The public sentiment towards the recent US-India arms deal is predominantly critical and skeptical. Many commenters express distrust in the US as a reliable defense partner, referencing historical grievances and questioning the strategic implications of this agreement. Concerns about India's dependency on US military support and the potential economic fallout are significant, with several voices urging for a more independent and balanced foreign policy.

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Any rational observer would have said that the temporary blip in public relations and statements between India and the US were due to trade and tariffs issues, the former's reluctance to adopt a more active anti-China front and the whole Russian oil conundrum, which coincided with the Pakistani Junta rolling out the red carpet for minerals, bribing the Trump admin and family (the whole crypto scam), agreeing to be part of US-Israeli plans for Gaza; and engaging in unprecedented levels of flattery of Trump himself.


It had nothing to do with whatever Munir's supporters or various Sharif sycophants were peddling.


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BlandBiryani

PMLUN right now. Sir I want to salute you 🤣

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Cold_Flow6175

Where are all the pmln people, shouting India one of the top growing economies in the world now stand alone?? Thanks to showbaz we are not the center of asia. I did not see modi sucking upto trump no saaar noooo.

[deleted]

Where does this leave Asim Munir ball lickers?

No_Public_7677

India gets defence and trade pacts, Pakistan gets ”my good fried Field Warshall”. Yet the patwar clowns are clapping how they are truly winning. Duffers be duffering since 1947. Aik aur noble peace prize k liay bhi nominate kardo ghulamon.

LahoriDreamss

Hamary pm sahib or coaf  tareefen kr kr k thak gaye or deals apny puranny ally k sath.

_abubakar

Bhai, bade logon ki ladai aur dosti ke khel mein hum jaise Indians aur aap jaise Pakistani jaan gawan dete hai.

JasonElegant

This is not a defence pact. It's a renewal of a previous agreement signed in 2015 related to technical support, info sharing, exercises, etc

V9sp

Where is the boot polisher and saluting showbaz sharif ?

Spiritual-Elk-4144

Trump k bhe sahi maze hai, TC (punjabi wali) krwany k liy Asim Munir and Shehbaz Shariff aur defense pact k liy Modi Ji. Lakin PML-Netanyahu aur Asim kh*nz**r k supporters k hisab se Shehbaz aur Asim Munir ki foreign policy ne India ko puri dunia mai akela kr dia hai.

under_stress274

Any rational observer would say that this is how international politics worked. 

India was not doing what US wanted, they forged closer ties with Pakistan, Pakistan welcomed and tried to enhance ties with its largest export partner. India itself tried to mend some bridges with China but ultimately pivoted hard back to US, their natural ally in the region.

Ill_Help_9560

The us in it's current form is incredibly selfish and short sighted. 
Pakistan needs to negotiate a deal with India where all current lines of control are accepted by both parties. They can concentrate on peace instead

OpportunityFuture340

hahahahahahhahaha started war with afganistan, killed own citizens, ran to normalize with the zionists.

Shoddy-Reach9232

So in simple terms, US was like a college stud trying to make his ex jealous and win her back by dating her rival. Trump admins foreign policy is like stupid romcom movies.

AmBoD

This is signed every 10 years. India is a huge market for American weapons and the Tejas has GE engines in them.

actionmunda

When the middle east is tying up with Pakistan, Here comes America playing a chess on his own, Maintaining relationship with Pakistan, praising Field Marshal and Compromised setup every now and then &amp; at the same time degrading India &amp; also signing a defense agreement. This is Trump Chess for you.

Worldly_Kick_5296

Far_Sir_8031

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Where is saluting boot licker show-baz sharif ?

Ab Kare Shalwar Shareef Trump Ki Tarifen😄

Easy-River-7358

imagine falling for the US time and time again

at some point you have to look over if you need a better ally

trydola

Nothing unexpected and something everyone already knows about

AccordingPeach5211

ComplexTell25

Waiting for China vs Bharat war. That is the only reason this pact signed

PossibleGazelle519

Calling this a defence pact is a stretch. The US will never come to India's defence and vice versa.

BallyBoy1856

But indians ab kis munh se isi Trump k chukkyn gy jisko last 6.months ae Gaaliyan de rhy thy??? 😂

caffiinatedbro

Gosh it's Terrifying what cult following can do to your brain. Irredeemable folk. Can't even talk without abuses. Oral Piles.

