Public sentiment reveals significant frustration and skepticism regarding the Election Commission of India (ECI), with widespread accusations of bias towards the ruling BJP. Many commenters perceive the Congress party's allegations as desperate attempts to deflect blame due to its electoral failures. There's a strong call for accountability and electoral integrity, alongside criticism of both the Congress leadership and the media's role in perpetuating misinformation.

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I am going to write a slightly long comment to share my experience as a once BJP supporter and now active opposer of them. I hope some of you would read it. 

The biggest robbery BJP has done so far is to rob the freedom of the andhbhakts. They have their intellect compromised .They are incapable of criticizing BJP. The party has succeeded in making foot soldiers for free of cost who would work to bully others who question corruption. 

This has never been the case before. Whenever some scam used to come out, the whole public irrespective of party affiliations would signal their protest against the government. 

I myself supported BJP for 18yrs. I used to bunk school in election counting days hoping for BJP victory. And I have seen Vajpayee become PM .But I was not a stooge of the party. Nation first. And in demonitization I have seen how evil BJP was. From that time I have been against BJP and its myriad ways of destroying the very country and its institutions. 

In the last 9yrs of active and passive opposition to BJP, this is what I have understood of the bhakts. It is futile to argue with them or hope for changing them. Their brains are slaves to BJP.  And BJP ensures that they remain that way by peddling lies, mocking opposition, bombarding them with convincing lies through news, posters, movies, social media through their IT cell. They spend thousands lf crores to maintain an image, to brainwash people continuously. 

And that should give a clue to what BJP is afraid of the most - they are afraid of questions, they are afraid of logic, they are afraid of truth, and rationality. They are afraid of accountability. And those are the things people should keep doing it. Just ignore the trolls and bhakts .Half of them are paid to do it. The loudness is there for people to feel despair , that opposition does not matter. that it is a lost cause. And that is what we should defy. Speak out. Even if we are the only ones speaking. But we are not the only ones. There are crores of them who see through the lies and corruption of BJP . That is our duty to the country, and to the people ( including bhakts) . We owe it to the freefom fighters who sacrificed their lives for the freedom and country we have.

I am sharing below a speech by Ravish Kumar I happened to watch in person in the auditorium. It was the early years of the brainrot of BJP, so people where afraid to question. I hope you be inspired to speak the truth, just as I was. 

https://youtu.be/Ri1YKfe4vmo?si=k3sxiNs13O9Pbk82

decipher_42

Unless people resist - India will be entering dark ages

We took democracy for granted

Indira tried once and people showed her country is more important than her

India is and has been in an undeclared emergency for the last 10 years


Country is more important - even if you are a BJP supporter - please think about your country

Life_Machine_9694

When I talk to my sanghi friends, they are not fans of democracy. They see that as the reason why India is being outshined by China. They want a strong leader who cannot be opposed. One who can get things done. They see A&amp;A as the vehicles to get things done. They dont see it as oligarchy where the superrich control the politicians, media. law and narrative. They are fine with one rich dad kidnapping wild animals from across the country to build a private zoo for his kid because they are adding billions to the GDP. 

The need for accountability, trust and truth is long gone. They are happy to be fed with hatred. They are happy not to question the govt. They are happy to look like fools justifying the govt. We are truly in dark ages.

britolaf

These supporters of BJP don’t believe in democracy anyway, they openly talk about dictatorship being the best solution for India’s problems.

Annual-Anteater503

It might sound harsh, but the uncomfortable truth is that for most of history, India as one unified nation never truly existed, we’ve been a collection of kingdoms, regions, and identities bound together relatively recently. This isn’t to justify the current decay, but it does help explain why our Union model feels so fragile today.

The way our system is designed with the Lok Sabha elections concentrating so much power at the center actually fuels this kind of rot. When all political stakes and rewards are centralized, it incentivizes people to think in terms of “winning the center” rather than protecting the nation’s democratic health.

