Public sentiment is overwhelmingly critical of Israel's actions in the peace process and skeptical about the effectiveness of the proposed International Stabilisation Force. Many express outrage over ongoing violence, demand accountability for Israel, and emphasize the need for Palestinian sovereignty and genuine justice. There's a strong opposition to foreign military involvement, perceived as exacerbating tensions rather than fostering peace.

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SS: Azerbaijan has agreed to contribute troops to an International Stabilization Force that will help secure the Gaza Strip after the war. To date, Indonesia is the only country to publicly commit to contributing troops to the ISF, declaring that it would send 20,000 soldiers as part of a UN-mandated mission. The US has also been in talks with other countries.

xland44

Someone has to go dig out hamas and put in a government before there's anything to stabilise. If Israel is just going to hand over the portion of Gaza they occupy and call it a day, than we should remember UNIFIL stayed in southern lebanon for 48 years and utterly failed to prevent Hezbollah re-occupation or Israeli incursions into this territory. 

Magicalsandwichpress

Israel should push extremely hard to get more from nations like Azerbaijan, Saudi Arabia, the UAE. And if possible nothing at all from Muslim Brotherhood lunatic supporting genocidal states such as Qatar or Turkey. I hope Netanyahu won't drop the ball on this one because it's not less than critical for the cease fire to hold.

Cannot-Forget

Pakistan?  Heck no…

One of the most (if not the most) anti Israel countries gets to setup a base right next door to Israel.  What can go wrong?

mkondr

Would they do that even if Hamas refuses to disarm? I don't really see any of these countries lifting a finger to combat Hamas. It'll be the Lebanon UN peace keeping force all over again

HarshComputing

Ah Pakistan, they can definitely be trusted to create an anti-terrorist environment. Not like they sheltered Bin Laden from us or anything

New_Relative_1871

Indonesia and Pakistan are very much the forces I would not trust in Gaza. They might use it to put their boots on the ground and establish a weapons / training supply network for the terrorists.

Better_Cauliflower63

Why would your average Hammas fighter give up his weapons when he has lived a good life lording it over the general population not having to scratch around for food,money,accommodation and healthcare it’s not like there is a great vibrant economy there. The whole place depends on charity from the rest of the world and all the neighbouring Arab countries despise them.

Maximum-Shallot-2447

Tricky-Anything8009

offcource they would because they support terrorists

MiddleeastPeace2021

Some probably will. They probably see them as occupiers, colonizers, complicit etc... it's would help a little to get mandate from UN, hence will look like UN peacekeeping force and a broader international force, throw in some Irish, Italians, French, Norwegians, Spanish, South Africans etc..

BleuPrince

That is actually one of my biggest concerns about this. The international mediators aren't going to last long if they're getting shot at by hamas.   
Which means they'll bail out and leave Israel to do the dirty work, which is really unfair because then everyone will blame Israel for it. 

IMHO the internationals should disarm hamas and fast before this thing blows up again.

Inocent_bystander

Good question, depends on what these forces are doing. If they are a proxy for the occupation or actually want to protect Palestinians.

Palestinians, among other neighboring nations, attacked ottoman soldiers in the later days of the ottoman Empire because it morphed into a colonial mindset and was just exploiting the resources and people.

They should also be deployed in the westbank and have authority to shoot at armed settlers attacking Palestinians.

CheValierXP

Hopefully, they attack the Indian armies stationed therre ( if it is). They will know how efficient the Ok Indian special forces are.

Pastasteak

The international force is to protect the Palestinians. If they are there to protect Israel's expansionism, they can't be there.

[Israeli president confronted about expansion in West Bank and settler violence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh_ENaXmcE8)

I mean Tony Blair can't be the ruler of Gaza.

PLUTO_HAS_COME_BACK

Hamas not giving weapons so no international force coming.

PossibleGazelle519

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the peace plan cannot move forward if israel keeps attacking. hamas has said they will treat any international force as they treat the idf. 

you don't police to victims of genocide, you police the perpetrator

checkssouth

Yes, without question. They’re also going to want to execute huge numbers of political and religious dissenters inside Gaza, many of them children.

AstroBullivant

No. Hamas isn’t a monolith.

This argument just plays into Israel’s hands. Not all of Hamas are religious murderous zealots. 

Some want the illegal occupation by Israel to end. The blockades lifted and a life to rebuild and to be left alone by Israel. Palestine has the right to resist. 

If Israel can use white phosphorus, collective punishment and sexual assault as a form of war, they can understand that Palestine want to lead themselves and not want to keep fighting with an occupier that acts against international law.

