Public sentiment towards the judicial appointment process in India is largely negative, characterized by frustration over the collegium system and perceived nepotism and corruption within the judiciary. While there are calls for reform and accountability in judicial appointments, many commenters express deep skepticism about the integrity of the legal system, leading to a prevalent feeling of hopelessness regarding justice.

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TransportationOk3825

Judges are humans right? In a country where almost all politicians, govt employees, journalists, capitalists are corrupt what makes you think judges are any different.

Sure_Buddha

Yes and definitely yes. Why do you think top layers charge huge amount of fees( lakhs) for one hearing ?  Thumb rule no government body is for citizen.

Intelligent-Durian-4

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Atul Subhash's case directly accused a district court judge of asking for a 5 lakh bribe to settle, and judge taunted him into committing suicide when he refused. Not sure what's the aftermath of this case though. Also not sure if this allegation was proved.

This is one example that kinda sticked to memory. Means it is not impossible that judges are immune to bribes, we just do not know the scale of it. How frequent/common is it, it never becomes public data even if proven in the court. So all the speculations and comments can be true but can't be proven with statistics.

So conclusion is, judges can be bribed / are being bribed / asking proactively. But we can never know if it is a common practice or a rarity.

dushty14

Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely - Lord Acton

ArrogantPublisher3

Anyone anywhere can be bribed. But when it comes to judges, it's far more risky and most of the time, it's not worth it on the part of the judge. Because you can always appeal the judge's decision. The higher the station of the judge, the riskier it becomes to bribe them.

But that doesn't mean they can't be influenced. Politics happens beyond the court room of a judge, and those politics do influence them. But that's why appeals exist. 

It's exactly because their decisions can be reversed that people don't bribe the judge, but influence decisions in other ways. Evidence tampering is one such way, though just as difficult. 

The most common way to influence a decision however, which is far easier and a lot more common, is to bribe the opponent's lawyer to throw the case.

The lawyer circle is both big and small at the same time. Most lawyers know other lawyers, judges included, either during college, school, normal life and the most common, because they would have worked together. Either on the same footing or as a senior and a junior.

Kapil sibal is one of the most senior lawyers in the country, some, if not most of the hc judges are some of his juniors. Ethics dictate that he does not appear before them, and if he does, the judge recuses themselves so another may hear the matter in fear of bias, which would kill their career. 

The higher up the ladder of Indian law practice and judiciary you go, the less they care for money, and the more they care for their own position, future and career. 

My career is still young, and I know judges forming part of the district judiciary, I know the children of judges of the hc and senior district judiciary with some of them my friends. And the fact that it is as close knit as it is, is exactly why it is difficult to bribe judges.

afromace7

Yes judges are bribed. However, this is mostly at the District Civil/ Sessions court and lower. In high courts this practice is more discreet and very difficult to find. I have seen fantastic judges like Justice Dere and Justice Deshmukh of Bombay HC being unfazed by senior advocates representing clients who are in top 20 Influential businessmen of India. 

This is not to say they can't or won't take bribes (Justice Yashwant Varma is in the highlight for this very thing). 

Aa far as respect for Kapil Sibal and whether "they are just another lawyer". No he is not. He is a "designated senior advocate". Every SC and HC designates certain advocates who fulfill a few criteria as senior advocates. They get respect instantly by virtue of being a senior advocate. Kapil Sibal gets a whole lot more because he was also the president of SC Bar Association, a well known politican and one of the sharpest lawyers in India. You may dislike who he represents in court, but there is a reason he is one of the highest paid lawyers. He is just that good. Naturally these SC judges pale in comparison to his understanding of law. So they respect him or are friends with him.

Zephyros2

My mother-in-law is a criminal lawyer and has been practicing for over 25 years in both the District Court and the High Court. She has come across countless heart-wrenching cases. Sadly, many judges sell themselves faster than a flash sale, even in the Supreme Court. You can only imagine what the outcomes must be like in the local courts.