That’s why many don’t care if the process is corrupted as long as their “side” benefits. For them, “India” is not an ideal to preserve; it’s just a vehicle for their group’s dominance. This is the danger of a flawed union model combined with deep social divisions: people invest their loyalty in cults, parties, or regional identities, not in the nation itself. And once that happens, national interest becomes negotiable or disposable.

mulberrica

&gt; This can be seen in the fact that these people do not think twice before supporting billionaires, scamsters, rapists, or molesters — if that suits the interests of their cult, which they call a political party, but which at this point is a cult.

This is all because of the insecurity of Indians who want their favorable Rajas to rule over them. Indians love to bow down to authorities, and therefore desire to be authorities later themselves. That is why they give up power to strongman leaders so easily, even when that is only an act, a propaganda, and they don't have the capability to bring any greatness to India.

In that scene in *The Avengers* where Loki makes everyone kneel before him and asks "Is this not your natural state?", if Indians were in the crowd they'd have replied "Yes sir, you are totally correct sir!" in chorus. As long as this mindset remains, India will continue going down the drain and will become the next Russia, Israel, or Iran.

El_Impresionante

There are two things happening in your country. One is as you said and another genuine Indians communities that may not be voting for BJP being removed from voting list

SeparateRise7783

Mysterious_Cup_6024

Yup even tho I love my mom she's also kinda like this, she's denying it outright tho

Huge-Tough2877

av8_navg8_communic8

I was looking at how Chief Election Commissioner is appointed, and saw that it is by a panel of three - PM, LOP, and Union Cabinet minister.

With this form of appointment, it is obvious that CEC is most likely subservient to ruling party because of 2/3 voting.

Now, I want to understand how was it before? Anyone have sources on how CEC was appointed during 90s, 2000s ?

QuarterLifeSins

1) Bhakts are so concerned with being a part of the winning group that most are celebrating, have read comments all across social media suggesting that if this helps keeping BJP in power so be it. 

2) Why are we shocked? These guys tried to steal a mayoral election right under the eyes of a CCTV, if they can go this far for a mayoral election what would they do for LS elections is not a mystery

3) For a long time I refused to entertain INC’s charges but their demands have been fair and EC’s conduct shady as fuck, if they are so pure they should submit proof and shut up everyone else. 

4) We all know how BJP has used IT, ED, CBI, Judiciary, Media as their political arm not far fetched to think that they will do the same with the most important ECI

5) In 2024 BJP and allies were decimated in Maharashtra, what happened in 6months that the mood changed so drastically, nothing adds up

juancorleone

This is a pivital moment: same people who care about democracy have a choice: stand up to protect it no matter the personal costs or lament its demise as the fascists destroy the country. 

charavaka

The point where you mention their presence everywhere is the most concerning one... Ambedkar did say democracy won't work in India. The day isn't far when the minorities are treated like Palestinians by Israel.
I also want to say, education is the only cure of this disease that BJP is spreading.

SnooCrickets744

These are scary times. As a tax payer in 95th income percentile I no longer feel like I'm contributing towards the country's success. 

I get nothing for the money that's taken away from my salary before it even hits my account. I feel like I'm paying the gangers some protection money to leave me alone. Dare I say anything, my life which feels like a house of cards these days would come crumbling down. The tax payers are silent and oppressed and the most powerless minority. 

When we get screwed, none of us even have the time or the courage to take our discontent to the streets in the form of protests, because we might have our lives turned upside down. If I decide to protest and the government decides to throw me in jail, my family and I are screwed. My career is screwed. Nobody will hire me. I'll lose my home as I can't afford the emi. That's the case for every white collar worker in this country.

Don't ask for roads, don't ask for affordable and decent public travel, don't ask for world class government funded education for that 2% cess you pay on top of the income tax, don't ask for the best treatments in a government hospital, don't expect justice when you get killed on the road, don't even think of looking at anyone remotely related to the government in a funny way. 

Mere existence of these services at the worst possible quality deserves a pat on the governments back day and night by the sell out media houses.

