Public sentiment is overwhelmingly negative towards President Trump's handling of US-Canada trade relations, with many Canadians expressing frustration over Trump's behavior and the implications of his tariff policies. There is significant criticism aimed at both Trump and Canadian leadership, particularly Doug Ford, with a strong desire among Canadians to distance themselves from U.S. influence and explore alternative trade partnerships.

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Doug Ford

Any government building contracts should have a clause that Canadian steel and aluminum must be used  to support our country during this turbulent time.

Bright-Ad8496

Drop the chicken tax. US car manufactures are already producing some of the worst cars available on the market no need to tie ourselves to the ball and chain that is an isolationist USA.

Let Canadians buy German, French, Italian, Czech, Romanian, Japanese, Korean, and Chinese cars while Americans  get stuck buying trucks that cost 100k and break down after 30k kilometres on the road.

bosnanic

100% export tax on POTASH!! MAKE THEM MAGA VOTERS FEEL IT

TheRealPancetta

Good. Time to drop the gloves on the pedo rapist.

captsmokeywork

We should negotiate a deal with China to assemble EVs in Canada in return for dropping tariffs. Since the USA is so deadset on killing Canadian industry, that would be a smart move

ultra2009

He is stringing Canada along in the same way Putin is stringing him. 
My guess is that once he realized that his petulant behavior swayed the election in Libs favor, he has decided to do everything he can to correct his ‘error’ and if that includes tanking Canada’s economy under Carney, then so be it.
He doesn’t want Caney to have any success whatsoever, and blowing up the economy is his main goal.
The sooner folks come to this realization, the sooner they will start seeking alternate paths.

skepticallyCynic

Carney needs to stop wasting his time with the trade negotiations. Take the hit (it's going to happen anyway) and quickly move away. And I never thought I'd say this, but sure, bring in BYD et al to make their cars here.

CanadianPFer

BigbadJohn000

GreatGreenGobbo

Carney is the nuclear option


A tarif on PORNHUB

Icy-Gene7565

Also deny the US government purchase of shares of Canadian mining companies. They have that, they have everything they want from Canada.

Professional-Bad-559

It's all over. It'll be another ten years of stagnation which will be called Values™ SMH...

ManufacturerVivid164

Why not just allow all goods to enter without tax and let the consumer decide?

voltairesalias

I haven't voted for Carney. I despise the Liberal Party but I have full confidence in Carney trying to protect our industries. What I have a problem with the Liberal Party and what I see continuing with Carney is a lot of talking but no actions. I think regardless of politician afiliation, we all agree that there is no point negotiating with US while Donald Trump is in power. He let the rabbit out the bag already. He won't sign a deal that is favorable to us.

So the trade talks with United States are not important while Trump is president. If we are getting fucked, might as well spite the Orange Clown as well. The problem is the lack of trade talks and trade deals with other countries. Our country was already in a bad situation before Trump got elected and imposed tariffs. We have to be moving rapidly on finding alternative markets for our products and resources. But in six months there has been absolutely nothing done. I understand that trade deals are not passed in a month but in six months Carney administration has nothing to show for it. Donald Trump and his incompetent administration were able to secure a ceasefire with Israel/Palestine. Donald Trump has more accomplishments than Carney.

Few-Character7932

We don't have a lot of leverage. Sure they need our aluminum and oil but Trump seems willing to let Americans pay more and he'll keep the tax revenue. And the price of cars went up a bit - but not noticeable. Oil prices are low. 

You can see the US economy slowing too. Job numbers are down but inflation is not bad and stock market, buoyed by tech stocks is doing well. So the average American isn't seriously hurting yet.

As long as Trump feels the pain is not too bad why would he change course and give concessions? He'll just wait us out. This is the start of the economic force he was referring to.

We could of course go nuclear and charge export taxes on the few things Americans need but that is a button you can't unpush and may have unintended consequences.

Pivoting trade and nation building projects will take years.

The short term hope is SCOTUS will determine the fentanyl tariffs are illegal and we'll get some relief with sectoral tariffs - quotas perhaps. That will buy us some time until the mid-terms.

A tough road but I believe in Canada.

