Overall public sentiment is marked by skepticism and disappointment regarding the Eighth Pay Commission. Many express doubts about the government's financial ability to implement meaningful salary increases and perceive the commission as a strategy to distract the public from critical issues and upcoming elections. There is a strong belief that the proposed hikes may be exaggerated or unattainable, contributing to a widespread distrust of the government's transparency and intentions.

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Distinct_Theory2684

Lol. Nope. Min 20% and max 30% ka jump ayega.. 

~Govt. employee

Acekiln

Not true. Chutiye sarkaari naukri pakad lete hain, jhaat bhar ka gyaan hai nai

Jas-winderSingh

Pata nhi. JB tak commision ki report na aaye bharosa na karo. Abhi 18 month lagenge report aane me.

unchangable_name

Are yaar basic pay ko double kardo, DA ko zero kardo aur baki sab same, bas ban gayi new salary

acne_lover1

Kuxh nahi hay mushkil say 70 bhi touch nahi kregi likh k lay lo

Suspicious-Speed7886

Hot_Disk9993

If he is earning 50k inhand now ,after 8th pay inhand will be 60-65k max

MathematicianOk5479

Actually in pay commision the math is that your basic pay will become whatever people are quoting may be 2 times or lets say 2.85 something (which is in the news) times..but people neglect the fact that the extra D.A they get on their basic pay to meet the inflation..it will be totally removed since they adjust salaries according to the latest inflation..so lets say a person has 50k basic so at this point of time he is getting ~57% D.A. so his main salary excluding perks allowances and hra is 50k+26k = 76k but imagine 8th pay commission make salaries 2.5 times(around what people are claiming but i think it will remain somewhat around 2 times)..so now his basic pay is 100k which is 1 lakh..but now he does not get any D.A. so the net increase is 24k(100k-76k) on 76k..which is around ~ 32% increase..but the real joy of pay commision will be seen after 2-3 years when the person start getting D.A. on new basic..

udgaon

People used to have the same thoughts before 7th CPC was rolled out and they were disappointed to the core later.

Beautiful_Sort5736

2015me  7th pay commission me to effective pay bump 20 percent tha, ab freebie culture me tum usse jyada expect krre.
Usko bolo an pasho ki video na dekhe, 50 s bdh ke 65 hojani h bs uski

FarRadio7281

My college friend was also saying that the salary will increase 2.86 times but that's now how it works I guess , i don't have complete knowledge but I read somewhere in news that a person earning 1lakh may get an increase of 20-30% and somewhat similar for others too I guess

Traditional-Sea-9249

Tumhara dost tumhe bana raha hai. Department mein mai bhi hun, aur yahan kisiko hope nahi hai 50% hike ki bhi. Most probably 30% hike hogi in-hand. People forget ki new pay commission ke baad basic pay bhale badh jaye but DA 0 ho jata hai.

InevitableTurnip8717

Who says , from 2028 onwards 8th pay will apply … 
Now getting 75k so yearly it increase 1.5k so 78k 
And I thinking it going to hit  only 15-20k hike ,so approx 93-95k ,don’t keep on lives that we will get crossed 1 lakh !! Just tactics ,they also saying that HR will cancel and DA will increase kind of !! We can’t say until 2027 end

No_Report_634

Available_Paper_6281

remember after basic pay gets revised in the new cpc the d.a. gets reset to 0%. 

mSkA123

Warm-Manager7230

Defiant_Duty_9817

Super_Sukhoii

15-20% badegi bhai at max. Reason for such percentage is inflation is very less as compared to earlier congress Era. Second govt is already struggling to pay current salaries. Third even at 18% it amounts to 3 years worth of increment.

Classic-Nature-4449

Kuch nahi milega...bas bihar election ke pahle lolipopdikha rahe hai...jyda se jyada 10-15% hike

ken100ken

Meri 55k in-hand hai. I will consider myself lucky agar 70k pahuch gayi.

A_V3ry_Nice_Guy

AkashRathod01

Not true the increase in salary is around 20 to 30 percent

Good_Letter8921

Not true, the basic pay component of the salary will be doubled (almost) but the DA will be reset to zero which is nowadays at 58% of Basic Pay

So in conclusion the salary will rise up to 30%-50% at max, if someone was earning 50000 it will rise to 65000-75000

That is what the trend has been for the past 3 Pay Commissions 1996, 2006 &amp; 2016 respectively, the government can change the cycle and increase the salary for a good amount but I doubt they will

totallyhellfell

Government paisa kha se layegi?