The standards for what India could and should be have been brought down so much that our dreams for the future can't even compete with other poor countries with a similar gdp per capita. It's sad that we as a country have nothing to look forward to. We're going to be left behind when the history of human progress is traced back a century later. We'll be a case study of a failed state if things don't change soon. Every single agency is rotten with corruption. Look at the bridges falling do you think these are one off cases? What if none of the infrastructure gets serviced? Money is allocated but not used for the right thing? How long will your bike run without maintenance? A year? Two years? These are gigantic yet fragile pieces of public use infrastructure, they need regular upkeep.

It's frustrating and scary to think that one government was able to achieve such despair in 10 years. It took 10 years to wipe out the culture of India that evolved over 62 years after independence. We were already on a path to become vishwaguru before this government screwed it all up. Yoga had gained so much respect across the world even before the cheap and fast internet. Indians were considered smart, and were treated with respect, now they were seen as dirty and nuisance creators all because of this wrong mindset propagated by a few idiots.

And all this for what? To take us back to the dark ages? Seriously? Anyone who could get an out from India would consider themselves as lucky. The rich ones who can make it happen with money are already leaving, heck even the ministers' kids are surrendering ing Indian citizenship. And why blame them? They're just doing what most of us want, they're just lucky enough to afford it.

That's my rant for today fellow Indians. Hope we can all collectively turn this shit show around and get back on the track of science and development. And creating a better future together.

jercastic

When congress was accused of corruption, we all were furious, the accusation was enough to be angry. It was found, investigated and broadcast by media. So much so that they lost.

Bjp learnt that beforehand. Modi in an interview on gujurat riots said, "the only thing I could have done better, is to handle the media better.".
That's the first thing bjp did after their win. They took over every form of media, as quickly as possible, using any means necessary.

Most Indians were media trusting at the time, hence their hate for congress, including with paid media, they all made modi a grand figure. That's what hate does. They took full advantage of our innocent emotions.

They kept the media at hand, and kept thrashing rahul as a joke for years, using memes and his own videos. On the other hand, modi also made idiotic comments, worse than rshul, but congress didn't understand the power of social media at the time and couldn't ride on it cell control.

Those with some intellect were able to see through, but most aren't. Hence, they, and the next gen under them were raised into a brainwashed society. 

No matter how much we think right, truth is, they have power, influence, money, and support. Congress, who has proven and blotted image of corruption,  could never match such following, no matter what.

Psychological-Art131

I think democracy in India is cooked under modi. If this continues, we will become like china. Authoritarian. No services for the people, only trouble. The rich capitalist will win all projects and earn a ton of money, while we work for them for peanuts. 
Truly a wakeup call.

KatAsh_In

There's no need for us to give a F to andhbhakts. They can stay in their cult where they can act like fake nationalists, pseudo intellectuals &amp; overall dumb a-holes. This group is hardly 25-30%.

Who actually matter are the swing voters who based on yesterday's report didn't give a 3rd chance to Mudi in 2024 (probably a 2nd chance in 2019 even who knows) and sided with the Left while voting. This is around 60% (see voter percentage for INDIA).

azaadi101

"These people" always existed and BJP is just their projection and consolidation (not the other way round). They are among those who have been beneficiary of the caste based hierarchical extractive society where marginalized are exploited. Obviously they would prefer to strengthen such system through their now well machined political system.

[deleted]

I'm asking this out of curiosity and seriously. Is it really possible that the election commission has committed fraud of this magnitude? If they did, how are they keeping it a secret? Surely somebody would leak it to the media?

Naansense23

Ok_Research1025

Where can I get all the info about how this election fraud happened? Please suggest good articles or videos. Thanks

Its fine to be an andhbhakt. You do you! Free country. The bigger rot in our country is the lack of accountability from people who should hold governments accountable - the media and the judiciary! The judiciary will sporadically wake up and do something, but the media’s downfall in our country is, I think, worse than the Emergency.