DukeandKate

Potash would be our leverage.  Without it Americans are having a very bad day.

ukrinsky555

Potash is still a much needed commodity, and Canada has the upper hand.

alice2wonderland

Trees, crude oil, lng, fresh water, potash, metals, other buried minerals and natural resources

Engineered_disdain

We have no leverage, but neither does the US on many products. Anything we need to sell to the US, the US also needs from us and will have a hell of a time getting these products from elsewhere. This was the original basis for free trade between our countries. This is why, out of all the trade deals, Canada/US is at a stalemate and probably best left to time than to rush to make a deal that might be bad. The only leverage the US really has is militarily, and that is a non starter because it nothing we can control or do anything about.

lorenavedon

What part of 'Elbows Up' does G&amp;M not understand?

CaliperLee62

Leverage - critical minerals (that China doesn't own) - our willingness to freeze out China on trade issues like electric vehicles (they really dont want us to switch sides).

Thanks-4allthefish

NorthernUntamed

Close the St. Lawrence Seaway to U.S. bound vessels. Close off Canadian airspace to U.S. carriers. Seal the Alaskan border. None of this will happen of course, nor should it in the present circumstances.

AdHocSpock

The leverage is that we are no longer under the thumb of the U.S. We are no longer a captive trade partner. Five years from now Canada will be financially solid while the U.S. may not even exist.

Reidinski

wjames0394

Canada needs to get their hands on the Epstein files

Dumpenstein3d

I can't read the article because of the paywall, so I don't know if it's discussed in the article.


My recommendation is that Canadian leadership focus on the small points of leverage in states where you might sway the Republican Congresspeople. 


It's a closely divided Congress. Just a few votes. 


In fact, it might be more productive to meet with individual Congress members rather than the Trump administration. 


Liquor isn't a huge industry overall, but it's important for Kentucky. As a result, both Kentucky senators, who are both Republican, have publicly opposed the tariffs.


Are there other examples? Florida and tourism maybe? 


Something in Alaska perhaps? Lisa Murkowski, a Republican Alaska senator, already publicly opposes the tariffs, so it's clearly politically viable in Alaska to oppose tariffs. 

No-Coyote914

Pretty good article.  Says our leverage is with the manufactures who may not be able to weather the possible 4 years of Trump tariffs because it takes time to build up the kind of infrastructure the US would need to replace what's already there.  Basically to make connections with them and avoid bravado.

Although, TBH, I don't know if that'll work either.  This is a guy who's setting up a plague to hit the US with vaccine skepticism after all.  He may not care.

Gauntlet101010

paywalled, but steel, aluminum and possibility of the keystone xl pipeline renewal

Slayriah

This article was written by someone who asked an AI "how to negotiate" and noticed we were missing something

LukePieStalker42

Indeed, the only leverage Canada has is Americans. If they bleed loudly enough, it may influence him. Or not.

DOFOs Reagan video is a good tactic. We need to do more of this.

bandersnatching

Diplomatic alignment and cooperation with China is our only leverage, like it or not. 

AccomplishedLeek1329

We don't have any other then convince of close location for resources they might need.

NihilsitcTruth

You don’t need leverage, you need good outcomes. Anybody can be a tyrant little prick and shut down or tariff something. But the real negotiation is finding mutual benefits.

redpandafire

It was an ad quoting Ronald Reagan but ~~we~~ Doug Ford wussed out. 

BernardMatthewsNorf

At this point the USA is sinking itself into a third world poor country status where they think it's alright to leave Dementia Don in charge to run it into..... A fourth world hunger games.

relocatemil

SuperMike100

I don't like Ford but he's not to blame. The toddler would have put a tantrum eventually. You can't control that.

ebfortin

NSHermit

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Losing or being restricted on selling to a 40 million people consumer base will hurt the US more than anyone in the Trump administration will ever admit.

Argue the grey areas of that all you want but in the long run it's losing customers US companies need as much as their own base.

sabres_guy

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I think the best response to a toddler throwing a temper tantrum is to remain calm and act like an adult to encourage the toddler to regain control. That’s what’s happening here.

Newleafto

This is all we can do.  If it wasn't this made up excuse it would've been another.


Buckle up everybody.  Things are going to get ugly

Former-Physics-1831

“When you’re calm and ready to come back to the dinner table we’ll be here and we can talk about it”

essuxs

Is he planning on fighting China and Russia too, or are they friends

maxgrody

I know we need the U.S. for trade and I know the government will do whatever it takes to get a fair deal with them. But man sometimes I wish Carney would just tell them to go fuck themselves

ThorFinn_56

Get ready to hear the 51st state remark from him again. I bet he’ll mention it at least once by the end of next week.