The settlers out of the West Bank and no further interaction with Israel.

Why is that hard to believe? Palestinians have a right to govern themselves. Israel has proven to not be trustworthy and the dehumanizing of Palestinians needs to end.

Fanatic3panic

Of course they will support any attack, they support a Hamas so do t ever speak against what they do including against Palestinians

Due-Giraffe6371

Israel will support attacks and "accidentally" bomb members of the international force, especially if they are spotted in hospitals.

Ok-Secretary2058

If they are acting on behalf of Israeli and western imperial interests, if they are not sustaining the interests of ordinary Palestinians first and foremost as the main and only priority, it doesn’t really matter how I feel or what I support. The people who feel sidelined and forgotten will respond however they see fit.

Apprehensive-Cake-16

This obviously depends on the spin from TikTok.

If the spin is "here is collaborators 'oppressing' Palestinians on behalf of Zionists", then they'll support it.

If the spin is more like "Israel wants Hamas to attack international force so that it'll have an excuse to finalize 'ethnic cleansing' of Palestinians", then they'll say it's another proof Hamas is doing Netanyahu's bidding.

They aren't driven by facts (which they have zero interests in as long as reality seems more complicated than a short tweet), they're driven by ragebait permeating their echo chambers.

knign

Are these forces expanding freedom and prosperity for the Palestinians or not? If they are just doing occupation and tyranny, then we know the answer.

whater39

First question: will Israel allow an international force into Israeli-occupied territory?

globalgoldstein

My other proposal is that this international force won't be really effective like in Lebanon so there will be nothing to attack.

MysteriousOwlOooOoo

First you have to assume there will be a legitimate international peacekeeping force that Israel would be comfortable with the IDF withdrawal from its remaining 50%+ of Gaza, I see no force assembling soon.  
  
  
  
I also see no chance of a force containing Egyptian, Turkish, or Qatari soldiers ever being trusted by Israel(nor should they be trusted by anyone).  Nor do I see the United States contributing any significant number of troops.



"The Americans believe this is a temporary situation, and are convinced that Hamas will be disarmed soon. Israel, of course, is much more skeptical. In a recent meeting, IDF Chief of Staff Eyal Zamir made a request of the Americans: *Explain to me please. Your multinational force, with a few battalions, enters a tunnel. Hamas operatives are armed there. How exactly does this disarm Hamas? Who exactly will hand over the weapons? And what if they don’t?*

*You didn’t believe the first phase would happen*, the Americans said, *believe that the second will happen too*. Have a little faith, the Jews with an American flag on their lapel told the Jews with an Israeli flag."



The status quo was calculated, Gaza is cut in half, and the Palestinians who want a better life will want to be on the Israeli side (it won't be international anytime soon).  
  
This is all calculated and reality, Israel would like to reduce its troop deployments and let the soldiers go home and regain their lives, but I don't see that being anytime soon for a large part of the force.  
  
I also don't see Hamas giving up its weapons anytime soon. I wish it weren't so, but it seems pretty far fetched given what Hamas has been doing since the ceasefire.

TheSameDifference

I don't want the security forces to be attacked. On top of that I don't think it would really accomplish anything.

jimke

If there are foreign journalists allowed in, we could probably judge better.

Even-Mouse-8016

Hamas has made it clear that it wants a Palestinian state and that it is willing to disarm for the sake of Palestinian liberty. If Israel eventually makes it clear that a Palestinian state will never happen, the occupied Palestinians will revolt again and violence will break out. And pro-Palestinians will be quick to protest again. We want an end to the occupation, that's all that we want.

Bnedem

I really think that the discussion needs to be about what's being done to end Israeli's occupation and crimes in the WB and Gaza. It's ridiculous that disarmarment is even being discussed without discussing the end of the occupation. If people support Hamas attacking forces that try to disarm them, then the occupation is the reason why. Its' crazy that a country can carry out a genocide and continue to stay armed and make decisions about the security of the people it has genocided.

EDIT: Also what strategies are going to be used to disarm Hamas? Are we going to be seeing mass death of children again? If so, then yes people will be protesting against disarming hamas.

allthingsgood28

Yes. They will treat any western aligned forces as occupiers. They will treat any middle eastern forces has collaborators with the West and Israel. Propaganda will be pushed for this that will be believed. 

Palestinians will be lead to believe that this is just another phase of the occupation. Some will fight back by throwing stones or attacking them. Others will be part of militant or terror organizations that will see them as competition or a threat and attack.  

This is a major reason why no countries, even those supposed to be allied with the Palestinian cause have been willing to offer their troops up for such a force. 