Visible-Buddy6426

Well written. India has been ruined by BJ Party and Bhakts. Good luck. Staying where I’m.

almost_dubaid

They don't have that much support, what we are seeing is an illusion of majority support manufactured by bots, paid IT cells, and a media landscape they practically own.

Mayor_McCheese7

Regardless, every Indian, regardless of political affiliation, should demand better voter list management. That list looks shit, that's how we identify people for an election?

mand00s

To make things worse: Two major national parties doing politics based on Religion and Caste. Local parties trying to thrive based on Language. I have never seen this country so divided in the last few decades now as it is.

frankenstein-007

U could write UC instead of "these ppl"..

Sad-Engineer4826

Bhakts brains have been made captive to bjp. They'd sacrifice their own children to satisfy moglis lust for power

starp15

Direct action. 

Call out your boss. Call out your Sanghi colleagues, your Sanghi father and spouses. 

Humiliate them. They were afraid to voice things they say loudly now back in 2002-2005 era.

Ascetic_Acid

If we ever see INC government at the centre, these opportunist nationalists will resurface like they did during 2011-14. This is the power of RSS machinery. They have put their agents everywhere- directors of universities, bureaucrats, governors, actors, journalists, researchers. BJPee is world's largest political party for a reason (&gt;20 crore direct members). Nearly 1 in 7 Indians are directly linked with the BJPee, and many more align with its ideology indirectly

sharedevaaste

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This book will explain the rot

SaucySamurai959

Andhbhakto… hindu khatre Mai nahi, democracy khatre mai hai

Confident_Piglet_112

Some day if bjp lose power ,these andhabhaks gone create violence one the basis of religion etc.n will create riots here n there,becoz they are brainwashed on the basis of religion n akhand bharat,hindhi,hindhutva rashtra,sanadhana dharmam,gomatha, language etc.I fear this the most. I wish citizen understand bjp lead by vajpayee is different n modi n amithsha is different.RSS ,Bajrangdal these guys should be noted.
No govt should be given a second chance, behaving like narcissists.




Note without strong opposition party or leaders democracy is of no use.

unknowinglyknown96

We atleast need a strong opposition , 

Congress should move away from Gandhi Family and replace it with mature and better leaders like Shashi Tharoor who is atleast competent. 

The people's vote is going to be with congress if this happens.

Middle_Degree_4138

I agree with OP. People have completely lost their critical thinking in the entire nation. They don’t understand that Hindu khatre mai nahi hai, democracy khatre mai hai

That's the very reason they are called "andhbhakts". Their  mind stops working beyond their selfishness and inconsideration towards other humans in the society.

_HuMaNiSeD_

I am certain of it now : in a FREE and FAIR election, BJP would have won 180 seats

MayofKent

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Also for general knowledge:

Yeah we need the install mamta Banerjee the oG BENGALI

Ok-Cry-1589

They are of the notion that RaGa hasn't taken the oath, hasn't filed the affidavit, etc etc etc. So they assume RaGa is bluffing. Maybe this time, if RaGa has legit proof, he should go ahead with whatever these ppl ask of him keeping his ego aside. If true, this is a huge W for him.

And RaGa not doing the aforementioned, will only solidify their notion than RaGa is bluffing.

__sheesh___

Impressive_Will1186

So be it. Why cant it be delightful to see another party upped the tactics that one party was repeatedly using and claimed it was the peoples mandate? . 

The party has realised that its own doings are back firing, someone else got better at it, and so its better we attempt to expose and pretend to clean it. 

Every honest voter has been screaming about the bogus voter rolls and its lack of credibility, so its not at all an OMG realisation and, STOP pretending these ( the tactics) are new. 

While the numbers could be true, what is surprising and not evident is

- assuming all the winning votes are because of these votes - implying all the invalid voters voted, ANDvfor the winning party only. 