Already Government employees eat up 5 Lakh crore out of some 40-45 Lakh crore budget. They waived off income tax for Delhi election at a loss of 1 Lakh crore, have reduced GST and are under a loan of 150 Lakh crore.

I don't know how they'll manage it.

ShittyHuman1999

The fitment factor will be around 2. The DA will come down to 0. So there will be a net increase of 15 to 20%. Everything else is media hype and click bait for reels.

roy2488

HighMidLows

bibilubabaliboo

Wrong hopes. For those at Lv. 7 in X cities ( Not counting those who get 13 month salary or 20 percent extra) are getting 82.4k and let's say at 2028 8 Pay gets implemented those in service would already have got 3 increments from now. (New joinee of 2024 CGL would have their basic 49k.) Now assuming for total fresher even with fitment factor of 1.96 ( which I am hearing) 

New basic = 44.9k * 1.96 = 88k approx. 
Now DA= 0 here (DA refreshes to 0) 
HRA = 0.24 * 88= 21.1k
Add TptA = 9k (assuming so as it's near 6k now for X cities) 
Total gross = 118k
Now Remove CGHS = Rs 650 and NPS = 8.8k , total deduction of 9.5k 
Total Net (before tax) = 108.5k 
Now as this is in tax slab = Remove taxes (75k yearly or 6.5 approx monthly. 
Now in hand would be = 1.02LPM

So approx increase of 23-24 percent. Let's assume it to between 20-30 for now. 
So your friend would be getting bw 65-70k after all this increase, not 90k

Fun-Meringue-7451

Thik hai sab lakhpti ban jaoge congratulations govt employee

Careful-alfa-9158

Dekh bhai....do cheezein hamesha yaad rakhna....jab tak Medhak hai, tab tak central govt employees ka vo koi bhala nahi karega aur na hi hone dega...ya to is baar bhi waisa hi katega jaisa isne 7th pay commission lagane ke time pay matrix wali bkcd karke kata tha ya agar ye koi dhang ka fayda sach mein kara raha hoga to ye ise loksabha elections tak kheench ke le jayega.....dekho...abhi to committee ko sirf manzoori mili hai....banne mein aur phir uska poora draft taiyaar kar ke sarkaar ko saunpne mein 12-18 maheene tak lagte hain....jiska matlab ye matter 2027 ke last tak ya 2028 ki shuruaat tak ko khinchega hi khinchega....uske baad sarkaar ki manzoori milne mein bhi 6 maheene ka time lagta hai....yani matter 2028 ke mid ya last tak jayega...aur phir kuchh hi maheenon baad 2029 mein elections hain....apne medhak ji kuch bhi aiwain nahi karte....har ek cheez ka fayda uthana jaante hain...aur agar unhein kisi tarah se koi fayda nahi mil raha to vo koi kaam karte hi nahi....

mindreader00770

Iske dost ne kuch nhi bola aisa … iska koi friend ya relative govt job mein hoga usi ka idea lene ke liye isne yaha post kiya hai news ya videos wagerah mein hype dekh ke

Sad_Mention8055

Few_Detail_7764

Evening-Mission-3768

Yeah it is, more than double (its 2.58x or something)

jaat-risky

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Please stop spreading fake news and false narrative. There is yet no official new on what percentage of hike the 8th pay commission will be. The recommendation committee that recommends the pay revision is yet to be seated. As the government after the recommendation of the said commitee decide if they shall or not accept the recommendation. YES the government can even not decide to give the recommende hike.
So stop with your 140% crap.

EMPIRE_STRUCK_BACK

Lol no. The last CPC hike was around 23.5 %. This time it is expected to be lower than that. So it will be like 15- 20 % max.

bikbar1

Government will go bankrupt if they give 140% rise. Already government pays decent enough salary.

[deleted]

Rage bait. Who's saying that salary will increase by 140%?  Do some research man. It'll increase by 10-15% hardly.