Kink_Drowned

These treaties mean nothing. Just ask Qatar.

wildcard5

It's not a pact, it's a framework in hegseths own tweet.

NicotineForeva

It’s a defence “framework”, not “pact”. And with an expiry date too. The same as trump’s trade deals. .😁

piscator111

SS: In his Force Magazine podcast, Pravin Sawhney argues that renewing the India–US Defence Framework until 2035 is a strategic blunder that harms India rather than helping it. He contends that Washington’s shift from military “dominance” to merely maintaining a “balance of power” in the Asia-Pacific marks a decline in U.S. capability, especially against a technologically and industrially superior China. Sawhney explains that while India once sought a strategic role as a military bulwark in the Indian Ocean under the 2015 framework, the new geopolitical reality of 2025 -- where power is divided among the U.S., China, and Russia -- renders such alignment meaningless. Instead of waiting to assess President Trump’s second-term foreign policy, New Delhi rushed into deepening commitments like “Mission 500,” binding itself economically and militarily to the U.S. without technology transfer or strategic autonomy. Sawhney concludes that India’s renewed defence pact reflects “laziness and lack of imagination,” reducing it to a vassal state rather than a leader of the Global South.

telephonecompany

Dear OP, Adm Gen PS keeps talking about multipolar world but forgets that apart from US and China, the country that, today, holds a large sway over international opinion and thereby pressure is India...and it is evident in the way Indian govt representatives have spoken about Indian priorities and role all across the world. At the same time, India also faces multiple challenges at its rise in the world. However, the Adm Gen is still stuck in his US-China-Russia centric world. So, in such a state, when there is flux, prior agreements between countries (especially in the context of Quad) may seem to get weak, but as long as intentions remain similar, the agreements can be revived. 

The CNP of a nation is a mix of its economic, military, diplomatic, historic and geographical potential. India only seeks to further its own CNP using realpolitik as per the ground situation, at it's disposal. So, if in that context, the Defense Agreement with US is extended for another 10 years, it does no harm to anybody and only opens certain engagement options for India. After all, we thawed with China, did we not !!! Classic realpolitik move !!

Modi is a realistic practical thinker and his utterances, prior and post Op Sindoor, have seen a distinct change in relation to US and Trump Administration. The Adm Gen's contention that Modi will stay true to his 'Mission 500' promise, without the US offering substantial returns, seems highly imaginative. I do agree, with his assessment of Sergio Gor's role in India and SA. Accepting an inexperienced non diplomatic business professional as an Ambassador and that too, with a dual role, when we are facing huge challenges in our neighbourhood, is a double edged sword !!

All in all, like always, the Adm Gen turns an objective analysis into a propaganda talk by his unrestrained 'affection' for China and all things Chinese !!

AbhayOye

Pravin Sahwney brags on X that his family has only ever voted for Congress since independence. He also thinks Rahul Gandhi is a strategic genius and that Pakistan was the winner in Operation Sindoor. He routinely praises not just Chinese but Pakistani capabilities as superior to India's.

And literally every article he's ever written in the last 11 years has been about how bad Modi and BJP are on defence. He's never praised even a single thing they've done - Not the Rafale deal, not the investments in Indian defence startups, not the drone, radar and anti-aircraft capabilities revealed during operation Sindoor, not the missile programs, not the artillery, literally nothing. And back when he started his Farce(Force) magazine in 2003 he spent its first year shitting on Vajpayee and George Fernandes.


He's a Congi spokesperson and Nehru-Gandhi loyalist masquerading as a defence expert. His entire gimmick is posting daily youtube videos picking holes in literally everything this government does.

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You want quality defence commentary? There are tons of retired army officers doing it, some are actually involved in think tanks and have written for international publications, like Lt Gen HS Panag and Col Ajai Shukla. But not this guy because he's politically compromised.

casualphilosopher1

I blog on Indian national security and my sense is India's establishment is stunned.  
It's little comfort that it's a stunning reversal of US relations with a lot of countries, not just India. Basic tenets of foreign policy are to assume that both sides are rational and that cooperation is better than an adversarial relationship. Even when there's a leader who does not understand diplomacy, one hoped that a professional team would guide the President, which does not seem to be happening.

Dean_46

It's reversal in US-everyone relations to be accurate. 