- this list was available to all party offices and party workers. 
In their campaign they knew who was genuine, who isnt. How did they allow multiple votings and voting by people without proper addresses? they were silent all the while because or hoping these efforts will  (continue to) swing in their favour? 

they are now screaming because someone copied their tactics, or they lost favour of these once their bogus voters?

haridavk

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Business-Worry-6800

Stop gaslighting people, not one shred of proof has been given about EC fraud. Just random statements about some missing voters or added voters without any proof. Don't put words in people's mouths. People don't clearly know there has been election fraud when there hasn't been. Honestly you sound like Trump.

pm_me_tittiesaurus

You must be youngish. When I was young, everything that you described was what I saw with Congress. Politics is cyclical. This will end and new rule will come. People will change loyalty and start believing in new values.

sg291188

As an Indian, I am for a citizenship number.

1. Start implementation of newborns getting a citizenship number.

2. Existing people prove citizenship and get a citizenship number.

There are too many people with too many identities- PAN, AAdhar, etc, etc.

Just implement a proper citizenship identity card. Most countries have it. If Indian’s move abroad, they have no issue with an identity card. An identity card in India is a big No-NO?

SlowTax1136

I have seen Rahul Gandhi lie and cheat and spread venom and show double standards so many times that I don't believe anything he says. 


He always looks down on Indians as the way a white person colonizer looks down upon native people. 


I don't even support the BJP maharashtra govt and wish uddhav theckeray had won. But I don't believe anything that Rahul says. I don't think his personal interests align with Indian interests. 

So while I would take notice if someone with a solid reputation makes the same claim, I am not buying this narrative coming from rashtriy pappu.

faraw6363

Slim_Zeus0

Trump gets angey at modi 24 hrs later congres starts vote fraud campaign. 

The timing is suspicious, keep a eye out for any large riots because of this , it's likely paid events by usa

fan_of_skooma


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The previous law only protected security of tenure and allowed removal by impeachment, it is not the same as immunity from legal liability for all official acts.  
There was no legal immunity from legal proceedings before 2023 law.

And yes the 2023 law only provide CECs **immunity from civil/criminal cases for official acts**. But whatever manipulation Gyanesh kumar is doing is through official work? If he has done something wrong how can he get tried in court.

You are the one misleading people here

Mashed_Potato123

maybe congress leadership has changed

maybe back then congress was as bad as bjp now, so they made these laws. and thats why they voted for bjp 

and then also, what DO you suggest? the congress has no other options. WE have no other options

you are right. WE have lost all hopes for congress to win an election democratically due to brain dead right wing and vote chori

maybe we should protest gen-z nepali style

StatisticianThin288

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NoGodsNoMastersOOO

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Forsakenopinion1937

“Somehow, people always forget that it’s much easier to install a dictator than to remove one.”

— Garry Kasparov

find_a_rare_uuid

In any decently run country, this law that helps the govt handpick the CEC and also provide immunity from legal action would be treated as evidence of political conspiracy to commit election fraud. It is crazy that it is still not talked about that way.

Juvegamer23

AFAIK, Rahul Gandhi tried to approach the courts, but they were busy drafting the Cleanchit^TM for Vantara.

SuccessfulYam123

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type shit

adainewiz

&gt;16. The Chief Election Commissioner, Election Commissioner, Regional Election
Commissioner, officers and other employees of the Election Commission shall be deemed,
when acting or purporting to act in pursuance of any of the provisions of this Act, to be
public servants within the meaning of section 21 of the Indian Penal Code.
17. With effect from the date of this Act coming into force, no civil court shall have
jurisdiction to entertain any suit, petition or appeal in respect of any order or decision of the
Election Commission

Damn didn't know this

Theta-Chad_99

Everyone saw it coming after his first vote chori allegation, the BJP allegedly made EC invincible so nobody dared to ask and today we are all just stuck

Chaiwala_69_

“Institutions become political weapons, wielded forcefully by those who control them against those who do not. This is how elected autocrats subvert democracy—packing and “weaponizing” the courts and other neutral agencies, buying off the media and the private sector (or bullying them into silence), and rewriting the rules of politics to tilt the playing field against opponents. The tragic paradox of the electoral route to authoritarianism is that democracy’s assassins use the very institutions of democracy—gradually, subtly, and even legally—to kill it.”