Consistent_Box_9455

8th pay commission is only meant for government employees,for rest of 98% of the population no salary raise

Character_Trifle_801

Lol no. The DA is around 55%. When new pay commission comes the DA will come down to 0.

AIM-120-AMRAAM

Sounds like a way to incentivize government workers, but honestly, it feels pretty pointless.

sujobits

I know this is fake but they deserve it . 

Only people who have worked are government employees. I mean visit any government office and see for yourself - Their positive way of talking, being straight forward about process , not hassling you to give them something extra . 

On a serious note , we do need better pay , better gears and better training for our police forces . A better trained police force that knows how to interact with public can solve so many of our problems.

luciferrjns

A sarkari naukar here.
On a lighter note, while I was sitting in the bunker on LC being bombarded by Pakistani artillery and surrounded by drones I personally felt my pay is not enough for the task. But let me assure you nobody is seeing 140% increase in salary, just can't see it happening...

Vahiyadh

Ye mc it cell wale hi faila rhe hia🤣🤣🤣everyone knows govt ko kuch dena ni h public ko aise chu banao

Low_Yesterday2448

140%.. agar ye hua to mai heart attack pe mar jaunga ... bhai aisa IMPOSSIBLE hai .. mai  ek govt employee hoon aur ye bol rha hoon

Repulsive_Sky5521

Let me calculate bro:   
1. now the DA is roughly 55-60%.   
2. Fitment Factor might be around 2 times of the current basic salary.  
3. When the Basic is increased the DA is mereged herwwith and the DA becomes Default i.e. ZERO.   
4. TA might be say 2 times as well (max and I don't think that TA will be this much. TA might be 1.5 times basss).   
5. HRA is currently 27% but will be brought back to 14% when new pay starts.  
so total Salary will be New Basic (2 X Basic now) + DA (ZERO at the start) + HRA (14% of the new Basic).   
ab khub calculate kar lo... So ye sab gimmick pe mat padho.

Its decisive strike against poor tax payers

Governemnt staff without work ( Exception soliders ) with unlimited Bribe and life long pension

Always partonized by BJP

Now big salary hike

Is BJP against tax payers 

Middle class are going to suffer due to poor policies

Logical_League8088

There is also a thing called as Attracting talent.

These-Location-1689

Logical-Fun-1538

Koi kitna gawar ho skta hai. Last time overall hike bs 14-15% kuki da already 120% + tha and FF 2.57 kia tha.

Is time 55 hai jo abhi and FF probably 1.9 rhe ya isse km. Da commission ke bad zero ho jaiga. 

10 sal me ek bar payment commission aata hai usme bhi salary sirf 20-30 percentage badhti hai. Itne me bhi logo ke aag lg jati hai. Private me exponential hike ho rhe, usse koi lena dena ni hai. 

Aise rage bait post dalne se pehle thoda padh le mere bhai.

Realistic-Flatworm29

Kaha se yeh sab false propaganda le ate ho?Gross salary won't increase more than 5%,neither it had increased to that extent in the past.Basic salary increase does not always translate into gross salary increase,as DA HRS etc is subsumed

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Post Title: 8th Pay Commission: Estimated Revised Salaries And Allowances For Government Employees

Author: nerdy_ace_penguin

Post Body: Basic pay hikes from 18k to  51k. Is this hike justified? That's around 3X jump. Now the lowest peon in Central Government will be earning 70K atleast. I feel like Government employees are overpaid and their salary should be below private sector, as they enjoy more job security. Yes I am jealous. 

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Majority of government employees already earn less then their counterparts.


See the amount of responsibility given to high ranking military officials, police personals , adminstrative officials would translate to crores worth of annual package in the private sector.

Also it is common to hear stories of private companies poaching PSB/PSU employees by giving them 3-4 times of their current salary.



This move would also discourage corruption by government officials

WorkOk4177

The numbers are bogus. I being an employee of Central Government expect a fitment factor not more than 2 to 2.1. That is the maximum I think government would be giving us. 

For eg on a Level 10, with fitment factor of 2 the basic pay would rise from Rs 56,100 to Rs 1,12,200. 

And I am damn sure to incorporate this increased salaries, Government would cut out on other allowances for eg. HRA (which when pay is revised is at 8%,16% and 24% to some low percentage say 3%,8% and 13%). So yes do expect an increment in salary but it won't be more than Rs 10,000 - Rs 15,000 at max for Level 10 employee.