Fun-Corner-887

I don’t think the current administration of the US will have any meaningful and trustworthy relations. Not even their long time allies can trust them to not backstab them with tariffs or hidden suggestions of seizing land.

omnibossk

SS

Question - Why's Donald Trump turning on his ideological ally Narendra Modi?

Answer-

1. India was supposed to be America's frontman to fight China, but Trump's team don't really give a damn about that and don't really have a strategy for China. Indian diplomats who go to Washington these days just get fobbed off whenever they try to talk about how they're standing up to China. *“Don’t tell me what you’re doing for us on China. Tell me what you’re doing for us as America.”*

2. The weird thing is some of the Trump administration's messaging on China still says they don't want China to dominate and want to counter it. And yet they're shitting on all the countries they need to help with that. So they don't know what they're doing.

3. Trump doesn't give a damn about Pakistan, they just buttered him up and greased up his family businesses so he's giving them a little something in return.

4. Modi should have probably given Trump some credit for the ceasefire between India and Pakistan. He tried to tell Trump he couldn't do that in public because it'd hurt his image at home. Trump didn't care and India got 50% tariffs. The Russian oil's just an excuse, Trump hit India because he thinks they can't hit back like China can, and... well, he's right.

5. The Indians got cocky, thought Trump 2.0 would be like Trump 1.0(and Trump 1.0 actually helped them with intel against China in the 2020 border clash) and now US-India relations are at the lowest since the 1990s.

6. Tariffs, H1B visas etc. are all gonna be a big economic hit for India. Officially it'll cut GDP growth by 1% but it could get much worse than that and it's bad for Modi's ratings at home.

7. Indian diaspora in America hasn't said anything about how badly Trump's been treating India, Democrats haven't either. It's mostly crickets. But India's own right-wing media(who used to like Trump) have been breathing fire.

8. Indians used to think Democrats didn't like India and a Republican President would be better for relations. Trump's cleared that up and now Indian diplomats are thinking about how great they had it under Biden. Now they don't even have anyone to talk to on the American side because Trump's people won't even pick up their calls.

This will be studied by a lot of game theorists in the future. 

PMSwaha

All the time, money, and geopolitical alliance down the drain, what are we doing?

Severe_Science9309

My initial reaction was, has it reversed again. Once its passed 6 month, we are in a separate news cycle, it should really be referred to in past tense. 

Magicalsandwichpress

The funny thing is, I bet Modi and his supporters were hoping for a Trump win in 2024. Things don’t really seem to be working out how they imagined it, though.

jogarz

Outside of India, no one thinks about India.

This is only stunning to Indians trying to get out of India. 

Both US and Canada are shutting their doors.

Evilbred

I haven't read the article, but I think people are overstating this. Both countries know they are necessary partners at some level due to China and maintaining a stable Pakistan. Trade was never huge and there will continue to be networks between the private sectors and diaspora in the US. 

In my opinion, I think it mostly comes down to the personalities of the two guys leading these countries. They don't mesh and never will.

VitaNueva

The stunning reversal displays the failure of India’s Non-Alignment policy in the aftermath of the Russia Ukraine war. India has relied on Russia as its primary weapons supplier for decades, however Russia does not have the capability to produce enough weapons to sustain a war of attrition with Ukraine and also supply India the quantity of weapons India needs to defend its vast borders. Moreover India does not have the capability to produce the quality and quantity of weapons it requires to defend itself against its neighbors like China. India’s main enemy Pakistan has the major advantage of being backed by 2 of the largest weapons manufacturers in the world US &amp; China. So in the case of a prolonged conflict with India, Pakistan will have the advantage of continuously being supplied with top of the line weapons from both US &amp; China while India’s fighting capabilities will keep on degrading over time. Pakistan has also found an ally in Saudi Arabia, so India’s energy supplies are also prone to major disruptions during a conflict with Pakistan. This is possibly the worst place India has been in decades, surrounded by powerful enemies on 3 sides and no allies internationally. India’s attempts at getting close with China is just an invitation for being backstabbed in the future akin to the 1961 war between the 2 nations.
Best thing India can do right now is to create a whole new branch of armed forces, Indian Marines and model it fully on the US Marines. Make huge weapons deals with the Trump administration to fully equip the new branch with American hardware. From assault rifles to possibly HIMARS and even F-16s. This will give US manufacturers access to the India’s defense sector and a monopoly to bid for lucrative contracts with the newly formed branch of Indian military, India gets a whole new branch of military equipped with US hardware while retaining its traditional suppliers like Russia, Israel &amp; France. It can also give India a certain degree of diplomatic support from the US and the US military industrial complex gets a whole new market. Yes in a way India will be paying its way out of the sticky situation it is in right now but India has no other options and Trump administrations is the only administration that can get onboard with such plan and take decisive  actions that benefit the US weapons manufacturers quickly enough to give India the much needed security it needs from China &amp; Pakistan. The framework for such a deal can be negotiated as a part of the tariff negotiations ongoing between US &amp; India which also allows both sides an avenue to come to a mutually beneficial agreement without loosing face or further escalating the situation.