The best but also imperfect way is to align with local clans who are interested in peace. the problem with that is it appears that clans are associated directly and indirectly with other organizations. Dogmush is supposedly aligned with al-Qaida. Abu Shabab has had trading ties with ISIS but does not appear to be aligned. Other clans are aligned with the PA, PLFP, PIJ, etc. 

There's a good chance by promoting local clans that you end up with somebody like al-jolani

ip_man_2030

You can forget Tony Blair in this international force. Blame W. Bush and Tony Blair's lies about weapons of mass destruction for the mess in the Middle East. With their lies about weapons (WMD), they gave Iraq to Iran and blame Trump: with his sheer stupidity, he gave Iran, Yemen and Afghanistan to Russia and “communist” China. The US and Israel are doomed!

Benoit_Guillette

Pro-palestinians will support anything that leads to more bloodshed. Then they will have another reason to blame Israel

keepxxs

Hams didn't even attack the IDF acting alone very  often.  They won't dare attack the international coalition.  They are getting their licks in now because they know their time is done.

Hypertension123456

So far, I’ve seen more than half of redditors professing “pro Palestinianism” defend the wave of street executions… unclear whether those are humans or bots; and surely they have no true understanding of what’s good for Palestinians, not true desire for it. 

If those are the ones you’re asking about, I think I’ve answered your question. They support attacks in general, on anyone, anytime.

DiscipleOfYeshua

&gt;  will the pro-Palestinians who supported the attacks of Hamas on Israel also support Hamas and other groups attacking what will be largely Muslim Arab soldiers?

Yes.  They have already supported it in advance in their online presentations.

JeffB1517

This is such an over-broad and hypothetical question as to make little sense. 

Firstly, the vast majority of people who are pro-Palestinian did not support the October 7th attacks. 

Secondly, this is contingent on Arab nations actually sending a peacekeeping force to Gaza. Given that Phase 1 was already starting to break down, needless to say I'm skeptical to see how far this whole peace plan will go. 

Thirdly, who supports what will almost certainly be contingent on the actual circumstances which are going on. If the peacekeeping force comes in and just starts doing nothing but indiscriminately raping Gazan women or something equally horrific, I think any person would be OK with Palestinians (whether Hamas or someone else) pushing that force out of Gaza. Obviously this is an extreme example, but it's meant to demonstrate the point that it's a pointless exercise to try to slot people into various "teams" so far ahead of time that we cannot reasonably predict the events that might come to pass.

A lot of people on the pro-Israeli side seem to have these false perceptions that (i) the pro-Palestinian side is monolithic and (ii) the pro-Palestinian side is unilateral and unconditional in who it supports. This is just not true, and not how humans work. People who sympathize with the Palestinians have reasons for that sympathy, and as such will choose who they sympathize with and what actions they support based on the circumstances of what is actually going on moment-to-moment.

Crymmt

I really hope it does not come to this and that Hamas will disarm as agreed to. However, it would be extremely revealing to see how the world reacts if Hamas continues using Palestinians as human shields, potentially causing international forces to inadvertently harm innocent civilians. Would it be called a genocide with mass protests around the world?

BananaValuable1000

They probably won’t be tasked with disarming Hamas. Take a look at Lebanon. The Un coalition troops there are basically human shields assisting Hezbollah in smuggling and daily operations while simultaneously hindering the Israelis in conducting defense.

ProjectConfident8584

Please have a stronger western influence in the mix.

OperationSelect4065

This is going to be a new s\*\*tshow, a magnificent p\*\*p throwing drama.

Israel, to be blunt, isn't a position to be picky. There is a good chance Israel will be stuck with policing and reconstruction costs, which I believe it should bear the full responsibility.   You break it, you pay for it.

Gaza isn't a recognized state, and it is still under Israeli occupation. The fact that Israel has the right to pick and choose which  troops are allowed in means it is the governing authority of Gaza.

SriMulyaniMegawati

That's when the media reports about every rumor and people chase around them. If you want to minimize those rumor mills, check &amp; verify in the article where the information is from (if it's listed).

Shachar2like

&gt;Find a future for Israelis? A relationship with Israel? Is that an admission Israel is here to stay?

Jordan has had a formal relationship with Israel for the last three decades and an informal cooperation for far longer than that. 

Most of the Muslim world outside of Palestine + about half of the Muslims in Palestine would be perfectly fine with not only  Israel existing, but willing to formally acknowledge Israel as a country like any other under the condition of Israel ending its occupation of the Palestinians territories and accepting an independent Palestinian state. That has, by the way, been publicly communicated by the Jordanian foreign minister (granted not a Muslim himself, but speaking on behalf of 50+ Muslim majority countries) months ago.