― Steven Levitskey, Daniel Ziblatt, How Democracies Die: What History Reveals About Our Future

In addition, there is absolutely nothing wrong in going to the press to expose scams.  

People who are used to godi media lining up to fellate the supreme leader won't get it, but throughout the democratic world the press is used to break news about the government's shenanigans.  

When the Bofors scandal broke, no one told Chitra Subramaniam and N Ram "oh, go file an FIR in Adyar police station, or shut your mouth."

aveihs56m

Thanos_50

So basically, EC is an all powerful entity that can't be held accountable by anyone ?

How is this legal ?

SpecificRound1

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The official clause, for your reference. Keep sleeping, India.

sphereofblaze

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ShiningWater

Didn't knew about Uniform Criminal Code. We would need a detailed post on that.

kaisadusht

Ok-Procedure-1272

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when this law repealed and one day it will be, all these guys should be inside for treason.

dova_kinn

Going to court will be a political blunder. Especially, when all courts are occupied by sanghis and wait for a lengthy process. Also, you can’t speak about vote theft when the case is in court.

NumerousCrab7627

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ROC_K4LP

TF? so this is the whole game of Modi-BJP and how they steal elections? From what I heard in Whatsapp university, that they also won the 2019 through same scam but since the EC officials were scared of prosecution, they brought this law in 2023.
It all makes sense now!!

ichi9

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Beautiful-Patient794

So if the EC commissioner murders the opposition leaders, will they still be not put to trial?

alimhabidi

Kya farak padhta hai mei toh Andhbhakt hu 🥰

PotentialMeet1782

No No

This is a bit misleading, the law was for Official acts and not acts done outside the purview of official duties (like perpetrating fake votes can never be an official act, thus can be challenged).

So, I guess A to Z saari parties mil k humara chutiya hi kaat rhi hain bc.

Bitter-Farm-9058

Why only congress kerala posts smart stuff like this.

rohithkumarsp

WidePerspective454

Need some details, which uniform criminal code was there since 1862 and was removed?

Agreeable-Umpire7262

crizes1

I understand that a case against the CEC cannot be filed but ECI ke against to kar hi sakte hai na case

Redittor_53

needawomanbysoul

https://www.reddit.com/r/CriticalThinkingIndia/s/K4Bsuvhj8x

Chemical_Remove5115

Manniye Agami Pradhan Mantri Shree Rahul Gandhi Ji.

vochatnemeexpert

How can anyone just get above law like that .that bill had to be passed by both houses and approved by president.

Real-Blueberry-2126

Why go personal after ECI ..... Why not EC ? You can take EC to court.....

Ravi0916

Well if we had a working supreme court it will get the election commissioner’s ass when making absurd, criminal and illegal decisions because they were not ‘acting or  purporting to act under the act’ anyway. This is jurisdictional error doctrine and has been used to fix executive overreach in Australia and the UK.

Warm_Character_8890

In short summary of reply below -

Congress’s claim that Clause 16 of the 2023 EC Act prevents court action is completely wrong. The clause only protects the CEC and ECs personally, not their decisions from judicial review. Courts have historically overturned EC decisions when illegal, arbitrary, or unconstitutional—like in Kihoto Hollohan (1992) and Indira Gandhi v. Raj Narain (1975). Using this clause as an excuse to avoid legal action is legally baseless and politically evasive.