FriendlyGold1717

Don’t bother. He’s not worth the time. Let’s trade elsewhere. Even if we need 50 new trade deals to make up for the one we’d have with the US

chesterforbes

Alpha male who wears more makeup than any female, obsessed with a ballroom, has fragile ego shattered by TV ad. 

Release the Epstein files.

Cimatron85

We just need to stop pretending that we can make a deal with America while this emotionally-unstable conman, liar, and bully is in office.

I don't see what's so hard to understand about this. Trying to make deals with such a person is not some example of savvy, gotta-hold-our-noses-and-do-what-we-gotta-do thinking, it's being a sucker and a mark.

Logical_Hare

Fine you said we can chat again when you're ready but please don't go there and bend a knee

mikew7311

He beats me and spits on me and calls me names. But thats just how he shows love. I don’t want to leave him. 

Thats what we sound like as a nation right now. 

Yes. Believe me. I understand the potentially destabilizing pain needed to separate ourselves from the US. 

But seriously, how many times do we need to be clearly told were garbage and stepped on before its clear there isn’t a deal here unless its completely one sided? 

Trump admin wants our resource rich lands for themselves. Thats the simple plan here. 

Our only play is radical decoupling.

faithOver

well Carney trying to  get Trump back to table but now Canada get the snub
How long ?
who knows 
just wait till CUSMA this just warming up
Gonna be a lot in a lot of Trouble here

001Tyreman

This is like when Grandpa tells the same unhinged story at Thanksgiving and the one sober, responsible uncle manages to keep the entire dinner from falling apart by placating to grandpa numbnuts while calmly reassuring the rest of the family.

Imagine the nonsense Poilievre would be parroting back at Trump if he were PM. Makes me shudder.

notofthisearthworm

CanOfWhoopus

It’s a power-play. The orange pussycat take what he dishes out, so he’s having a tantrum.

Upset_Nothing3051

Man, I just had a hankering for some juicy Taco right now.

ronbo69

Stomp your feet and cry your tears, lil Dondon. Wah wah.

somewhereinfrance

Mandilloran

There was never a deal to be had. Only a demand for capitulation. 

invisiblebyday

Carney needs to throw Ford under the bus on this one. Just make the comparison to Trump that Ford is like "those nasty democrat governors he doesn't like" - a premier of a different party who is trying to sabotage trade talks.

It's complete baloney of course but gotta talk to this guy in language he understands.

msaik

monkeytitsalfrado

Trump's tantrum will end up getting more people to see the ad in the end

Content-Inspector993

Jesus fuck grow a spine already and tell the fucker to piss off.

madhi19

At this point, why bother. 
Fuck off, USA
We’re better off trading elsewhere by counties that respects us.

local_cheddar

Mythulhu

I think Carney should do what china is doing and completely ignore him. At least for now.

purpleplez

Don't worry, just put your elbows up Carney.

MrReddit416

We should just start targeted trade negotiations in the States but without going through federal government. I’m sure there is enough motivation there to cook something up.

rtiftw

OkRB2977

I'm always impressed when leaders take the high road, but how do negotiate with a guy that goes so low he creates tunnels?

RAMacDonald901

Have a feeling Carney is making the mistake of being too rational and logical. 

He knows counter tariffs will hit Canadians, so he doesn't want to put them into play.

Unfortunately, when you're dealing with a much stronger bully, you need to be prepared to give them a black eye even if it means during the fight you take a bigger beating. Need to make them feel hurt to disincentivize them from extorting you.

redux44

As an American I just throw my hands up and scratch my head.  Then I look to the north and see the adults in the room.

sane-asylum

Wish Canada would be prepared for actual things and not just talks about trade that lead to a big ball of nothing

decendingvoid

I feel like carney and dougie playing good bad cop with the orange taco

Ranchy_aoe

I really hope this is all part of Canada's plan.

Green_Judge_2239

Can Carney have a consistent message? Dude constantly talking out of both sides of his mouth. Last week it was US-Canada relationship is strong, early this week it was that it is over, and now we are having "constructive" negotiations while Trump is clearly mad. Literally no idea where he stands on anything.

Bodysnatcher

Carney is all talk no action. How about let's get this country jump started with a long list of big projects NOW.

AppropriateEffect947

Oh my gods why?

Seriously, what is going to change here? 

I refuse to believe a guy that worked in the banking sector, with a good reputation at that, is incapable of pattern matching.

DingusMcBingle_IV

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