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Mediocre-Review-6212

Yes, lower court judges gets money to pass the decree. If you want to influence the decision, you will have to pay more money. Can't say about higher courts.

ashwin313

Yes, absolutely. I come from legal background and bribing is a sure shot way to win a case.

tatti_wala_baba

Sa244

vaiku07

Single_Quiet5732

A LOT like a LOT. And they are the most protected of all the people in the corrupt system. Everyone from civil servants to politicians are caught somehow, but judges, nah

GonzagaGrizzley

There is literally a rate card for all officials, no matter which profession. But with that being said, I've come across honest officials too. 

I've heard it from so many people that there have been honest ministers too but when they do or try to do a good job, they are replaced or fired soon. They are forced to be corrupt. 

If you can't beat them, join them.

That-Technician6248

Yes, and I will give you an example of how it actually works from what I have personally witnessed. 

I was fortunate enough that I attended a wedding of a high court judge's daughter, there were a lot of people from the legal fraternity present at the wedding, what caught my eye was this one particular senior advocate whom I have seen frequently in that judge's courtroom. I saw him giving the judge's daughter a brand new Mercedes car as a wedding gift. Doesn't sound like bribe right? But do note that this advocate gets favourable orders from this judge very often! That's how the bribe money is laundered

slimau5

My dad is a judge in industrial tribunal and money is circulated heavily via lawyers.

The lawyer’s association can screw the judges if needed be. So, both judges and lawyers they work in perfect harmony. Tun meri khuja mein teri khujata hun.

Nobody200258

Yes but not all judges can be bribed. There are huge consequences if a judge is caught plus there's always an option of going to the higher court. Your opponent cannot go on bribing every judge till the Supreme Court. Also, it depends on your case too. If you have clear evidence and are following up with your lawyer and the judge regularly, there are very less chances that the judge can be bribed to pass a favourable order as they have to document their reasonings in the judgements.

Feeling_Chance6667

System is connected w money so higher the post higher the bribe well looking at that one traffic cops 600cr worth of property in dubai a simple traffic cop i can't even estimate the digit properly

Odd_Row_3207

I would find it more surprising if you would have said ki Judge don't take a bribe 😜

iMeLoneWolf

Rowdy_Rathod

India me sab bikta hai bas boli lagni chahiye

Successful_Map1

In short:- yess! More often then we think

ToeNecessary4079

Badassbasty

it should be very cheap. And if you belong to a ruling party, then I guess they basically ask you before passing the judgement.

Kancha_Cheena

notchoosenone

FunnyArmadillo1773

tardigrade_phd

Yes 💯 In my case he was the opposite party was big builder

NoRazzmatazz8622

Yes they are bribed, also for getting bail quickly you need to pay heavily . Justice is a mockery in India

Odd-Mixture-6671

Paddy051

The rot of corruption has crept into every institution in india. This state we are in is called systemic corruption. So your assumption if judges are bribed has some merit. 

How is it that some lawyers get priority hearings and listing? That's just the start to the list of questions. Not worth getting into details so will leave it at that.

Dark_Knight_Desi

Bail : 5cr normal case, pocso 10-15cr, Corruption- 17cr onwards

gompgo

_fatcheetah

no shit  
also lawyers like Kapil Sibal, KK Venugopal, Tushar Mehta for that matter are definitely not "just another lawyer", they're some of the most experienced senior advocates and best in their field

JERRY_XLII

Yes, very common in dowry and settlement cases.

Longjumping-Green351

very very famous , a biiiiig mining barron offered 40c to even 100c just for a bail

Radiant_Historian854

India main har koi bribe leta hain, Anna Hazare bhi liya Bribe morcha karne ko abhi so Gaya hain kumbh karan.

moab911

Odd-Yogurtcloset5072

Jealous_Tie_2347

You can appeal to a higher court in most cases. Unless your opponent can buy a supreme court judge (nearly impossible, or in that case they'll have better ways to deal with you IYKWIM) they're just wasting money.

itsrubnillug

From pm to peon everyone is corrupt. Recently 15 crore in cash in one big judges house, just imagine what is going in lower courts.