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Full response with instances from past 

The Congress claim that Clause 16 of the Chief Election Commissioner and Other Election Commissioners (Appointment, Conditions of Service and Term of Office) Act, 2023 prevents judicial recourse is fundamentally incorrect, both legally and constitutionally.
1.	Scope of Clause 16
	  - Clause 16 provides personal immunity to the Chief Election Commissioner (CEC) and Election Commissioners (ECs) for decisions taken in the course of official duties.
	- 	This immunity does not extend to the legality or validity of the decisions themselves. Judicial review under Articles 32 and 226 of the Constitution remains fully applicable.
2.	Judicial Review vs Personal Immunity
	-	Courts have consistently held that statutory immunity protects the officeholder personally but does not immunize the office from scrutiny.
	-	In Kihoto Hollohan v. Zachillhu (1992), the Supreme Court affirmed that the actions of constitutional and statutory authorities are reviewable if they are malafide, arbitrary, or unconstitutional, irrespective of any personal immunity.
	-	Similarly, in Indira Gandhi v. Raj Narain (1975), the court invalidated election outcomes even though the EC and officials were performing their statutory duties, showing that legality of decisions is always subject to judicial oversight.
3.	Historical Precedents Where Action Was Taken
	-	JDS vs EC (Karnataka 2008): Court intervened to examine EC decisions on disqualification of legislators.
	-	Allahabad High Court, 1975: EC’s scrutiny of nominations and disqualifications was fully reviewable.
	-	2019 General Elections: The Supreme Court entertained petitions against alleged electoral malpractices, affirming that decisions of the EC can be challenged if evidence exists.


Thus is is quite evident that

	-     Clause 16 cannot and does not bar legitimate legal action.
	-	The Congress reliance on this clause is an attempt to evade judicial scrutiny, not a substantive legal defense.
	-	Any responsible democratic party must challenge alleged irregularities in court, not hide behind misinterpreted immunities.

spice--cream

First a question, then my 2 cents on the rest:

1. What is meant by BJP removed UCC? We never had UCC except in certain states AFAIK. Someone please correct/inform me on this. 

2. The law about giving EC immunity in practice is ripe for abuse and lack of accountability based purely on what is in this post. If there is some other method of accountability for any crimes or abuses committed by EC not mentioned here (eg: impeachment like for President or SC), then I actually support that since it prevents intimidation and blackmail of the EC by anyone who says do what I tell you or I will send you to jail for "reason I just made up and fabricated proof for".

For real crimes that's what impeachment would be for (provided a provision for it exists - if it doesn't, this law should be struck down).

Government should in turn be held accountable to not give illegal orders to EC by
1. Free press (*cries in Indian "journalism"*) 
2. Anti corruption watchdogs
3. Citizen activism
4. Independent EC - the real concern is that currently government has massive sway over appointment of EC of their choice

Imo opposition and citizen activists should focus on pressuring the government to implement and improve these 4 steps rather than the immunity law itself - which in India seems to be a good idea in theory and a bad idea in practice. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be implemented at all, but that we should look to create conditions in India where it's also practical.

Rahul Gandhi's current Vote Chori campaign overall seems to be a good step in the direction of holding government and EC accountable but not sure about this particular approach.

Slaanesh_69

Wtf make noise about this issue more then. RG could've easily added it to the Press Conference.

Alarming_Echo_4748

Nepali sweets coming for all motu patlus and their kids.

TootaFoota

This is just a lie by congress. Election commissioner was always considered independent. But be it him or president of india, they can always be impeached by the parliament.

Congress can go to court against election commission. But they arent going because they have no evidence for their lies on vote chori. Now they are lying again to say that they cant go to court



Out of crores of voters, there will be some less than 1% clerical errors. This is cherry picking logical fallacy. Also some of Rahul's claims are outright lies. Press conference is fine, but he should submit proofs to ECI or to courts.

In fact now in Bihar election commission is doing verification of voter list, but his party and other leftist parties are opposing it because they want bangladeshis and rohingyas to vote in elections. They have problem with duplication also, problem with deletion of duplication too

Critifin

Why doesn't he put it on oath whatever he's saying then ?

Rare_Turnover_420

Fuckers.It's just plain lie, except for during the processes of election (campaign, voting, counting, results) anyone can file a case on ECI, anytime they want. Refer article 329(b). Of the the Indian constitution.

Expose wrongdoing, but don't spread your INC propaganda

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