200-300 to pay for two consults with a reputable immigration lawyer who can advise you and advise your mom.  Insist on separate consults because your individual circumstances may differently affect the direction of a legal strategy.  Don’t skimp and take a free consult, and do use the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) website referral network.  If you already have an attorney they should have told you this - you can also get a 2nd opinion - nobody reputable will discourage you from doing so.  

If you decide to go, but don’t have an attorney, that doesn’t affect anything regarding the risks I explained above. But make sure to tell the judge at your hearing that you would like some time to find an attorney before your next hearing.

If you need referrals, message me the city and state where you have court, and if different, where you actually live.  Ill send you some good names.

ETA: while I am intimately familiar with this world, I am not a licensed attorney and even if I was, this is reddit, not a law office.  I am offering my personal perspective not legal advice.

etbmm

If you don't go to court - you will definitely be ordered deported in absentia.  ICE will be knocking at your door. Your place of employment. And anywhere else you frequent.

Your choice.

louieblouie

ICE can technically detain any non citizen. But most would be released almost immediately, and those asylum pending cases would almost all get bond right away that arent subject to expedited removal. 

Going back to your case, its unlikely you would get detained. You arent subject to 240B proceedings because you have maintained physical presence since 2016. Most people they are detaining are people who were paroled via a biden program in the last two years, its pretty easy to remove these people under the current statute.

So yes they can detain you, but those people not subject to a barr on bond, almost always get bonded out, so its highly unlikely they would detain you. I wouldnt worry about it.

You definitely need to go.  If you don’t they will come to your home.

parkingcop11

The ones getting picked up after courts are dismissed are within the parameters for an expedited removal. Since you came in 2016 you don’t qualify for expedited removals.

Chickaduck

IF YOU ENTERED ILLEGALLY ( ENTERED WITHOUT INSPECTION) YOU ARE AT RISK. I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR THE 2 YEAR MARK BUT NO ITS FOR ANYONE WHO ENTERED ILLEGALLY. THEY ARE DISMISSING CASES AND INSTEAD OF LETTING YOU LEAVE ON YOUR OWN ….. ICE AGENTS ARE DETAINING YOU IMMEDIATELY FOR DEPORTATION. OUR LAWYER CANT EVEN EXPLAIN WHATS GOING ON…….. AND JUST BECAUSE YOU SUBMITTED PAPERWORK TO START YOUR PROCESS YOU STILL DONT HAVE RIGHTS TO STAY AND WAIT FOR A DECISION. BE CAREFUL IF THIS APPLIES TO YOU BECAUSE THESE LAWYERS GET PAID BUT YOU STILL GET DEPORTED…….  NYC THEY GOT MY WIFE YESTERDAY 😢

Used-Courage-633

Arrive in separate cars, bring your lawyer with you to the courthouse. 

sir-dis-a-lot

SignificanceFast9207

Go to court or you’ll be ordered removed in absentia. All your efforts down the drain.

Better_Improvement98

Can your lawyer ask the court if you can attend remotely? Please ask !

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