I don't know what they are called but there's this gang of clerks who decide which judge gets which file and in which order. Sleaziest bunch.

Iliketoeatsweets

cant comment on other things but Mr Sibal is being respected because he is a knowledgeable lawyer not all lawyers are like it only select few including those whose name you have never heard coz they dont come in media that often but well respected in the industry

Sigma-__-Male

Firstly, as there are only 15 judges per million citizens, that number needs to be increased at least two times. 

Secondly, stricter timelines for deciding cases must be adopted and unnecessary delays must mandatorily be met with the imposition of real costs. Similarly, interim injunctions and stays on proceedings of the Subordinate Courts must be finally disposed off with urgency. 

Thirdly, appeals, revisions, and other remedies (except 32 and 226) to the High Courts and the Supreme Court must be curtailed by statute and / or specialised tribunals should be used to reduce workload on Constitutional Courts. 

Fourthly, ADR mechanisms need to be made worthwhile to reduce the reliance on Courts. 

Fifthly, the State must adopt policies to reduce litigation initiated by it and the spirit behind provisions like Section 80, CPC must be followed in cases against the State.

_UBERRIMA_FIDES

Judges nahi hai bhai.

 There are more than 3 crore pending cases that's one case for every 50 people in this country the amount of judges pale in comparison to the sheer number of cases.

In lower court there is requirment of thousands of judges which are not sanctioned. 

In high courts there are 370 vacant judge positions against a sanctioned strength of 1100+ that means over 30% of high judge seats are vacant.

Plus judiciary has fixed holiday stretch (at least 40-50)  in which only a very small vacation bench sits. 

 Kaise hoga kaam?

Ok_Simple_459

msaussieandmrravana

End corruption + enforce rules and laws as they are for EVERYONE.

tarunag10

I wonder what stops GOI increase number of judges ?

kthdeep

LLM models should be of help. Some companies already working in this direction.

devraj_aa

Competitive-Pride-10

Put hefty penalty on the lawyer who’s asking for continuance, irrespective of the reason!

I’ve had my fair share of courts n ‘dates’ n lawyers et el. My father fought a case on my behalf, n it went all the way up to The Supreme Court of India. Once a wise guy told me that “courts are meant to get justice” is a misnomer. Courts are there only for the livelihood of judges n lawyers n everyone else working in courts!

ExplanationOld4473

if everybody follows rules and constitution then no jujji court kacheri required.

Bigger law firms and competitive so they finish off the cases as fast as possible and even settle out of courts because independent lawyers many times just drag the cases for fees and hope in mean time judges are increased at least fill up the vacancy.

raj_abhay

Decentralisation. Emphasis on community based settlement whereevr possible, atleast in civil cases.
Overtime for judges. No winter and summer vacation. Annual final judgement targets for each judge. Promotion only on the achievement of target. 
Increase the number of judges.
Make judiciary politically free.
No appointments for the retired judges, till two general elections, or two central govt changes after the retirement.

anwerified

1. There need to be preasure on judges to clear the cases like any employe in private sector has defined timelines for work to be finished. Then judges will put preasures on both parties to attend. If one party try to delay by not attending penalize that fellow by not fining Rs600, make Rs60,000. 

2. You need over all Manager to moniter judges to make sure they clear cases fast. 

  
Delaying justice is denaying justice.

  
Somebody occupied our plot by dismantling compound wall. It took 10 years. It ended not because of judgement, it was because of the person who occupied died. Every time there was court date, he is used to submit doctor certificate and not attended.

Ragnarok-9999

Firstly Mi lords need to descend to earth to deal with us commoners

Absolutely no adjournment if someone in Jail, hearing should finish and judgement pronounced. If that is not possible grant bail. 
Other cases adjournment only 3 times. Pending cases disposed automatically.