JustResearchReasons

Can we not just go a decade without being involved in some desert war? What have we gotten out of the last ones?

Jazzlike_Wind_1

LowExpert2354

Sorry but not our circus. Time for the middle eastern nations to step up.

Oztravels

You can take the Australian out of the sand but you can't take the sand out of Australian

Witty_Hair_8177

No thanks! This war between Israel and Palestinian has been going on since 1948. This truly is a forever war.

Jealous-Hedgehog-734

Born too late to die in the Middle East.

Born too early to die in the Middle East.

Born just in time to die in the Middle East.

Gods be praised.

dauntedpenny71

I'm a supporter of the alliance but this is none of our business

Can't we bribe Trump some other way

tecdaz

If Gaza descends into civil war that's just not our problem. We shouldn't be world policing it. I'm down to send aid, but I'd prefer our soldiers stay out of the sandpit.

Beast_of_Guanyin

Can the people doing the weekly marches go and volunteer?

It’s a win/win. They get to put action to their LARPing and I get a quiet, peaceful CBD again

Advanced-Lake-7354

Sas: Ahh some more deployment in Muslim lands? 


No not like that 

Signal_Possibility80

Why not we send the recently returned ISIS brides that came back from Syria?

SpicySources

It’s not our problem. Nothing to do with us.

gionatacar

As an ex servicemen....LoL what about sorting law and order in let's say downtown Melbourne....inner Darwin???

TimZiziLee69

No Australian troops for Middle East, we couldn't even defend Aus.

olderlonenude

NO! Our taxes shouldn't be wasted on a group of people that destabilized and led to the civil wars in Lebanon and Jordan. Theres a reason no Arab nation helps them. Let them all rot.

ThickDickMullet

So where are the 100 thousand that marched on the bridge🤣🤣 they heading over ??🤣🤣 bellends

johnnymozzo

It will be a launchpad for a war with Iran

tezzawils

No, thank you. 

There's a bunch of neighbours that can deal with that. They need to step up &amp; contribute to peace in their area.

Aussie-Bandit

The third occupation of the war on terror.

Specialist_Matter582

Powerful-Fee-5512

Send no troops, send no money, don't get involved in this.

AdDazzling9189

I wish this was done through the UN and not unilaterally by the US but that's wishful thinking.

ZeTian

Send the pro-Polestine group and protestors to Gaza. They are keen. Or they will protest every weekend in Australia.

Ju0987

Adept-Inspector3865

NOOOOOOOPE - stay TF out of this nonsense Australia. I do not consent.

eggrattle

We will not need to.  All those protesters we saw will head over to stop hamas murdering people. Although they seem strangely silent now as hamas go executing people they do not like.

jiggly-rock

Beneficial-Rub-8049

Send them in Australia loves a good Gaza.

Dry-Bike-9835

We should have no part in this. It is not our region. Leave it to others in the region to deal with this mess.

Strong_Temporary5166

Gaza is now effectively a lawless , failed State. It will be difficult to transition it to any semblance of normality.

River-Stunning

Wonder where the pro-Pal folks will land on Australia getting involved. It’s one thing to shut down a bridge for a day or set up tent cities at the local uni, but if you want lasting peace and a stable Palestine, someone’s got to do actual hard, dangerous work in Gaza.

Sufficient_Tower_366

Cool, lets go help Israel suppress the native people. Gosh it's nice to get to do a bit of colonising again, like old days. 

Can't wait until Albo unleashes his citizen tracking tool and I can supply my search history to the gov and become legally liable for any criticism to dear glorious leader who cannot be questioned because if you do you're obstructionist. /s

The very obvious shitstorm such a thing will cause will become part of justification to break with USA, bet

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alisru

Let’s hope they are used to stop Israel violating international law. Even better if they arrest some war criminals.

MycologistSharp4337

Oh great. More dead Aussies and dead Middle Eastern children for the grand prize of licking America's decaying boot. Gaza needs extensive help but I trust the Trump plan about as far as I could throw Trump

Turkeyduck01

Supporting peace in Gaza using weapons [tested](https://antonyloewenstein.com/books/the-palestine-laboratory-how-israel-exports-the-technology-of-occupation-around-the-world/) on Gazan children.

SexCodex

Jacinta can round up what's inside the machete bins and send that over.

stereosafari

Australian troops should have been in Gaza for the past 20 months, tbh.  Better late than never, I guess?

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