anonymousNetizen5

Indian bhakts are now threatening US and Pak with terrorist attacks via BLA

izigo

He is an unstable fellow I doubt any of the polices he has been making will last after his term.

Wishful thinking. All American megs corps are heavily invested in India and show no signs of slowing down. Pakistan doesn't even show up in their drop-down list. Be real. Trump isn't going to change Pakistan or India.

Gohab2001

Khuda ke waste bases na deden, ya doosre musalmanon ke khilaaf jung man shamil na hojaen

salambhatti

India: standing with its small farmers, refusing to sign a trade deal which threatens its food security.
Pakistan: gives its sovereignty, its critical resources and its dignity to Trump on a platter, just to keep Imran Khan in jail.

It’s a day of shame, not celebration.

Different_Bed8183

IkramAli007

I'm Indian (and you can downvote, if you don't agree) but believe me this only affects them (American Consumer pays more &amp; not Indian). especially don't believe in a creature like this clown. India is among the fastest going major economies and believe me or not these (whites) can't see any other race prosper so they play such tactics. Will screenshot this comment and post on reddit 5 years from now. You'll see what I said is not bs.

sloppy-acid

Yayy opportunity for sab ki maa to buy more luxury cars

mhssmhdev

Trump is a grifter and everything that comes out of his mouth is lolipop for the public. Bet asim munir made a deal with him to make bs tweets and speeches to improve his image. US is not going to prioritize its ties with pakistan over india because theres they are worried about China and we are an ally of China. Every time republicans get in power they work with the faujis and weaken our civilian govt.

https://preview.redd.it/wkpuhuu8gfgf1.jpeg?width=1080&amp;format=pjpg&amp;auto=webp&amp;s=7579893397ccb7d25f0d1dd1b1f84a43ada4a3f7

Trump grifting during his first term

Medium_Storage3437

The deals Trump wants to make are predatory in nature. See the mineral deal with Ukraine, tariffs in EU Japan. It's too much for america and nothing for the another partner. DEALS do not work that way

Alarming-Piece-5836

Electronics,IT, and pharma are out of this tariff as know till know. With time, we will come to know what more sectors have been exempted. And in the end, it will come out to be just a tariff for anti orange tan creams😂😂. The man is a joker, just speaks shit but does nothing bold.

We have to play politics and do business.  


Trump is showman.  Businesses in the US is doing the same thing.  


When US cut ties with Nazi Germany.  US company owned german subsidieries simply remodelled themselves as independent/reich controlled business and continued till end of war. They they were returned to parent company after the war.  

Profits come first.

telaughingbuddha

Irony is he says this while he guts the American economy.

IronLyx

Why is orange baffoon so salty all the time

If indian economy is dead, and he does very little business with india, why does he wants to put tariffs? and why is he crying so much? modi is my friend, he's a great negotiator,india is a tough negotiator, we'll do a lot of business with them, i get along with all of them.. blah blah blah. ROFL.

Bendacar_Benatar

How do India respond?
Avoid the next quad
Get closer to China, I.e.trade off..Will support you in Taiwan, in return you'll support us with P@rk!s 
More trade and more investment...

Even if India takes these two steps, Asia is virtually shut off for US

Basically, USA has spent billions for Israel and this number will increase. Someone has to foot the bill

DocAbbz

So he is letting us buy Russian oil without sanctions but has to act like he is strong.  Good enough.

arkantosphan

So when you make deals with our enemy, it’s a strategy. But when we talk to yours, it’s betrayal? Classic Amrika.