Dry_Philosopher_4817

make law book tiny and too the point with simple words.
reduce loop holes. use AI to make it compact.

india has 'world's largest' law. i think this is the core issue.

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At first I need you to understand that the police are a well-funded, well-organized mafia. They work in tandem with higher powers to run a system which makes their lives easier and especially for the ruling class. If you try to dent it, you'll be facing the full wrath of their might.

From the few instances I've witnessed, some horrible as inhumane, I'd say it's better to stay away from them as much as possible.

1. All parties will oppose this for the reason they exist in the first place.

2. Innocent fools would support this or bravehearts who have nothing to lose.

3. Even though I would support it personally, I'd not dare to speak up as India doesn't have an absolute freedom of speech and even if there is, I don't wanna be a target of a mafia which is central to India's system.

4. Only Gen Z on the road will make it happen.

FrustratedIndianG

OP

You really live in delusional lala land 😁

naturalizedcitizen

taztazdip

1. Politicians,corrupt officials and actors from within the police who'd have something to lose from their powers getting curbed.

2. Support how exactly?If it's implicit support,I'd wager quite a lot of people. If it's the "get and out there,protest and put yourself at risk" kind of support,a few people at best-mostly people who have nothing to lose and/or are malleable.

3. Implicitly,yes. If I was in a position of power and authority at the time of the campaign,I might do more.

4. (i)We all know how deep the corruption in India reaches-it's a systemic problem. Which means it's not something isolated groups working on their own in different parts of the country can solve. We need a concerted effort and this is where the problem arises-people are apathetic and don't care deeply enough in general about how police brutality in some distant place destroyed someone's life.

(ii)Why?They are too preoccupied with their own lives-how to put food on their table,how to save up enough money to buy that bike they've been eyeing so their daily commute becomes less taxing,how to finish paying off that loan they took to help cure their ailing parents,etc-all these situations I've listed are immediate to their lives and thus take greater priority for them than someone getting offed in because the police were paid off and/or to have a hair trigger temperament.

All people generally do when they hear about such tragic cases are express their sadness over the incident,hurl a few curses and move on with their lives.

(iii)How to get people to get off their asses and actively work to end this? Make the problem relatable and immediate to their lives. That is how you get the masses to effect any change when their overlords won't do it voluntarily-whether to revolt against and overthrow a corrupt regime or to protest against unfair laws and injustices to change them. In each of these examples,people realized or were made to realize that their particular problems had started negatively affecting their lives or would start to do so at any given time-that they could be next on the chopping block.

To that end,we need to educate people on this subject and show them how they are extremely vulnerable too-that all the happiness and contentment in the world won't mean jackshit if it could be taken away at any time and without prior warning. Make the people fear it,for fear will eventually lead to resentment and that will make them itch to change the status quo and consequently,you'll find you have more supporters and comrades standing shoulder to shoulder with you when you get out there to promote your views.

Social media has made this both hard and easy at the same time. We can use it to propagate our campaign and reach more people while also running counter information campaigns against entities who'd seek to quell any movement. We'd need to play it smart,however-people tend to shut down when presented with too much information.

Lastly,you WILL need to be ready to hand out bribes/do favours/do expedient shit to get certain people on your side.It is hypocritical but this isn't a perfect world and to beat the people you're opposing,you'll need to play dirty becuase they certainly will be.

NeuMaster369

Spiritual_Piccolo793

Indian courts are an open breeding ground for corruption. If only we improved the indian courts that alone can increase economic activity in our country.

Agitated-Plane-7538

This is nothing unusual. 98% of Judges are corrupt to the bone. What else you guys expecting.

Vilsang1

Won't be surprised if she gave the idea to the woman in question. 

4 crore hain uske paas toh 1 kyu maang Rahi hai 3 maang 2 par settle kara dungi 50 lakh mujhe dena.