External_Chance

DA becomes 0 (currently around 50% of basic) and these guys get only 3% hikes. So it’s more like a 2x jump after 10 years of 3% hikes.

Ehh_littlecomment

I have worked for 7 years in a subordinate office to a Ministry as a Group ‘B’ officer recruited through the SSC exam. I quit that job, did my MBA and now work in Consulting( again work a lot with government ministries).

95% of my previous office would not even put .5 hours of tangible work in a day. They will just chill or punch in and leave. Roam around and come and punch back in the evening. 5% like me were slogging the whole day. A large hike is an absolute waste of taxpayers money. Even now when go for meetings I see junior staff having 2-3 hours of lunch. 

Performance based systems are important as 2 people on the same level might differ a lot in quality. Till then a lot of useless people will be paid in excess of 1 lakh after this pay commission.

Hot_Bee2591

That's not happening, this govt has no money to fill the existing job openings. Some of them got filled because of the elections last year. at the most it will be doubled.

Appropriate-ASS-824

CareerLegitimate7662

"Indian railways recovers only 57% of the ticket rates charged to passengers, kn average"


Ofcourse bloody yes!!  If you employ and pay sarkari babus more than what they do at their jobs, this is bound to happen.

Old-One-6255

My dad is a nuclear scientist at BARC and gets paid peanuts . When he was sent to Cern in a special delegation for the hadron collider, he was offered work there , at that point the salary he would get there in a month was 2x of what he would earn in a year at BARC.

This nation is an absolute crap state when it comes to paying and hiking salaries of those that really matter. I am pretty sure the 8th commission pay hikes for class 1 would absolutely be meagre again .

And the low shit clerks would take the majority pie

Uddhav_Rana_Thqc

This is based on news showing fitment factor of 2.86, randomly increasing it from 2.57 which was used in 7th pay commission but what don’t they consider is the actual increase instead of just seeing the number of 2.57, so for example when a factor of 2.57 was considered, DA at the time was already 125% (1st jan 2016) therefore basic + DA already amounted to 2.25 of basic at the time and it was increased to 2.57, a increase of 0.32 or 32%, so actual salary raised was 32%, not 257% at that time. 
Similarly, we can assume hike of 30%-35% this time as well. As of 1st jan 2025, DA is 55% and it will probably be hiked to 61-62% by 1st jan 2026, assuming 2 hikes of 3%. So basic + DA comes out to 1.61 and hike of 30-35% would take it to 1.91-1.92, hike would not be 2.86 as shown in news where they are just increasing the earlier 2.57 (when DA was very high) number to some random 2.86 or something but based on current basic + DA

likes_nothing

manly_trip

OP has no idea what he is talking about? No one's getting their salary tripled. At best 10k increase. At best.

PrestigiousBad7125

It's how the system works,1%+9% secured rest go to hell and pay us tax for ur living

dasalokkumar

Where are you getting these numbers from? 18k to 51k ? And which peon is getting 70k? Peon currently falls under level pay 1 which has starting basic of 18k and even at a fitment factor of 1.9 their basic will become 34200+ hra which will come around 40k in X cities like Mumbai after deducting NPS. Is 40k too much? Any fitment factor beyond 2 - 2.2 is unrealistic!

Sky_Dragon22

Can someone tell me when this will be implemented? 
Like from 2026 January?

Livid_Opening5338

I hope your words come true 😅. Expecting some good hike. Actually you are not seeing the dark phase. We have worked a lot initially to clear the competition and get in the service. Also the hikes in other years are not at all attractive. The only hike we get in good amount is during pay commissions. That too only basic pay increases. DA starts from 0 again. Net take away salary will be increased by a small amount only. That’s the fact. We are also jealous about the salary you people get while switching companies 🤣. Always other side will be greener 😝

Grand_Ad1742

pure_cipher

Why are you bothered about other sectors getting paid more? I myself work in the private sector and I have no reason to think how much they earn. Just let them enjoy what they get, let's work on ourselves.

Mounamsammatham

Actually it's better to give them good money so they don't get motivated to do corruption.

souravbaranwal

Slogging for years to crack an exam that pays peanuts...i don't get the obsession with govt jobs

sharedevaaste

3x the pay for not doing any work no accountability and no transperancy and infinite money under the table. No wonder people are willing to die for peon jobs and UPSC coaching is booming all time high. The infinite greed and corruption will be the death of this country. 