Special_Gold5224

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Says the clown who has this as a statue in NYC.

Prestigious-Evening6

Can’t expect much who hung out with Epstein and who’s literally covering up for him today

Sean16178

I love how much modi fans were getting wet for Trump but now the leopards ate your face?

reptheanon

He will go back on his words just wait few days. 

He talk about our shit economy while an average American lives pay check to pay check and eats poison on daily basis while drinking tap water that turns frog gay in a country that runs by PDFs 😂 

We will be fine

Gla55_cannon

I just want to say, I’m American, and I do not have this outlook for India. I have no idea what Trump wants with this provocation.

armoman92

Ambanis Adanis Tatas and the billionaire classes of India are the East India Company 2.0

Specialist-Love1504

But saar modixi super doper foreign policy laser eyes supar master saar.

East India company has been formed by Ambani, Adani etc. 

Open markets will break the new India company. Tarrifs are good for India. We will be forced to become an open economy.

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ye iske tactics hai blackmail karne ki aur india par pressure bnane ki india divest to kar sakta hai lekin usko vo desh dondhne padhenge jinki purchasing power acchi ho taki vo US co compensate kar sake like south east asia japan newzeland europe south america

Congress won't, Rahul Gandhi is. Big difference. 

US-India relations won't be affected by Trump tweets irl. But we should stop relying on them for anything vital

I guess most of our people would like to leave a comment on his post saying
 "abey bhakk na madrchod" .. because that is exactly how irritating his tantrums are, just like my ex's mood swings.

Typical_Mountain_752

The mother of all bubbles is about to pop and they will blame everything on this guy…
He has been brought in as a scapegoat!
Keep calm and enjoy the show.
India not bending for anyone is the right path

ViniMav

The strategy is from Doland’s playbook - Fart of the Deal

Disastrous-Star-9588

I am not brilliant, but to support our country what we can really do??

AnxiousLadka

In a year us sanctions will be a joke. Elect a joker, expect world class jokes.

la_rattouille

The economy of the rest of the world is three times the economy of the US. Make trading agreements with the rest of the world.

Can we have a mega-thread on this topic, Please mods ?

Rather than just criticizing Trump, can we discuss our leverages and future-roadmap ?

1. We should lobby for electronics to be exempt from this (as this directly competes with China) and give relief to big-suppliers like Apple (Make in india image is important). And i have heard that its already exempt.
2. Why don't we import US Soya and add it to PDS ? Its cheap and Indians have the lowest protein consumption. Soya (Tofu) is a vegetarian alternative to Meat.
3. Our farmers are becoming a burden day-by-day. Are we supercharging the ITI program. The last policy was to train 2 million people over 5 years ? That's a drop in the bucket for a population of size 1500 million: [https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2127415](https://www.pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=2127415)
4. Lets not resort to mass-defamation campaign against Trump or Modi. Only we are to lose. China did not trash US presidents, it took their manufacturing business and let US proper in tech too.

coder_realtor

Trump is ensuring Republicans won’t win for next 20 years and no country will trust USA in future

nvgroups

All that Cocaine, Drugs are Finally showing their Effects.

DelBabe

Well India needs to take the right decisions at the right time or it will garner a lot of hate globally.

mindfreak2020

Trump is basically playing the market.  He announces tariffs and then the market drops because of that. He and his friends will buy up at low and then he will announce a “pause” in tariffs. And then they sell for profit. He has been doing it since January. Market is still falling for it.

Popular-Beach-4843

Kya farq padhta hai 
Vote for Trump 
Abki baar Trump sarkaar
Bhai pooja kab karni hai Trump ki ?
Hawan for Trump 
Marching for Trump 
.......



Just an Indian andhbhakt 😎

Bubbly-Cucumber1794

SnooCompliments8409

To be honest, we should distance ourselves from Russia for moral reasons, not because orange man asks us to. Putin is a blood thirsty murderer.

arjun_prs

Dont make it political in politics ? I am pretty sure countries like Pakistan are boot licking their way in Trump’s plans. But casting India aside like its nothing is a failure of diplomacy &amp; foreign policies. Get the highest civilian awards in 25 countries but can’t retaliate against bigger nations.

Background-Yam634

trump will be the reason for downfall of usa

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