What is the process to take action against corrupt judges?

exploring_lifenow

google delhi ka darinda
that person is innocent and girl fled abroad only after few days

Old_Application_5722

Who gets justice in india? Poor people definitely aren't.

The false case accuser just has to go to court the judges and lawyers will get naked for them and will encourage them to file such such cases to extort more and get cut of it.

The poor man's su.cide note mentioned the greedy judge Rita kaushik who laughed at his situation 
The corrupt officer Peshkar madhav who was tryna take a bribe to lower the amount infront of the damn judge
The evil wife Nikita, 
her mother,
her uncle
and her brother.
It was a planned murder... In his s.icide note he specifically mention how he was instigated to commit s.icide by everyone in the court room.. 

So much was viswaguru 🇮🇳 where a rich rapist gets to roam free, where a accuser just has to be a woman to get all the greedy law enforcers licking her toes.

Indian judiciary is a shit show. One of my friend got married to a bad nut and she barely lived in the house for 10 days. Lot of gali galoch later left. Been over a year since she left and the guy is just sitting with no hope for his future and scare that anyday he would be behind bars and mind you this is a gem of a person with a very high paying job in a top IT company. The things he has told me in the past year makes me wish k kisi k dushman ko bhi na jana pade court.
The very first thing judges usually do is to tear your petition file so advocate always takes two copies of petition bdw.

Spirited6428

And people often wonder why there are these uber rich people spending crores and crores buying houses and not moving out of the country but I tell you it's these people who thrive in a corrupt nation such as ours where the abuse of power and money is not just limited to the Judiciary system. 

That's the same reason the top 1% or whatever would never speak against the system, the same system which often works in their own favour.

soloforsolong

Goes to show how low is the value of order and justice in our country.

A similar post would've caused a havoc in better countries like the US or EU.

For most of us, we will see this post, comment on it and forget. Accepting the power abuse.

God, no wonder people want to leave.

https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/124VwQpDEL6aHO__s259q2A95DaJ7FGRC

Eastern-Weekend5407

Jaate jaate 2-3 logo ko nipta k jana chiye tha 🥰

Pretz3l_

[https://www.transparency.org/en/press/police-then-judiciary-most-corrupt-public-institutions-in-south-asia-reveal](https://www.transparency.org/en/press/police-then-judiciary-most-corrupt-public-institutions-in-south-asia-reveal)

An acquaintance told me even SC judges take hefty sums to settle cases... All are Chandrachuds. 😒

newbaba

The only people in position of power who are not corrupt in India are those who are already dead.

AdvKartikay

Judges are like... Tumhare jaise 100 aate hai and 100 jaate hai.. duniya ko koi farak nahi padta ...

ScooterNinja

Sometimes I don't even feel bad for Politicians, They do treat the system like it should be treated.

Taking matters in ur hands sounds more practical than this mockery.

Judiciary is the most corrupt department in India.

Hurry_Tasty

Yes. Once a lawyer told me judiciary (including the judges) is the most corrupt organisation in India. Even politicians stand no chance.

Virtual-Techy

My friend is recently going through a divorce

And she finally managed to get the amount they had paid as dowry back from the guy and his family 

But the court is the middlemen and they are asking for a % of that amount and only then they will release it to them 

And that process has been on hold from quite some time

Chaltahaikoinahi

The judge is heavily biased. Women judges are good but some can really use their deep rooted misandry.

YawnSambandh

yesss. you pay you get favourable decisions, district courts are corrupt to the core.

Try dealing with lower court (anything below high court) , they are as corrupt as anything. 
It's just that higher courts attract media attention, so they do corruption in a sophisticated way .

UnicornWithTits

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This is s\*\*\*\*t

Adventurous-Button30

The entire judiciary is corrupt, from the police to judges. The average man needs to stay away from legal cases as much as possible. Cause its a mental and financial torture.

thegamer720x

Quirkywizard16



Isn't the perfect time to roll out my BATMAN version??

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