ChampionJealous8097

Basic pay hiked from 18k to 51k. Is this hike justified? That's around 3X jump. Now the peon / driver in Central Government will be earning 70K at least. I am all for dignity of labor, but 70K for a peon job ? come on. I feel like Government employees are overpaid and their salary should be below/at least at par with the corresponding level at private sector, as they enjoy more job security. Yes I am jealous.PS - Government employees are over paid at low levels and under paid at top. 2 laksh for IAS officer is low, 70k for a peon is high. Pay should be proportion to one's skill set and responsibilities.

These questions need to be answered from within oneself. Don't seek answers from outside

90% of IT sector is just UNCLE SAM sweatshop ( USA ) and be ready to take calls at 8pm/9pm even 11pm, most of the times you can say no but not always. pay would be good but then hit 35+ and even 40 and then see for why govt job shines at that point.

theprabz15

8th Pay Commission ke baad Level-1 ki salary bhi 50k ho jayegi joki kisi bhi average IT job ke starting salary se kafi jada hai.

log bolte ki switch karke bahut salary bad jaati hai private me - yes this is true lekin usko karne me bahut problems aati hai.

shinobixgin

It's the job security and perks.

Even if salary and growth is less than private sector, the wlb is great. Koi maaikalaal Saturday Sunday kaam nahi karwa sakta. Plus ek baar job milgyi toh lifetime rahegi, private sector me toh layoffs hote h lol 


If you're someone with great mind and skill , toh private me hi rehna chahiye coz with growth , salary increase hoti jaegi . You'll get bonuses too.

If you're someone who want a decent salary with great wlb , government job will give you that.

Have you cracked any govt exam? or are you in private sector?

gladiator-0905

A short and crisp answer without any preaching is YES. Majority of private employees barely earn even 30k and suffer from long working hours with no WLB. I watched an interview of an economist who said that barely 3% of the salaried workforce earns 50k. So, even low-paying government jobs with WLB and job security are more lucrative.

genome_walker

The job security and perks of a govt job is what makes it stand out from others. Although the salary is low compared to the private sector, the WLB and the working hours are fixed in most departments i.e 8 working hours and Saturday and Sundays are holidays. I have even seen people leave their high paying central govt job for a state govt job as they can stay near their hometown and home state.

Fred_Murdock

You can't please society every time...... I know no. of people who are doing good and are happy without a government job.....Go for yourself buddy

Paramagneticz

those who r saying salary is low in gvt ,they should compare with same sector like (pvt bank to gvt bank, pvt AE to gvt AE)not with software industry,

Flat_Arachnid9114

I think it’s mainly the security it provides. Like after a certain period you could stop and you’d get pension and the increments are also given periodically so you are not begging for salary hike.

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Embarrassed_Price707

I have seen people pvt(snapdragon) to govt switch for less almost half salary, have seen govt to mba to pvt switching for more salary, depends on the person.

If your pvt job is prone to layoff due to AI, imagine being at age 38 with family to feed and loans, emi, then you get laid off.

Also, govt salary increment is so slow and infrastructure is so bad that you'll slowly become senile. 

In pvt it's fast paced, if pay is more than 1lpm then definitely be in pvt.

akasjh

Depends the kind of job you have in government. IAS, IPS, income tax, ED, home ministry etc are anyday better than IIM and IIT graduate tags. 
You want a rolls royce because very few people have it and it is a status symbol not because of the performance.  Humans strive for social power, money is just a tool.

dopeprince8

Guys a govt doc here. Leaving my job to pursue post graduation. Don't see any work satisfaction here since the infrastructure is poor and most of the times medicines aren't available on time. Unable to treat patients correctly even though I know the treatment due to lack of proper facilities.
I feel I can do more justice in private.

Active_Claim6519

depends upon you.

if you can earn more in private sector, why stay in govt job?

GroupFun5219

I think it's because a corporate employe can give government exam, but an government employ does not have req skills to join IT or any other given corporate field and those who could have the skill set are ex corporate worker. Who wouldn't have left that field if thay were satisfied in there domain.

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